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No Chinese tech giant or entrepreneur is beyond the reach of Xi Jinping.

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Chinese tech companies did a pretty good job convincing global investors that they operated independently from the Communist Party. Now, Jack Ma has become a case study for the firms’ biggest skeptics.


Companies from Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. to Tencent Holdings Ltd. splashed out billions on overseas acquisitions while developing apps and technologies that challenged Western rivals, with little or no state interference. But Beijing’s pursuit of Ma and his Ant Group Co. after he criticized regulators arguably plays directly into the hands of China’s biggest critics in Washington, who have long asserted that no Chinese tech giant or entrepreneur is beyond the reach of Xi Jinping.

U.S. authorities are now debating whether to ban investments in Alibaba and Tencent, according to people familiar with the matter, in what would be a dramatic blow to two of the companies whose shares are most widely held by global investors. Already on Tuesday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning transactions with eight Chinese software applications including Ant’s Alipay, and Tencent’s WeChat Pay, citing concerns that Beijing will have access to the data collected by the platforms. “I stand with President Trump’s commitment to protecting the privacy and security of Americans from threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party,” Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said in a statement on the order.

Beijing’s moves could raise pressure on the incoming Joe Biden administration to push through further action detrimental to China, though it’s not clear how much of Trump’s aggressive policies the president-elect will continue.

The party’s sway over business has become even clearer over the past 12 months as Xi pushes to consolidate power ahead of next year’s big party congress, when he’s expected to extend his rule for at least another five years. Covid-19 has only served to strengthen his grip, fueling a war-like campaign to steer the economy back on track and snuff out perceived threats to national security.

“You need to be very mindful of who ultimately controls regulations, who controls licensing -- of who’s in charge,” said Mark Natkin, managing director of Beijing-based Marbridge Consulting. “And if you forget and you start to be overly critical or take too much of a role that normally belongs to the party, then you’re going to get chopped down a notch or two.”

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Declining USA after Trump have to work harder to get the trust of the world.

Democrazy is for bad mouthings other countries and their own leaders.

Try bad mouthings their employer the boss if they hv balls.
 

syed putra

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Xi jinpings job is to destroy privately owned businesses snd return to the communist foctrine of state owned companies and central planning.
 

Rogue Trader

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In China the government controls businesses. In USA the businesses control the government.

The jury is still out on which model is better
 

eatshitndie

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gov running a biz is the worst of worst model. prc, nk, cuba, venezuela, iran, saudi arabia are sexamples, and some say sinkandpour.
 

Rogue Trader

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gov running a biz is the worst of worst model. prc, nk, cuba, venezuela, iran, saudi arabia are sexamples, and some say sinkandpour.
Regulation is not "running a business"

Heck .. Even Wallstreet's regulators couldn't prevent the subprime crisis. If Jack Ma's fintech monster was allowed to list it would have gone on with selling off big data powered high risk debts to investors. Winnie Xi don't like a subprime crisis in PRC
 

eatshitndie

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Regulation is not "running a business"

Heck .. Even Wallstreet's regulators couldn't prevent the subprime crisis. If Jack Ma's fintech monster was allowed to list it would have gone on with selling off big data powered high risk debts to investors. Winnie Xi don't like a subprime crisis in PRC
there’s nothing to prevent conflicts of interest if gov is both the regulator and the business enterprise. prc is not alone. happens everywhere including the u.s. for example, the transit system in the bay area is run by both the state and inter-county outfit staffed by former gov officials. every year ask for bailouts from taxpayers, funding by gov, and price increases on riders. they also happen to monopolize and regulate transit in the entire area, and territorize their monopoly by having 3 transit systems in 3 different zones in order not to compete with one another: bart between sf and east bay, caltrain from sf to south bay, smart in north bay. on top of that, they divide and conquer the bus and light rail routes: muni in sg, vta in south bay, act in east bay. can never keep their finances together. always in the red even during pre-pandamic. you think the big banks in prc are not in cahoots (and sexchanging sexecutives on musical chairs) with the state banking regulator? can’t believe an sbf veteran like you is so naive. perhaps you either pretend to be naive or in denial.
 

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there’s nothing to prevent conflicts of interest if gov is both the regulator and the business enterprise. prc is not alone. happens everywhere including the u.s. for example, the transit system in the bay area is run by both the state and inter-county outfit staffed by former gov officials. every year ask for bailouts from taxpayers, funding by gov, and price increases on riders. they also happen to monopolize and regulate transit in the entire area, and territorize their monopoly by having 3 transit systems in 3 different zones in order not to compete with one another: bart between sf and east bay, caltrain from sf to south bay, smart in north bay. on top of that, they divide and conquer the bus and light rail routes: muni in sg, vta in south bay, act in east bay. can never keep their finances together. always in the red even during pre-pandamic. you think the big banks in prc are not in cahoots (and sexchanging sexecutives on musical chairs) with the state banking regulator? can’t believe an sbf veteran like you is so naive. perhaps you either pretend to be naive or in denial.
Funny you're using public transport as your reference when any A level student knows it is public good and subject to its unique industry conditions. No need to look so far to Yankeedoodle country. Just look at LTA's difficulties managing aging smrt infrastructure not so long ago.

And i have never been under the spell that any country's corruption free. The government's job is to regulate thievery and negligence before market failure. And I know those Wallstreet bankers responsible for the 08 subprime crisis are happily sipping pinacoladas in a tropical resort ... While just a few days ago in China a former top executive of a state owned firm was sentenced to death for corruption and bribery.

And thanks for calling me naive. Suddenly had a flashback of a certain "scroobal" who liked to get personal when he is clutching at dried stalks of cereal plants. Miss that moniker sometimes.
 

eatshitndie

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Funny you're using public transport as your reference when any A level student knows it is public good and subject to its unique industry conditions. No need to look so far to Yankeedoodle country. Just look at LTA's difficulties managing aging smrt infrastructure not so long ago.

And i have never been under the spell that any country's corruption free. The government's job is to regulate thievery and negligence before market failure. And I know those Wallstreet bankers responsible for the 08 subprime crisis are happily sipping pinacoladas in a tropical resort ... While just a few days ago in China a former top executive of a state owned firm was sentenced to death for corruption and bribery.

And thanks for calling me naive. Suddenly had a flashback of a certain "scroobal" who liked to get personal when he is clutching at dried stalks of cereal plants. Miss that moniker sometimes.
you should know more about corruption and cronyism than anyone else if you are stationed in the prc. wall street certainly has the same vibes except that they’re rife under the banner of capitalism. the feds are in bed with the big 4 banks, and who survives and thrives depends on the fed board. the banking (and institutional investment) system in the u.s. is also rigged. the subprime crisis of 2016.9 did not fix the root of the problems. there will be another. these (reverse) mortgage, loan, refi, and equity-line companies just sprang up last 6.9 months and are all over tv, radio, internet, etc. to tout their low rates and zero credit checks. just a ssn and name will do to qualify. regulators are corrupt and cronyistic themselves. moving away from transit, the u.s. healthcare and health insurance system is also in the same boat. a major healthcare provider has just racked up 69 pubic health code violations in the midst of the pandamic including a super spreader event in one of their er’s by own staff (resulting in death), and all they get from the state regulator is less than a $69k fine. and on to utilities, the state pubic utilities commission (puc) attend sexpensive dinners at the likes of the french laundry with utility providers that they are supposed to police. the last french laundry fiasco involved the governor attending $696 a person dinner with his campaign manager, fund raisers, major donors, and campaign compliance watchdogs in the middle of a pandamic lockdown. just a day later, the nigga mayor of sf got caught attending a similarly sexpensive dinner with her cronies at the same freaking restaurant weeks after she imposed a lockdown in sf and the night before she implored sf residents not to get together to have dinners and parties.
 
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Watch out for @eatshitndie I have copied and sent a link to ICA and Ministry of Home Affairs, ISD so they can investigate this TRUMPTARD. He speaks of inciting violence, rioting so of course he will be arrested hopefully today in USA or for sure upon arrival at Changi
 

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History proves again and is correct to say that China biggest enemy is Chinese communist party and not capitalists
 

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Regulation is not "running a business"

Heck .. Even Wallstreet's regulators couldn't prevent the subprime crisis. If Jack Ma's fintech monster was allowed to list it would have gone on with selling off big data powered high risk debts to investors. Winnie Xi don't like a subprime crisis in PRC
When a bank refuse to lend money to the poor or a subprime , there must be a reason to it.

It just baffle me when the subprime borrowers can get a loan via ant financial when banks will bear the costs of lending and the aftermath with high interest, plus Ant financial taking a small commission for making the deal.

It's a subprime in making and I think Xi won't allow these stuff to happen to China.
 

hairylee

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The west is doing their best to break up China like they did to the former USSR.
With so many corrupt tycoon they are easily bought by them.
 

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When a bank refuse to lend money to the poor or a subprime , there must be a reason to it.

It just baffle me when the subprime borrowers can get a loan via ant financial when banks will bear the costs of lending and the aftermath with high interest, plus Ant financial taking a small commission for making the deal.

It's a subprime in making and I think Xi won't allow these stuff to happen to China.
This is what happened to Japan and when the west burst their bubble they are now they have to bend to the will of USA.
 

blackmondy

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CCPee also controls US tech giants. You can see that happening in Twatter, Farcebook and Googolo.
 

Rogue Trader

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The west is doing their best to break up China like they did to the former USSR.
With so many corrupt tycoon they are easily bought by them.
China had the fortune to learn from USSR's dissolution and made all the post socialist reforms. They are now learning from USA to avoid making the same mistakes with big tech and finance

This is one time being labelled a "copycat" actually pays off
 

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You've obviously haven't been out much

terribly short sighted aren't we?

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Even mundane economic reports revealed the scale of dislocation beginning in 1966, as reverence for Mao grew feverish while people attacked and killed each other in efforts to wipe out "capitalist roaders." Entire categories of people lost work overnight, including florists, fruit sellers, undertakers and dressmakers.

Toymakers curbed output as plastic became needed, instead, to make glossy covers for the Little Red Book. Factories churned out 50 million Mao badges a month, but still struggled to keep up with extraordinary demand for wearable images of the leader. So much aluminum was diverted to those badges that by 1969 Mao himself had to step in, demanding "give me back my airplanes."
 
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