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Nicole Seah's boyfriend hits out at TKL

Thick Face Black Heart

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Generous Asset
Nicole Seah's boyfriend has hit out at TKL.

All his arguments are spot on.

But he won't be seen as a neutral party, because of his girlfriend's open endorsement of TJS.



http://newnation.sg/2011/08/tan-kin-lian-is-the-new-synonym-for-hubris/

The reasons for Tan Kin Lian’s loss are plenty. But his loss is an endorsement of the democratic process of voting that validates the masses.
By Belmont Lay
As far as I’m concerned, Tan Kin Lian’s failure to make a dent in this presidential election is no one’s fault but his.
There was never any organised campaign to discredit him. (He did that mostly by himself.)
There was no known group who stridently denounced him. No one forced him into a misstep.
He was guided along the way by volunteers, some of whom were seasoned General Election candidates.
And as far as the media was concern, they were more than accommodating when it came to reports about him.
He, therefore, had reasons to feel good.
On the morning of polling day, Tan Kin Lian said, “I believe this contest will be very close… There is a large group of people in the silent majority making a decision and I am quite confident that I will do well”.
Right…
After garnering 4.91 percent or 103,931 votes when the results were tallied, he turned tail, conceded and is $48,000 poorer.
Not to mention, he spent an additional $70,000 on the campaign trail. And that is other people’s money that he received as donations.
Tan Kin Lian is now asking, “I want to know what can be improved. I don’t know why (I lost) and I hope people will tell me. I want to hear their reason.”
I do know why he lost. Likewise for many others who won’t be holding back answers.
So here goes.
Nanyang Technological University associate professor Cherian George said his poor showing was expected: “Tan Kin Lian had some experience as an activist, but no experience as a politician, so it was hard for him to translate his beliefs into an effective campaign”.
George also said, “Tan Kin Lian was outflanked on the right by Tan Cheng Bock and on the left by Tan Jee Say”.
Singapore Management University law lecturer Eugene Tan said the four-cornered fight did Kin Lian in.
Eugene said, “In a crowded field, he became the forgotten candidate. Perhaps he suffered from a credibility problem right from the word go.
“His 2009 effort to secure 100,000 signatures before he would run for presidency did not succeed. His decision to run in 2011 was greeted with some amount of doubt and incredulity.
“While he’s seen as someone who spoke up for investors who were misled, the good Samaritan or David vs Goliath approach did not necessarily translate to wider perceptions of suitability for the President’s office”.
NUS political analyst Reuben Wong attributed Kin Lian’s staying on the sidelines in the General Election in May as a mistake.
There is no natural constituency for him as a result.
And not to mention, Kin Lian is prone to sabotaging himself.
Kin Lian got chased out of shopping centres for doing walkabouts. (What were his volunteers thinking?)
He even handed out fliers during the memorial ceremony of Internal Security Act detainee Tan Jing Quee.
If you even know the people who would attend the memorial ceremony of an ex-political detainee, this act of campaigning during such a sanctimonious session is the equivalent of lap-dancing during Mass.
And then there were the revelations about his job at NTUC Income: His 30-year career came under scrutiny.
Policyholders and ex-colleagues pointed out his bad investments, which he shrugged off as business decisions.
His sudden departure in 2007 was revealed to be due to differences with him and the board, which later said they wanted the insurance cooperative to be more professionally run. (Ahem…)
Kin Lian has been described by his detractors as a senior insurance salesman.
And when you think what can be so difficult about being professional, you get hit in the face by Kin Lian’s populist proposals.
He pledged to donate half of his president’s salary to charity, give more to national servicemen and pay pensions to the elderly.
Eugene Tan said, “These were not really within the ambit of the elected presidency’s office as delineated in the Constitution. But the proposals thrown up made him look opportunistic and that only took more wind out of his sail at the closing stages of the campaign”
So are we done pointing out his faults?
No, no, we just started.
Next, his campaign logo sucks.
Is it ominous or what? It shows a drowning man’s hand. Shouting for help.
Besides not being able to craft a sleeker logo, Kin Lian neither possesses a statesman demeanour, nor does he speak fluently. (Reminds one of Lim Swee Say actually, of “better, betterer, betterest” fame.)
Chen Show Mao has a statesman demeanour. Reluctantly, His Leeness also has a statesman demeanour.
Even with his disco ball head, Tharman Shanmugaratnam has a statesman stature.
And most importantly, head-of-states don’t do high-fives. Only evil clowns out to get children do.
His flip-flopping over whether to contest in this election and the conditional terms he set out for his contest to be president are not indicators of someone who appears as very confident about his own chances.
And then there was the talk that he considered pulling out.
Hey, seriously, if you go in blind, you come out blind.
So how is Tan Kin Lian’s loss a validation of democratic voting?
For one, the collective crowd can be a good judge of value.
When not queuing up in masses overnight for Hello Kitty plush toys thinking they are worth it, the collective intelligence and judgement call of very large groups of people can be pretty good at picking up on cues as to what’s good for them and what’s not.
Which leaves me with my point of today’s missive: The Hello Kitty crowd that bothers to queue overnight for plush toys? I believe they make up that deluded five percent that actually voted for Kin Lian.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
Let see if he has the balls to write such scathing reports about the govt and the PAP. Its clearly evident that TKL has no support base so the vultures are out.
 

refulgence

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Loyal
The post-election tirade against TKL from all quarters makes it next to impossible for him to make a successful come back after his debacle at the recent polls.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Let see if he has the balls to write such scathing reports about the govt and the PAP. Its clearly evident that TKL has no support base so the vultures are out.

Well, it just reflects badly on him and possibly, Nicole in the end. That's bad.

Goh Meng Seng
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Generous Asset
The post-election tirade against TKL from all quarters makes it next to impossible for him to make a successful come back after his debacle at the recent polls.

nobody will remember his minibond adventure and standing up at hong lim on behalf of a group of angry bank-preferred customers who got played out by their personal RM who cater to those clientele with only 100K deposit and above.
 

lockeliberal

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Loyal
Dear Thick

Does anyone believe that Belmont acted on his own without any inspiration from Miss NS ? Most of us are just trying to forget a bad PE with a lamentable result for the 65%, she seems insistent on defending her chosen hero to the death, like some emo women suffering regrets about buying a product which went bad but being unable to admit she is wrong and doubling the bet on the wrong decision.

I would have thought she would have run as far away from TJS as possible in view of his dismal polling and his total lack of ability to build political bridges and no's. All I can say is that on counting nite a TJS supporter and agent from GE to PE looked surprised when I rebutted him by telling him that TJS could not return to opposition politics after the PE. I can only hope that TJS supporters are all not suffering from the same collective inability to use their frakking head



Locke







nobody will remember his minibond adventure and standing up at hong lim on behalf of a group of angry bank-preferred customers who got played out by their personal RM who cater to those clientele with only 100K deposit and above.
 

HedgeTrader

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Loyal
Let see if he has the balls to write such scathing reports about the govt and the PAP. Its clearly evident that TKL has no support base so the vultures are out.

Scathing but right. TKL looks very haolian type, don't take advice and don't apologise type, but also completely lost direction type. He's from RI but his English is worse than LTK from some Chinese school.

Since I spoilt vote, let me give some neutral review. TJS is clearly SDP. That gave him 20% base of diehard anti-PAP that TKL was hoping for and therefore so bitter when TJS stood. TKL has the worse look with a silly almost lecherous grin also. TJS got the best look and smile among the 4 but he's also most wooden in body gesture.

TCB was the most pleasant and sincere looking and match it up with his speeches. TT was as always looking like the tiger with soft roar but ready with big bite. Both spilt the mass of 70% votes bewteen moderate to conservative.
 

Perspective

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Loyal
So Belmont Lay hits out at TKL without considering that his girlfriend in Marine Parade was the idea of his girl's Sec-Gen who fielded her there and got 42%. Sure, so much for gratitude. Young people these days. Sheesh.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
Really poor form. I expected better from someone associated with NS. TKL should be bear the brunt for all the things he did badly etc. But this is full of venom. If people like TKL did not step forward, who else do we expect to step forward.

I wonder if this diversionary.

Dear Thick

Does anyone believe that Belmont acted on his own without any inspiration from Miss NS ? Most of us are just trying to forget a bad PE with a lamentable result for the 65%, she seems insistent on defending her chosen hero to the death, like some emo women suffering regrets about buying a product which went bad but being unable to admit she is wrong and doubling the bet on the wrong decision.

I would have thought she would have run as far away from TJS as possible in view of his dismal polling and his total lack of ability to build political bridges and no's. All I can say is that on counting nite a TJS supporter and agent from GE to PE looked surprised when I rebutted him by telling him that TJS could not return to opposition politics after the PE. I can only hope that TJS supporters are all not suffering from the same collective inability to use their frakking head



Locke
 

scroobal

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Loyal
This is full of venom. Its directed at a member of the opposition.

I fully agree that TKL screwed himself royally but lets not plunge the knife any deeper. The guys must have got the message. This shows lack of class, poor upbringing and a mean streak.


Scathing but right. TKL looks very haolian type, don't take advice and don't apologise type, but also completely lost direction type. He's from RI but his English is worse than LTK from some Chinese school.

Since I spoilt vote, let me give some neutral review. TJS is clearly SDP. That gave him 20% base of diehard anti-PAP that TKL was hoping for and therefore so bitter when TJS stood. TKL has the worse look with a silly almost lecherous grin also. TJS got the best look and smile among the 4 but he's also most wooden in body gesture.

TCB was the most pleasant and sincere looking and match it up with his speeches. TT was as always looking like the tiger with soft roar but ready with big bite. Both spilt the mass of 70% votes bewteen moderate to conservative.
 

scroobal

Alfrescian
Loyal
Fully agree. As far as I am concerned this guy is a dead duck. Can you imagine if his girlfriend get into parliament, the abuse of office that will follow.


So Belmont Lay hits out at TKL without considering that his girlfriend in Marine Parade was the idea of his girl's Sec-Gen who fielded her there and got 42%. Sure, so much for gratitude. Young people these days. Sheesh.
 

HedgeTrader

Alfrescian
Loyal
This is full of venom. Its directed at a member of the opposition.

I fully agree that TKL screwed himself royally but lets not plunge the knife any deeper. The guys must have got the message. This shows lack of class, poor upbringing and a mean streak.

I hope I understand correctly you mean full of venom at Belmont, not at me. I'm just giving neutral review as I see it through the 9 days campaigning. My knowledge is limited to papers, TV and internet.
 
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Narong Wongwan

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This fellow goes on as if TKL fucked his mother like that...
Knn elections over already la no need to attack until like this, getting so personal and even looking down on those voters who voted for TKL.
Knn my admiration and respect for NS drop already.
This fucker want to act hero then like bro said write a similar piece on PAP....or he stand for elections himself I think cannot garner close to 100k votes.
 

scroobal

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Loyal
Not you bro. You are perfectly fine. The venom I mentioned is in the article written by Belmont.


I hope I understand correctly you mean full of venom at Belmont, not at me. I'm just giving neutral review as it see it through the 9 days campaigning.
 

scroobal

Alfrescian
Loyal
Agree Bro. I think TKL spoke at NSP rally during GE2011. Balless Bastard with a name that is associated with raceground.


This fellow goes on as if TKL fucked his mother like that...
Knn elections over already la no need to attack until like this, getting so personal and even looking down on those voters who voted for TKL.
Knn my admiration and respect for NS drop already.
This fucker want to act hero then like bro said write a similar piece on PAP....or he stand for elections himself I think cannot garner close to 100k votes.
 

refulgence

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Loyal
Scathing but right. TKL looks very haolian type, don't take advice and don't apologise type, but also completely lost direction type. He's from RI but his English is worse than LTK from some Chinese school.

Since I spoilt vote, let me give some neutral review. TJS is clearly SDP. That gave him 20% base of diehard anti-PAP that TKL was hoping for and therefore so bitter when TJS stood. TKL has the worse look with a silly almost lecherous grin also. TJS got the best look and smile among the 4 but he's also most wooden in body gesture.

TCB was the most pleasant and sincere looking and match it up with his speeches. TT was as always looking like the tiger with soft roar but ready with big bite. Both spilt the mass of 70% votes bewteen moderate to conservative.

Your analysis and profiling of the candidates are both spot-on.
 

Zenra2OO3

Alfrescian
Loyal
Nicole Seah's boyfriend has hit out at TKL.

All his arguments are spot on.

But he won't be seen as a neutral party, because of his girlfriend's open endorsement of TJS.



http://newnation.sg/2011/08/tan-kin-lian-is-the-new-synonym-for-hubris/

The reasons for Tan Kin Lian’s loss are plenty. But his loss is an endorsement of the democratic process of voting that validates the masses.
By Belmont Lay
As far as I’m concerned, Tan Kin Lian’s failure to make a dent in this presidential election is no one’s fault but his.
There was never any organised campaign to discredit him. (He did that mostly by himself.)
There was no known group who stridently denounced him. No one forced him into a misstep.
He was guided along the way by volunteers, some of whom were seasoned General Election candidates.
And as far as the media was concern, they were more than accommodating when it came to reports about him.
He, therefore, had reasons to feel good.
On the morning of polling day, Tan Kin Lian said, “I believe this contest will be very close… There is a large group of people in the silent majority making a decision and I am quite confident that I will do well”.
Right…
After garnering 4.91 percent or 103,931 votes when the results were tallied, he turned tail, conceded and is $48,000 poorer.
Not to mention, he spent an additional $70,000 on the campaign trail. And that is other people’s money that he received as donations.
Tan Kin Lian is now asking, “I want to know what can be improved. I don’t know why (I lost) and I hope people will tell me. I want to hear their reason.”
I do know why he lost. Likewise for many others who won’t be holding back answers.
So here goes.
Nanyang Technological University associate professor Cherian George said his poor showing was expected: “Tan Kin Lian had some experience as an activist, but no experience as a politician, so it was hard for him to translate his beliefs into an effective campaign”.
George also said, “Tan Kin Lian was outflanked on the right by Tan Cheng Bock and on the left by Tan Jee Say”.
Singapore Management University law lecturer Eugene Tan said the four-cornered fight did Kin Lian in.
Eugene said, “In a crowded field, he became the forgotten candidate. Perhaps he suffered from a credibility problem right from the word go.
“His 2009 effort to secure 100,000 signatures before he would run for presidency did not succeed. His decision to run in 2011 was greeted with some amount of doubt and incredulity.
“While he’s seen as someone who spoke up for investors who were misled, the good Samaritan or David vs Goliath approach did not necessarily translate to wider perceptions of suitability for the President’s office”.
NUS political analyst Reuben Wong attributed Kin Lian’s staying on the sidelines in the General Election in May as a mistake.
There is no natural constituency for him as a result.
And not to mention, Kin Lian is prone to sabotaging himself.
Kin Lian got chased out of shopping centres for doing walkabouts. (What were his volunteers thinking?)
He even handed out fliers during the memorial ceremony of Internal Security Act detainee Tan Jing Quee.
If you even know the people who would attend the memorial ceremony of an ex-political detainee, this act of campaigning during such a sanctimonious session is the equivalent of lap-dancing during Mass.
And then there were the revelations about his job at NTUC Income: His 30-year career came under scrutiny.
Policyholders and ex-colleagues pointed out his bad investments, which he shrugged off as business decisions.
His sudden departure in 2007 was revealed to be due to differences with him and the board, which later said they wanted the insurance cooperative to be more professionally run. (Ahem…)
Kin Lian has been described by his detractors as a senior insurance salesman.
And when you think what can be so difficult about being professional, you get hit in the face by Kin Lian’s populist proposals.
He pledged to donate half of his president’s salary to charity, give more to national servicemen and pay pensions to the elderly.
Eugene Tan said, “These were not really within the ambit of the elected presidency’s office as delineated in the Constitution. But the proposals thrown up made him look opportunistic and that only took more wind out of his sail at the closing stages of the campaign”
So are we done pointing out his faults?
No, no, we just started.
Next, his campaign logo sucks.
Is it ominous or what? It shows a drowning man’s hand. Shouting for help.
Besides not being able to craft a sleeker logo, Kin Lian neither possesses a statesman demeanour, nor does he speak fluently. (Reminds one of Lim Swee Say actually, of “better, betterer, betterest” fame.)
Chen Show Mao has a statesman demeanour. Reluctantly, His Leeness also has a statesman demeanour.
Even with his disco ball head, Tharman Shanmugaratnam has a statesman stature.
And most importantly, head-of-states don’t do high-fives. Only evil clowns out to get children do.
His flip-flopping over whether to contest in this election and the conditional terms he set out for his contest to be president are not indicators of someone who appears as very confident about his own chances.
And then there was the talk that he considered pulling out.
Hey, seriously, if you go in blind, you come out blind.
So how is Tan Kin Lian’s loss a validation of democratic voting?
For one, the collective crowd can be a good judge of value.
When not queuing up in masses overnight for Hello Kitty plush toys thinking they are worth it, the collective intelligence and judgement call of very large groups of people can be pretty good at picking up on cues as to what’s good for them and what’s not.
Which leaves me with my point of today’s missive: The Hello Kitty crowd that bothers to queue overnight for plush toys? I believe they make up that deluded five percent that actually voted for Kin Lian.


Googled for this fellow's name and this came out

http://justrambling.sg/?tag=belmont-lay

"The future of Singapore’s newspapers may lie in the plans of a student rejected from journalism school and The Straits Times."

Enough said.

I think this Belmont Lay is going to be Nicole Seah's stumbling block. He is not getting anyone's good books with his style of writings. Not surprised to see a person whose writing of such calibre rejected from Journalism school, though he could be good for ST hahahhaha... If he made enough enemies, it will come back to haunt Nicole Seah..Maybe Nicole should just break up with this dud before it causes her further damage...
 
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