• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Muslim tries to burn down French Church, Mayor calls for ‘Coexistence’. Thanks MUIS, sinkieland's mosques, churches & temples already in 'Coexistence'

duluxe

Alfrescian
Loyal
https://france3-regions.francetvinf...use-echappe-de-peu-a-un-incendie-2783070.html

The individuals overturned candles on the ground, damaged frames and defaced a crucifix. They caused a fire to start. Fortunately, a passerby intervened in time: he was able to stop the flames and contact the emergency services….
It is only by chance that there was a passerby who managed to extinguish the flames. Had he not been there, it is entirely possible that the fire set by the would-be arsonists would have consumed the entire inside of the church.

The mayor of Cugnaux immediately denounced these acts and expressed his solidarity with the Catholic community. “To ensure coexistence in Cugnaux, it is crucial that we collectively oppose hatred and intolerance, by promoting dialogue and understanding between the different religious and cultural communities of our city,” insisted Albert Sanchez, the mayor of Cugnaux. “Diversity is our strength and our pride, so let’s stand together and mobilize so that Cugnaux remains united, resilient and determined to face intolerance and violence.”
The hopeful, naïve Mayor of Cugnaux is whistling in the dark. At this stage in the history of France, with 10% of the population now consisting of Muslim economic migrants, attacks on churches and other Christian sites are a biweekly affair. One religious building is disappearing in France every two weeks. More on these attacks on Christians religious edifices in France can be found in this still-relevant article from 2021:

‘One religious building is disappearing in France every two weeks.’
That is the conclusion of Edouard de Lamaze, president of the Observatoire du patrimoine religieux (Observatory of Religious Heritage) in Paris.
He is raising the alarm in the French media about the gradual disappearance of religious edifices in a country known as the “eldest daughter of the Church” because the Frankish King Clovis I embraced Catholicism in 496.

Lamaze’s appeal for increased awareness came after a fire destroyed the 16th-century Church of Saint-Pierre in Romilly-la-Puthenaye, Normandy, northern France. The fire, deemed “accidental,” took place on April 15, exactly two years after the blaze that devastated Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris.
Lamaze told CNA in an interview that in addition to one religious building disappearing every two weeks — by demolition, transformation, destruction by fire, or collapse — two-thirds of fires in religious buildings are due to arson.
Who are these arsonists? They are the people who have been raised since infancy to despise Christians and Christianity, who have been taught in their holy book, the Qur’an, to think of themselves, the Muslims, as “the best of peoples,” while Christians are Infidels, “the most vile of created beings.” It would make sense for a devout Muslim to want to destroy religious structures of the infidels, which do nothing but serve to keep people from the “straight path” of Islam.

While these statistics include buildings belonging to all religious groups, most of them concern Catholic monuments, which still represent a large majority in France, where there are roughly 45,000 Catholic places of worship.
Although Catholic monuments are still ahead, one mosque is erected every 15 days in France, while one Christian building is destroyed at the same pace,” Lamaze said. “It creates a tipping point on the territory that should be taken into account.”
Lamaze believes that on average more than two Christian monuments are targeted every day. Two-thirds of these incidents concern theft, while the remaining third involve desecration.

According to the most recent figures from France’s central criminal intelligence unit, 877 attacks on Catholic places of worship were recorded across the country in 2018 alone.
These people who desecrate Christian churches and monuments are impelled by a deep hatred that only Islam inculcates; they may steal whatever is of value in a church, helping themselves to a kind of proleptic jizyah, while attempting in many cases to burn down the structure itself, for what good are churches that inculcate false beliefs and keep their parishioners from the truth of Islam?

Cugnaux is indeed a town where several religious communities coexist: Catholic, Muslim and Buddhist. “These religious communities have always lived well together in Cugnaux,” specifies Albert Sanchez, who says he is surprised and shocked. “This is the first time that we are dealing with this type of act on a religious building.” Father François, for his part, invokes rather “a stupidity of children.”
The Mayor, Albert Sanchez, consoles himself with the thought that the different religious communities in his village have “always lived well together.” But perhaps that was because in the past there were so very few Muslims; they did not feel strong enough to show their real feelings toward Christians. Now there are many more of these Muslim migrants, and they are beginning to flex their muscles. Among them are those who believe that they have a right to destroy the religious buildings belonging to the other, untrue religions. The attempted arson of the church is unlikely to be a one-off; the good Mayor can expect more attacks by Muslims not just on Christian religious sites, but on those of other religions (he mentions Buddhists, who apparently also live in Cugnaux).

Mayor Sanchez is convinced that “to ensure coexistence in Cugnaux, it is crucial that we collectively oppose hatred and intolerance, by promoting dialogue and understanding between the different religious and cultural communities of our city.” Apparently he takes it on faith that Muslims want “dialogue and understanding” with non-Muslims. But when, in the past 1400 years, have Muslims, once they attained a position of dominance, ever wanted “dialogue and understanding” with non-Muslims? They are not interested; the “hatred and intolerance” that Mayor Sanchez deplores is in fact central to Islam; the Qur’an and hadith teach Muslims “not to take Christians or Jews as friends for they are friends only with each other,” and to regard Infidels as “the most vile of created beings.” The Qur’an teaches that Muslims, who are the “best of peoples,” must dominate, and never allow themselves to be dominated by, Infidels. I am sure Mayor Sanchez of Cugnaux knows none of this, but he must learn enough about the texts and teachings of Islam to better protect the people of his village from a threat he still fails to comprehend.

“Diversity is our strength and our pride, so let’s stand together and mobilize so that Cugnaux remains united, resilient and determined to face intolerance and violence.” Also sprach the Mayor of Cugnaux. But his statement is nonsense. In what countries of the world is “diversity” a strength rather than a weakness? It’s simply an idol of the age, this idiotic notion – repeated ad nauseam without any attempt to provide evidence of its truth — that “diversity is strength.” “Diversity” is especially damaging to social cohesion when a considerable number of people in a European country subscribe to the ideology of Islam, a fanatical faith that divides the world between Believers and non-Believers, and teaches Muslims to despise non-Muslims. How can that possibly be a “strength”? Instead, the Mayor of Cugnaux ought to recognize that the people of his village are not “united, resilient, and determined to confront intolerance and violence.” There are plenty of people – Muslims – in his village who are not at all unhappy at the attempt to burn down the church, and whose “intolerance” of, and “violence” toward, non-Muslims is central to their faith.

What could Mayor Sanchez have said instead? He could have noted that the attempted arson of the church “is not a solitary incident, that there have recently been at least two such attacks on churches every week in France, that they appear to have been carried out by Muslims, and so we expect Muslims to take a major role in ferreting out those in their community who have been guilty of such criminal acts. And they should be reporting to the authorities any Islamic preachers spreading hatred toward non-Muslims and praising jihad. Otherwise, all talk about rooting out ‘intolerance’ is so much hot air. As for the oft-expressed bromide that ‘diversity is our strength,’ there is no evidence for the truth of this claim anywhere in the world, but especially in Europe, where the baleful effects of massive Muslim migration are now clear for all to see. As your mayor, still reeling, as you must be, from the attempted arson at the church, I won’t insult you by repeating that bromide about ‘diversity is our strength’ today. I no longer believe it is.”
 

bigozt

Alfrescian
Loyal
The French give them papers but do not welcome their social integration. This can only breed extremism.
 

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal
Southern france was under muslim rule 1000 years ago. Its going back to its roots.and destiny.

1687653965095.png
 

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal

France Under Muslim Rule, Fraxinet(um)​

Rated 0 out of 5 stars.

No ratings yet

After the opening of Al Andalus, the Muslims reached the Pyrenees, the mountain range separating the Iberian Peninsula from the rest of Europe. It stretches more than 430 km and rises higher than 3,400 m in elevation. They opened the cities of the northern Spanish Provence Navarra and the southern French city Avignon. In 719, they reached the Frankish province of Septimania with its capital Narbonne which was fortified and garrisoned by Muslim troops.



Two years later, the ‘Saracens’, as the Muslims were called in this part of the world, reached Acquitaine’s capital, Toulouse, where they were overwhelmed by the Franks and had to retreat. In 725 however, the Muslims managed to open Carcassone and Nimes but had to give up the Pyrenees by 726 and to return to Andalus. By 729, many places in nowadays France became part of the Muslim empire such as the towns and cities of Lyon, Macon, Chalons-Sur-Rhone, Beaune and Autun, all close to the Swiss border, as well as Arles, Bordeaux and Besançon.


48b6dd_d1a06bc43a2f44fd937a04b43a1ee162~mv2.png




Image Represents the advancement of the Muslim forces through France




In 732, about twenty kilometres northeast of Poitiers, the Muslims were defeated and 'Abderrahman al-Ghafiqi fell in this famous battle of Poitiers.


Flourishing cities such as Bezier, Agen, Nimes and Maguelone were destroyed by the Franks.


By 755, only the city of Narbonne remained in Muslim hands. The Franks besieged the city for 4 years and because of help from the city’s Christian inhabitants, they managed to capture Narbonne and to massacre all Muslims in it.
However, about a century later in 889/890, a group of Muslims from Andalus sailed up the Gulf of St Tropez and without being bothered found a new Muslim settlement called Fraxinet or Fraxinetum. It became the Muslim base from where the Muslims marched into the Alps and northern Italy, reaching as far as the present country of Switzerland by 906.


48b6dd_a44248d2a26046dda2d802565657aaf0~mv2.png




Image of the 'Saracens' (Muslims) landing on coast of Gulf of St Tropez




Here, King Hugh of Arles recognised a big part of the Alpine region as an independent ‘Saracen’ state in the south of Switzerland. We speak more about the Muslims in Switzerland and their influence in another blog Link Here: "Link".


In 972, the Muslims were defeated in this region and had to abandon the Alps. In about 975, the Christians overcame their differences, joined forces with Count William of Arles and together managed to destroy Fraxinet.




As Fraxinet was the administrative capital of all Muslim settlements in France, northern Italy and Switzerland, it was wealthy and the treasure was distributed among William and his men
The ruling Grimaldi family of Monaco received the area where the hillside village of Grimaud stands today, overlooking the port of St. Tropez. The family’s feudal castle was built in the so-called ‘Saracen’ style. Its ruins can still be found crowning the village. So, Grimaud in itself and many other fortified hill villages are reminders of the Muslims’ presence in this region of France.




Unfortunately, there is not a lot that has remained from that time, but one can still explore the ruins of the so-called ‘Saracen towers’ erected for defence and as watch posts. Some were made by the Muslims and others the Franks copied all along the coast, as well as in nearby valleys.


48b6dd_35273b79b3c14cec878ac20bbecde367~mv2.png




Image of the 'Saracen tower' in Southern France




Some French scholars believe the Andalusis of Fraxinet introduced the cultivation of buckwheat, a grain that has two names in modern French:


blé noir (black wheat) and blé sarrasin (Saracen wheat).


They also taught the villagers medical skills and introduced both ceramic tiles and the tambourine to the area.




The presence of the Muslims in the Provence and their legacy form part of the folk memory of this region:


the place names, the cork industry, the ruins, the local agriculture, the ceramic tiles, the tambourine and the poetry of the troubadours are all reminders of a flourishing Islamic culture and civilisation in this part of the world.
 

syed putra

Alfrescian
Loyal
Last time muslim scholars were best in the world during Dark Age.
Something changed. Their way of life became a religion.
At that time christians were burning all the books and only bible can be kept. So works by greeks, romans, Persians were saved by the arabs. And they learned from these unlike today where muslims are fixated on the quran alone thinking it has key to all knowledge.
 

k1976

Alfrescian
Loyal
Something changed. Their way of life became a religion.
At that time christians were burning all the books and only bible can be kept. So works by greeks, romans, Persians were saved by the arabs. And they learned from these unlike today where muslims are fixated on the quran alone thinking it has key to all knowledge.
Last time Muslim has very great minds and benevolent people
 

k1976

Alfrescian
Loyal
They have bigger hearts to win people over as it encourage positive growth and outcome
 

laksaboy

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
There is only one solution which Trump had already mentioned years ago: bullets dipped in pig's blood.

You must make them genuinely fear you, that is the only thing which registers with them. :cool:


 
Top