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Muslim scholars are lying, Muhammud actually could read and write!

Thank for presenting your arguments and views in a very peaceful manner.

I am merely doing factual reporting on evils things committed by moslems around the world. If you consider that as anti-islam, then those bad moslems who do evil things against fellow muslims, their welcoming host countries and non-believers are supposed to be pro--islam? Or pro-Koran? You did say every race has bad people, I agree. But my context is faith related wrong-doings. By faith related itself , islam has the highest rate. Islam is boasted by its believers as a peaceful religion, it should be the lowest. Can you answer WHY?

Muhammed was a long distance businessman and a very successful one. Those days they don't have GPS to help them navigate, if he can't read how can he be a successful traveling businessman?

Early muslims showed the greatest respect for Muhummed because they have no chance to know of other greatest saints around Muhammed period who don't womanize or have sex with underage girl or kill in the name of religion propagation or loot caravans? Did confucius did all these. Confucius advocated doing good to others including your enemies and those who wronged you.
OK. I surrender. Raise white flag.

But then, there is a problem. I have to consult the Mufti of Singapore to ask if a true Singaporean Muslim is allowed to surrender. There is clear command a Muslim cannot commit suicide. Is surrender in the face of difficulty allowed in Islam? I am not too sure.

Chan Rasjid.
 
The Romans has been hunting James descendants to 斬草除根 to the end. They were captured by the Romans. This was in the time of the last king of Romans.

The king let them go, seeing that they are poor peasants was not a threat.

But, if the King was to kill all of them, there wld not be Islam or Allah today.

As I mentioned, James decendant was found by the Arabs in the minor Asia desert in AD425. And Mohammad heard of them and the Quran might have been written by the James descendant. James descendant were highly educated with Prophecies knowledge such as Prophet Isaiah, Prophet Zakaria and so on mentioned in the Bibke OT.

And to install Mohammad as a new prophet make sense. Nevertheless, Mohammad was unlike the high priest Jesus who was descent, pure and clean religious person.

Mohammad was a trader, a tribal king. Like any kings, they can hv many wify and concubines etc, no mercy killing enemies and commoners.

As such to bring up Mohammad, a tribal king, to hv many wify, sex with many young girls, kill enemy or in jihad style, is a bit far stretch to put Islam and Muslim in a bad light image.

Be constructive in yr argument and take it with a pinch of salt of who and what Mohammad was, a tribal king, turned to be a good fella, and was installed to be a Prophet for his good work by the people he services and they honor him, with a prophetic title.

Similarly, take LKY for example, he did not start off as a high priest holy man, but as a Japanese traitor work for the Jap during the Jap occupation in Singapore. Then he become a lawyer won a murder case for the defendant which he regretted later.

But he turned out to be a good politician, an architect and a good leader which u have had remembered him, and honor his good work...

Hope this helps... psst if you like my bullshit click the like button...





Thank for presenting your arguments and views in a very peaceful manner.

I am merely doing factual reporting on evils things committed by moslems around the world. If you consider that as anti-islam, then those bad moslems who do evil things against fellow muslims, their welcoming host countries and non-believers are supposed to be pro--islam? Or pro-Koran? You did say every race has bad people, I agree. But my context is faith related wrong-doings. By faith related itself , islam has the highest rate. Islam is boasted by its believers as a peaceful religion, it should be the lowest. Can you answer WHY?

Muhammed was a long distance businessman and a very successful one. Those days they don't have GPS to help them navigate, if he can't read how can he be a successful traveling businessman?

Early muslims showed the greatest respect for Muhummed because they have no chance to know of other greatest saints around Muhammed period who don't womanize or have sex with underage girl or kill in the name of religion propagation or loot caravans? Did confucius did all these. Confucius advocated doing good to others including your enemies and those who wronged you.
 
Arabs of muhammad's time wouldn't think of slavery, robbery or rape as a sin because they were also doing it. Having a prophet who took part in such activities made it easy for them to accept him and legitimized their aggression against others. The moslems even gave robbers a religious title like 'ghazi', which all ottoman sultans had when they ascended the throne. Imagine your king or emperor walking around proclaiming proudly that he was a 'holy robber', where acts of robbery against non-believers were treated as acts of piety before God.
Just a note. Genghis Khan did the same.
 
Velly intelesting.
The Romans has been hunting James descendants to 斬草除根 to the end. They were captured by the Romans. This was in the time of the last king of Romans.

The king let them go, seeing that they are poor peasants was not a threat.

But, if the King was to kill all of them, there wld not be Islam or Allah today.

As I mentioned, James decendant was found by the Arabs in the minor Asia desert in AD425. And Mohammad heard of them and the Quran might have been written by the James descendant. James descendant were highly educated with Prophecies knowledge such as Prophet Isaiah, Prophet Zakaria and so on mentioned in the Bibke OT.

And to install Mohammad as a new prophet make sense. Nevertheless, Mohammad was unlike the high priest Jesus who was descent, pure and clean religious person.

Mohammad was a trader, a tribal king. Like any kings, they can hv many wify and concubines etc, no mercy killing enemies and commoners.

As such to bring up Mohammad, a tribal king, to hv many wify, sex with many young girls, kill enemy or in jihad style, is a bit far stretch to put Islam and Muslim in a bad light image.

Be constructive in yr argument and take it with a pinch of salt of who and what Mohammad was, a tribal king, turned to be a good fella, and was installed to be a Prophet for his good work by the people he services and they honor him, with a prophetic title.

Similarly, take LKY for example, he did not start off as a high priest holy man, but as a Japanese traitor work for the Jap during the Jap occupation in Singapore. Then he become a lawyer won a murder case for the defendant which he regretted later.

But he turned out to be a good politician, an architect and a good leader which u have had remembered him, and honor his good work...

Hope this helps... psst if you like my bullshit click the like button...
 
OK. I surrender. Raise white flag.

But then, there is a problem. I have to consult the Mufti of Singapore to ask if a true Singaporean Muslim is allowed to surrender. There is clear command a Muslim cannot commit suicide. Is surrender in the face of difficulty allowed in Islam? I am not too sure.

Chan Rasjid.
Just leave the faith.
 
Hi. Just want to suggest an alternative to the above viewpoints. There seems to be good evidence of Muhammad's existence. How much of what he could read and write I have no idea though. My investigations point to Muhammad dying before the creation of Islam and the Koran. Much like how Jesus died before a bible was ever published.

So I would suggest that evidence points to Islam being like Christianty and was a religion created post mortem without Muhammad's direct involvement.

In fact, I did find a document directly attributable to Muhammad's oversight/authorship and it reads 180 degrees different from the Koran.
Therenis strong evidence mohamad could read and write. But the present quran was not written by him. How muslims can still say its the word of God is a mystery as even they know it was written by men after mohamad's death. Those that still claim some had memorised certain scriptures/ verses, i can tell youmits very difficult to do that without missing or altering a few words here and there.
 
Just leave the faith.

Don't advise Mr Chandra @ChanRasjid to leave the faith even though Singapore is one of the very few countries where a muslim can leave ISLAM without getting much harm or harassment. Singapre Islam is not the same as authentic Islam practiced by muslim countries but is more peaceful and tolerance. We can encourage him to approach MUIS on the idea of revert spreading singapore version of Islam back to Saudi Arabia. It would be for the betterment of muslims and mankind.
 
Don't advise Mr Chandra @ChanRasjid to leave the faith even though Singapore is one of the very few countries where a muslim can leave ISLAM without getting much harm or harassment. Singapre Islam is not the same as authentic Islam practiced by muslim countries but is more peaceful and tolerance. We can encourage him to approach MUIS on the idea of revert spreading singapore version of Islam back to Saudi Arabia. It would be for the betterment of muslims and mankind.
 
Just kill all the chinks. Problem solved. Shoot them in the head one by one
 
Therenis strong evidence mohamad could read and write. But the present quran was not written by him. How muslims can still say its the word of God is a mystery as even they know it was written by men after mohamad's death. Those that still claim some had memorised certain scriptures/ verses, i can tell youmits very difficult to do that without missing or altering a few words here and there.
it's a mystery to me too. If anything I think it's as close to blasphemy as one can get on this planet.
 
Don't advise Mr Chandra @ChanRasjid to leave the faith even though Singapore is one of the very few countries where a muslim can leave ISLAM without getting much harm or harassment. Singapre Islam is not the same as authentic Islam practiced by muslim countries but is more peaceful and tolerance. We can encourage him to approach MUIS on the idea of revert spreading singapore version of Islam back to Saudi Arabia. It would be for the betterment of muslims and mankind.
just a question. How do we know which one is authentic at this point? Although they insist their writings are the reference, different people seem to interpret it differently.
 
just a question. How do we know which one is authentic at this point? Although they insist their writings are the reference, different people seem to interpret it differently.
Authentic in those countries where islam can be practiced freely and imams can preach without censorship. china and sinkieland not authentic.
 
Don't advise Mr Chandra @ChanRasjid to leave the faith even though Singapore is one of the very few countries where a muslim can leave ISLAM without getting much harm or harassment. Singapre Islam is not the same as authentic Islam practiced by muslim countries but is more peaceful and tolerance. We can encourage him to approach MUIS on the idea of revert spreading singapore version of Islam back to Saudi Arabia. It would be for the betterment of muslims and mankind.
Freedom of faith is for all as stated in Quranic verses.
 
Just kill all the chinks. Problem solved. Shoot them in the head one by one
Please do not shoot their chio bu girls. You can do like what mongols did. Kill just the useless men and ugly women. The ones that can benefit, keep them.
 
There is no such thing as imams in Islam.you deal directly with God.
Chinks burn shit and pasteurize 50cent worth of shitty fruits to their ancestors. They think their ancestors will bless them for sending shit up in the air. The only thing it creates is a vicious cycle of air pollution. Fucking dogs never understand what is going on
 
Please do not shoot their chio bu girls. You can do like what mongols did. Kill just the useless men and ugly women. The ones that can benefit, keep them.
Can use their girls as my toilet cleaners. That's all they are good for.. Lazy fucks.. It's quite a big dilemma to classify ugly men from handsome ones as all of them appear like fucking lizards to me.
That's how they appear and look like
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