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MSK was Complacent?

cheekenpie

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Wiggle through a window, dance across a roof, walk all the way to the north shore, swim across with improvised floatation device ... and then choose to stay at the same bloody spot so close to Singapore for 1 whole year.

Singaporeans weren't complacent, MSK was!!
 

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So with this mini-story. Our leaders are teaching us not to be complacent !

Yes, don be complacent, and make sure you got plenty of friends.

Sun, May 10, 2009
The Straits Times
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Help from 2 Johor friends

Kuala Lumpur - A desperate Mas Selamat Kastari could find only two friends willing to help him hide after he escaped from the Whitley Road Detention Centre last year and swam the 1km across to a Johor beach.

Abdul Matin Anol Rahmat and Johar Hassan came to the Singaporean terrorist's aid, police sources said. All others shunned him.

The two men gave him shelter for free for more than a year in a secluded kampung house in Skudai. For that, they were arrested on April 1, the same day police nabbed Mas Selamat while he was sound asleep.

Soon after entering Johor from Singapore, the alleged chief of the Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) militant group in Singapore met with his two trusted friends.


This according to a report by Bernama.


It quoted a source saying: "Soon after swimming from Woodlands, Singapore, Mas Selamat went to Ulu Tiram to look for Matin, believed to be a JI ordinary member."


The source added that throughout his time in Johor, the JI chief was believed to have been in contact only with these two trusted friends.


Mas Selamat had also planned to flee to southern Philippines or Indonesia but did not go ahead with it, thinking he was safe in Johor, the source said

Bernama's source, who said he was familiar with the operation to nab Singapore's most wanted man, added that Mas Selamat did not know was that he was also being already shadowed.

'Less destroyed than we thought'

The report also quoted the source refuting a previous comment that International Crisis Group analyst Sidney Jones had made in a report in The Straits Times.

The international think tank staff had said that Mas Selamat's year-long concealment in Malaysia "suggested the JI network in Malaysia may be less destroyed than we thought".

However, the Bernama's source had dismissed Mr Jones' comment as "illogical and unacceptable" and shared his doubts as to whether the analyst had a clear grasp to the JI situation in Malaysia.


'Bad swimmer, but a survivor'

Jakarta - A convicted Singaporean terrorist (top right) who knew Mas Selamat Kastari from the days when both were on the run said yesterday that the Jemaah Islamiah (JI) leader was a 'bad swimmer'.

But he was also a determined survivor, added Mohammad Hassan Saynudin, who is serving time here for killing a Christian school teacher and planning terrorist attacks in Indonesia.

Hassan, at one time a leader of the Singapore JI, was convicted last month and given an 18-year jail sentence.
 

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So with this mini-story. Our leaders are teaching us not to be complacent !

The most complacent people are those that keep telling us not to be complacent.

Starting from Pinky clown price to Wong can't Sink

He and His home team is complacent to start off with.

Sinkies is complacent to vote in a gov that destroy all check and balance and is not transparent.
 

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according to wanbao, someone fr s'pore saw mas selling ramlee burger at pasar malam johor ... how come this person didnt report him since theres $1 million to collect ?
 

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if MSK was complacent, he would've been caught much earlier. i speculate that he's already completed this tour of malaysia. maybe he could qualify to be the next m'sia tourism spokesperons "m'sia, truly asia".

i think he already completed his to-do list, so decided to go johor for some "entertainment"
 

cheekenpie

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if MSK was complacent, he would've been caught much earlier. i speculate that he's already completed this tour of malaysia. maybe he could qualify to be the next m'sia tourism spokesperons "m'sia, truly asia".

i think he already completed his to-do list, so decided to go johor for some "entertainment"


Mon, May 11, 2009
The Star/Asia News Network

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Police arrest Mas Selamat's landlord

JOHOR BARU, MALAYSIA - The landlord of the house where fugitive Mas Selamat Kastari was caught hiding in was arrested last week at his work place.

Villagers at Kampung Tawakal said the man, known as Johar, was a contractor.

They described him as the "quiet type," just like Mas Selamat.

Many believed that it was Johar who had tipped off police about Mas Selamat's whereabouts.

Villagers said that it was hard to keep track of people living in the area as many of the houses were rented out to tenants who kept moving out.

Shopkeeper Roslan Talib, 39, said Johar often came to buy groceries from his shop.

"I heard that Mas Selamat often went fishing at the canal behind his house," he said.

Rsolan said that it was a pity he did not know Mas Selamat lived nearby or they would have reported him to get the S$1mil (RM2.4mil) reward offered for his arrest.

The hunt for Mas Selamat, 48, began after the head of the Singapore Jemaah Islamiah escaped the Whitley Road Detention Centre in Singapore while on a toilet break on Feb 27, last year.

This sparked a massive regional hunt for the militant who is suspected to have planned various terror plots, including crashing a plane into Changi airport in Singpaore as well as attacking different targets, such as the American Embassy and the Singapore American School.

He was previously jailed in Bintan for using a fake identity card and was handed over to Singapore in 2006 for detention under the Internal Security Act without trial.

The Star/Asia News Network
 

cheekenpie

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The most complacent people are those that keep telling us not to be complacent.

Starting from Pinky clown price to Wong can't Sink

He and His home team is complacent to start off with.

Sinkies is complacent to vote in a gov that destroy all check and balance and is not transparent.

Eh? If everyone complacent then who not complacent?
 

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according to wanbao, someone fr s'pore saw mas selling ramlee burger at pasar malam johor ... how come this person didnt report him since theres $1 million to collect ?

That person must be kicking himself hard now. Let a S$1m cheque slipped off his pocket.
 

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Kuala Lumpur - A desperate Mas Selamat Kastari could find only two friends willing to help him hide after he escaped from the Whitley Road Detention Centre last year and swam the 1km across to a Johor beach.

Abdul Matin Anol Rahmat and Johar Hassan came to the Singaporean terrorist's aid, police sources said. All others shunned him.

My theory could be right after all. MSD and ISD collaborated and let MSK escaped to Malaysia so that they can find those JI sleepers in JB. But to get only 2 might be a little disappointing after WKS and ISD taking so much flake for the "great escape".
 

cheekenpie

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according to wanbao, someone fr s'pore saw mas selling ramlee burger at pasar malam johor ... how come this person didnt report him since theres $1 million to collect ?

From Singapore? You sure?

hahaha... maybe jayakumar hope over for nice relaxing day.
 

cheekenpie

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My theory could be right after all. MSD and ISD collaborated and let MSK escaped to Malaysia so that they can find those JI sleepers in JB. But to get only 2 might be a little disappointing after WKS and ISD taking so much flake for the "great escape".

Actually if singaporean really got help i think they wont announce just yet.

Must arrest and see who else forms part of this network mah. But then if later reveal we will say WKS lie again. lol
 

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The house in Kampung Tawakal in Skudai, Johor, where Mas Selamat led a secluded life for the past few months until his sudden arrest last month. — MEERA VIJAYAN / The Star
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Snug refuge: This is the interior of the lower part of the house, where Mas Selamat spent most of his time
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My theory could be right after all. MSD and ISD collaborated and let MSK escaped to Malaysia so that they can find those JI sleepers in JB. But to get only 2 might be a little disappointing after WKS and ISD taking so much flake for the "great escape".

haha, conspiracy theory ... but u could be right ... thats why so much secrecy surrounding the whole business, while ST/MHA has to make up stupid stories like - i quote the 1st poster --'Wiggle through a window, dance across a roof, walk all the way to the north shore, swim across with improvised floatation device ... and then choose to stay at the same bloody spot so close to Singapore for 1 whole year'.

only an idiot will believe such nonsense and the govt thinks s'poreans will swallow this hook line & sinker ... little do they realise s'poreans are smarter than that ! :rolleyes:
 

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This useless bumb was not even feeding his family, how to be a good martyr?

Inside the mind of Mas Selamat and his ilk

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By Zakir Hussain

Neither his years in detention nor life on the run quenched his zeal for his cause.

When Mas Selamat Kastari was arrested in Johor on April 1, he was still plotting attacks on Singapore, a mark of the hardcore extremism that characterised him.

In Jemaah Islamiah (JI) circles, the regional leader of the terrorist group was admired for being ambitious and ruthless.

Friends of his family, however, thought less of him.

They were upset that the former bus mechanic, who joined JI around 1990, was often out of a job. As a result, his wife and five children often went hungry.

He spent time in Indonesian prisons before being handed over to the Singapore authorities in 2006.

He was detained for two years in the Whitley Road Detention Centre prior to his escape in February last year.

Unlike other JI detainees, he was not put on a programme of religious rehabilitation because the Ministry of Home Affairs judged that he was not ready.

It was an indication of how firmly he clung to his extremist views.

Ustaz Ali Haji Mohamed, the co-chairman of the Religious Rehabilitation Group (RRG), said a radical like Mas Selamat would have been so deeply indoctrinated that his grievances would have crystallised into beliefs that he would be willing to pursue, regardless of the cost.

Such extremists also believe that all other Muslims are wrong, and that only those who walk their path of violence are true believers.

The feeling of hatred against non-Muslims and Muslims who work against him is also deeply embedded, said Ustaz Ali.


Singapore aims to rehabilitate as many of its security detainees as possible.

To date, two-thirds of the 60 detainees arrested here since 2001 for terrorist activities have been released after rehabilitation.

So far, none has strayed back. Some have returned to society for four years or more.

However, another 20 remain in detention, including 'hardcore' JI members who have not renounced their views.

As Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew noted last year in a book by the RRG marking its fifth anniversary: 'You cannot keep the detainees locked up. That is not the solution. The solution is to put them right, and so they become normal Muslims again and their families lead normal lives.'

He noted that some 26 of those arrested in the first two sweeps in 2001 and 2002 have been released.

'But six have still not been convinced. They have stuck to their guns, especially the leader of the JI group (Ibrahim Maidin). They are just standing firm.

'They are convinced that they are right. Nothing seems to be able to change their beliefs. So, we have to live with this problem, and they just have to stay detained,' he added.

Given the difficulties of rehabilitating a hardcore terrorist like Mas Selamat, it is likely that he will be detained indefinitely.

His conversion to extremism took place around 1990, after he heard Indonesian cleric Abu Jibril preach in Johor.

In 1992, he joined the Singapore JI cell. Over the next five years, he visited Afghanistan twice.

In 1999, he was hand-picked by JI operations chief Hambali - now in United States custody in Guantanamo Bay - to lead the Singapore cell.

Two years later, Mas Selamat fled Singapore when the Government began cracking down on JI members for plotting attacks against Western embassies and military personnel here.


Dr Kumar Ramakrishna, who heads the Centre of Excellence for National Security at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, explains why the current mechanisms for rehabilitation are unlikely to work in Mas Selamat's case.

'In my own view, he would likely and sadly consider the Muslim scholars who attempt to counsel him as sold-out hypocrites who should be totally ignored,' he said.

However, if a JI leader who is more senior were to renounce violence, there is a chance that Mas Selamat may be willing to listen.

'If Hambali actually does turn, this would be show-stopping and make him, potentially, a most influential person for both individual rehabilitation and community counter-radicalisation efforts in South-east Asia,' Dr Kumar said.

Several years ago, when Mas Selamat was in prison in Indonesia, reformed JI leader Nasir Abas tried to meet him to persuade him to mend his ways.

But Mas Selamat refused to meet Mr Nasir.

Dr Kumar has not had a chance to view any documents on the deep background of Mas Selamat and finds it hard to pin down his path to radicalisation.

But based on what is known about the JI leader, he said it was possible that Mas Selamat was driven by fear that the group he most closely identifies with, in this case Muslims, is under threat.

Psychological studies show that when individuals perceive, rightly or wrongly, that their group is under threat, they tend to strike back, often resulting in ethnic cleansing, war or terrorism, Dr Kumar said.

He said Mas Selamat seems to define himself primarily as a Muslim first and last, and likely hates Singapore because he perceives 'that his Muslim 'group tent' is under existential threat both in Singapore and globally'.

'He may have experienced some form of personal setback or setbacks in his life which prompted him to seek greater refuge in religion, and this is where at some point he perceived some form of religious marginalisation that rendered him vulnerable to JI ideology,' he added.

Dr Kumar explained that the JI ideology, with its strong us-

versus-them world view, would have reinforced Mas Selamat's desire to right perceived wrongs and 'religiously legitimised the hate he feels toward Singapore and its close international friends, particularly the US and Israel'.

'It is important to realise that in his own mind, Mas Selamat thinks he is a hero standing up against the 'evil system' that 'oppresses' Muslims in Singapore and worldwide,' he said.

RRG member Ustaz Mohd Ibrahim Mohd Kassim notes that such misdirected sentiments are not held by the majority of Muslim Singaporeans.

And many of the JI detainees who held this view have come around to see where they have been misled by JI teachings.

But Mas Selamat has not been moved.

Said Dr Kumar: 'He probably really is convinced he is one of the 'good guys' whose 'eyes have been opened' to the actual plight of his Muslim brothers. This is why he seems so motivated.'

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