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Mother Joins Son's Cult. SILLY?

makapaaa

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Keep an open mind even if you live by thou-shalt-nots
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->I refer to the letter by Mr Winston Chin, 'I'd rather live by the thou-shalt-nots', published last Sunday. In it, he referred to a piece titled 'Church pastors like none other', published in The Sunday Times on Oct 5, which had featured the founders of two of Singapore's so-called megachurches: New Creation Church (NCC) and City Harvest Church.
I find it sad that Mr Chin felt the report had confirmed his observations and views of the two churches.
Just as it takes time and effort to get to know a person, it takes time and effort to get to know a church, its pastors and the doctrines they expound. An open mind and a non-judgmental attitude are also prerequisites.
Let me state from the outset that my husband and I are members of a traditional church. However, for the past few months, we have been visitors at NCC. We wanted to observe the services first-hand, so we could establish if the doctrines being expounded were biblical. This was because our son was keen to join NCC as a member.
We had obviously heard disturbing talk about NCC and Pastor Joseph Prince. However, we did not want to rely on hearsay. Instead, we wanted to make a fair and objective assessment.
No church or organisation is perfect - not NCC nor the church that my husband and I belong to. What mattered to us was which doctrines were being taught and who was being glorified.
We are sorry to disappoint the critics of NCC.
Over the past few months, we have not heard Pastor Prince glorify himself. His bible-based messages constantly focus on God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
In one sermon, he noted that he would have failed in his task if NCC members went away saying he was a great speaker. He considers his job done only when they say Jesus has been glorified during his sermon.
Mr Chin's letter does, however, serve a very useful purpose for the two megachurches. It warns of the perils that can surface when large, successful churches let their guard down and lose their focus.
Christie Loh (Ms)
 

eeoror88

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Keep an open mind even if you live by thou-shalt-nots
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><!-- show image if available --></TBODY></TABLE>




<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->I refer to the letter by Mr Winston Chin, 'I'd rather live by the thou-shalt-nots', published last Sunday. In it, he referred to a piece titled 'Church pastors like none other', published in The Sunday Times on Oct 5, which had featured the founders of two of Singapore's so-called megachurches: New Creation Church (NCC) and City Harvest Church.
I find it sad that Mr Chin felt the report had confirmed his observations and views of the two churches.
Just as it takes time and effort to get to know a person, it takes time and effort to get to know a church, its pastors and the doctrines they expound. An open mind and a non-judgmental attitude are also prerequisites.
Let me state from the outset that my husband and I are members of a traditional church. However, for the past few months, we have been visitors at NCC. We wanted to observe the services first-hand, so we could establish if the doctrines being expounded were biblical. This was because our son was keen to join NCC as a member.
We had obviously heard disturbing talk about NCC and Pastor Joseph Prince. However, we did not want to rely on hearsay. Instead, we wanted to make a fair and objective assessment.
No church or organisation is perfect - not NCC nor the church that my husband and I belong to. What mattered to us was which doctrines were being taught and who was being glorified.
We are sorry to disappoint the critics of NCC.
Over the past few months, we have not heard Pastor Prince glorify himself. His bible-based messages constantly focus on God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
In one sermon, he noted that he would have failed in his task if NCC members went away saying he was a great speaker. He considers his job done only when they say Jesus has been glorified during his sermon.
Mr Chin's letter does, however, serve a very useful purpose for the two megachurches. It warns of the perils that can surface when large, successful churches let their guard down and lose their focus.
Christie Loh (Ms)

Wow .... must really salute .... the Prince of all cons ....:eek:
 

skndr

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I have heard Prince's sermon before.
My description to listening to the message is akin to reading The New Paper.

New Paper: Easy to read, no facts, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.
Prince's sermon: Easy to listen, make a few scripture reference, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.
 

Conan the Barbarian

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Give a customer what they want, not what you have.

If the customer wants to hear something that justifies their actions,
then the "preacher" should do that and not give them some sermon
on "its harder for a rich man to go to heaven than a camel to go
thru the eye of the needle" stuff.
 

shOUTloud

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I have heard Prince's sermon before.
My description to listening to the message is akin to reading The New Paper.

New Paper: Easy to read, no facts, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.
Prince's sermon: Easy to listen, make a few scripture reference, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.

Well. If he is too meaty with constant damnations and exhortations of sinners (like TylerDurden and TeeKee) going to hell, dun think many pple will be attending the church leow.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED. duh
 

tate

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Christie Loh (Ms)

Why does a married woman sign off as a Ms?

Shouldn't it be Mrs (never mind about the maiden thing unless a woman find it shameful to use the husband family name)
 

halsey02

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I have heard Prince's sermon before.
My description to listening to the message is akin to reading The New Paper.

New Paper: Easy to read, no facts, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.
Prince's sermon: Easy to listen, make a few scripture reference, just story-telling, no real stuff, not meaty.

It is these kind of preacher that fills the pew overflowing with people, but not heaven! Quality or quantity!, you judge!
 

TeeKee

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It is these kind of preacher that fills the pew overflowing with people, but not heaven! Quality or quantity!, you judge!

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Neh_Neh_Pok

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This video is once posted by bro drifter, check it out :biggrin:

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TeeKee

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This video is once posted by bro drifter, check it out :biggrin:

this is in response to your video!

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