Missionaries that visited China said Hokkien province Quanzhou city was twice as great as Bologna, one of the best places in the world, incredible etc

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https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/polo/marco/travels/book2.82.html

Friar Odoric (in China, circa 1323–1327, who travelled apparently by land from Chin-kalán, i.e. Canton) says: “Passing through many cities and towns, I came to a certain noble city which is called Zayton, where we Friars Minor have two Houses. . . . In this city is great plenty of all things that are needful for human subsistence. For example, you can get three pounds and eight ounces of sugar for less than half a groat. The city is twice as great as Bologna, and in it are many monasteries of devotees, idol-worshippers every man of them. In one of those monasteries which I visited there were 3000 monks. . . . The place is one of the best in the world. . . .

 

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Andrew of Perugia, another Franciscan, was Bishop of Zayton from 1322, having resided there from 1318. In 1326 he writes a letter home, in which he speaks of the place as “a great city on the shores of the Ocean Sea, which is called in the Persian tongue Cayton (Çayton); and in this city a rich Armenian lady did build a large and fine enough church, which was erected into a cathedral by the Archbishop,” and so on. He speaks incidentally of the Genoese merchants frequenting it.

 

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John Marignolli, who was there about 1347, calls it “a wondrous fine sea-port, and a city of incredible size, where our Minor Friars have three very fine churches; . . . and they have a bath also, and a fondaco which serves as a depôt for all the merchants.”

 

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Ibn Batuta about the same time says: “The first city that I reached after crossing the sea was ZAITÚN. . . . It is a great city, superb indeed; and in it they make damasks of velvet as well as those of satin (Kimkhá and Atlás), which are called from the name of the city Zatúníah; they are superior to the stuffs of Khansá and Khárbálik. The harbour of Zaitún is one of the greatest in the world — I am wrong; it is thegreatest! I have seen there about an hundred first-class junks together; as for small ones, they were past counting. The harbour is formed by an estuary which runs inland from the sea until it joins the Great River.”

 

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Rashiduddin, in enumerating the Sings or great provincial governments of the empire, has the following: “7th FUCHÚ. — This is a city of Manzi. The Sing was formerly located at ZAITÚN, but afterwards established here, where it still remains. Zaitún is a great shipping-port, and the commandant there is Boháuddin Kandári.” Pauthier’s Chinese extracts show us that the seat of the Sing was, in 1281, at T’swan-chau, but was then transferred to Fu-chau. In 1282 it was removed back to T’swan-chau, and in 1283 recalled to Fu-chau. That is to say, what the Persian writer tells us of Fújú and Zayton, the Chinese Annalists tell us of Fu-chau and T’swan-chau. Therefore Fuju and Zayton were respectively Fu-chau and T’swan-chau.

 

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The city is twice as great as Bologna,

Ya that’s what Hokkien Quanzhou city was before Ming Dynasty 200 year sea ban crap!

 

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The place is one of the best in the world. .

Hokkien Quanzhou before Ming Dynasty!

 

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a wondrous fine sea-port, and a city of incredible size,

Hokkien Quanzhou city was wondrous and incredible before Ming Dynasty.

 

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The harbour of Zaitún is one of the greatest in the world — I am wrong; it is thegreatest! I have seen there about an hundred first-class junks together; as for small ones, they were past counting.

Hokkien Quanzhou port was the greatest in the world then before Ming emperor stupid sea ban!

 

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So why end up so many Hokkien emigrants as poor coolies to Spore Malaya etc in 18xx when Hokkien province was the greatest port and one of the best cities in the world in 13xx before Ming Dynasty? Of course it’s everything to do with smart and clever Ming and Qing emperors sabotaging Hokkiens with closed country policies.

 

[AhMeng]

so many Hokkien emigrants as poor coolies to Spore Malaya

So you must have genes of poor coolies. Coolie genes like you no wonder so vulgar and spew vulgarities like a Hokkien sailor ... Lol

 

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So you must have genes of poor coolies. Coolie genes like you no wonder so vulgar and spew vulgarities like a Hokkien sailor ... Lol

Why not? Who come out from China then was not coolie? Your grandfather generation was still coolie working in Pahang rubber plantation worker. Don’t tell me he was plantation manager hahaha

 

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Why not? Who come out from China then was not coolie? Your grandfather generation was still coolie working in Pahang rubber plantation worker. Don’t tell me he was plantation manager hahaha

Oh ya @AhMeng grandfather generation still coolie rubber plantation worker whereas my mother’s adopted father’s father already rich enough to lose his wealth in stock market then hahaha

 

[AhMeng]

Why not? Who come out from China then was not coolie? Your grandfather generation was still coolie working in Pahang rubber plantation worker. Don’t tell me he was plantation manager hahaha

And you believe?

 

[AhMeng]

Oh ya @AhMeng grandfather generation still coolie rubber plantation worker whereas my mother’s adopted father’s father already rich enough to lose his wealth in stock market then hahaha

OK..I got lubber genes. Lol

 

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And you believe?

Of course your grandfather was a poor coolie rubber plantation worker like what you admitted last time to be from poor stock hahaha

 

[AhMeng]

Of course your grandfather was a poor coolie rubber plantation worker like what you admitted last time to be from poor stock hahaha

Hokay...

 

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OK..I got lubber genes. Lol

Coolie rubber genes hahaha

 

[AhMeng]

Coolie rubber genes hahaha

Without me, there isn't condom for this world you know...

Lubber is good

 

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Oh ya @AhMeng grandfather generation still coolie rubber plantation worker whereas my mother’s adopted father’s father already rich enough to lose his wealth in stock market then hahaha

And my mother’s adopted father was REAL smart and clever to rebuild the wealth to become a plantation owner hahaha.