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Missing Front Volume Of Condor Heroes

Ramseth

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Legend Of Condor Heroes has been enacted on TV drama series at least two rounds already from 1980s to 2000s. However, it'd been always the Back Volume beginning with the origins of Guo Jing and Yang Guo.

The full novel comprises two volumes, with the Front Volume beginning with the origins of Wang Chongyang, Huang Yaoshi, Ouyang Feng, Duan Zhengchun and Hong Qigong culminating at Huangshan Lunjian. How come TV drama series producers never seem want to do that part?
 

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I thought Legend of Condor Heroes, Return of Condor Heroes and Yi Tian Tu Long Ji? got 1 before Legend of Condor Heroes meh? :confused::confused:
 

Ramseth

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I thought Legend of Condor Heroes, Return of Condor Heroes and Yi Tian Tu Long Ji? got 1 before Legend of Condor Heroes meh? :confused::confused:

Of course. The story started with Wang Chongyang when he was young, how he founded Quanzhen Sect with Senile Retard Zhou Botong, and how the rest of the East Demon, West Venom, South King and North Beggar mastered their skills and ended up in Huashang Lunjian. Zhou Botong was there as observer.

That's why the Senile Retard martial arts so good. Later after Wang Chongyang won, he went Dali kingdom to teach King Duan the Yiyangzhi, cause he think he's a righteous man and the Senile Retard couldn't be trusted to upkeep the skill and legacy.

Whilst Wang and Duan were practising their Yiyangzhi, the Senile Retard went to fuck around with a Duan concubine. :eek: :biggrin:
 

Alamaking

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Of course. The story started with Wang Chongyang when he was young, how he founded Quanzhen Sect with Senile Retard Zhou Botong, and how the rest of the East Demon, West Venom, South King and North Beggar mastered their skills and ended up in Huashang Lunjian. Zhou Botong was there as observer.

That's why the Senile Retard martial arts so good. Later after Wang Chongyang won, he went Dali kingdom to teach King Duan the Yiyangzhi, cause he think he's a righteous man and the Senile Retard couldn't be trusted to upkeep the skill and legacy.

Whilst Wang and Duan were practising their Yiyangzhi, the Senile Retard went to fuck around with a Duan concubine. :eek: :biggrin:
So Tian Long Ba Bu is which volume? :confused::confused:
 

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How come TV drama series producers never seem want to do that part?

I think the very early version from HongKong TVB has that part (dubbed in cantonese), in fact three parts if I remember correctly. You can watch it at tudou.com if you have time. Mediacorp sucks big time couple with lots of commercials.
 

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The full novel comprises two volumes, with the Front Volume beginning with the origins of Wang Chongyang, Huang Yaoshi, Ouyang Feng, Duan Zhengchun and Hong Qigong culminating at Huangshan Lunjian. How come TV drama series producers never seem want to do that part?

I never read the novel.

What happened during Huangshan Lunjian, why did Wang Chongyang finally emerged victorious?
Was Wang above those 4 in marital arts or he was just lucky that day?
 

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Legend Of Condor Heroes has been enacted on TV drama series at least two rounds already from 1980s to 2000s. However, it'd been always the Back Volume beginning with the origins of Guo Jing and Yang Guo.

The full novel comprises two volumes, with the Front Volume beginning with the origins of Wang Chongyang, Huang Yaoshi, Ouyang Feng, Duan Zhengchun and Hong Qigong culminating at Huangshan Lunjian. How come TV drama series producers never seem want to do that part?

That's a fake piece of garbage written by some shameless prick looking to profit from Jin Yong's success. Can't you tell the difference?

It's like asking why you can't find a fake China-made jPhone in the Apple Store.
 
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Tianlong Babu is after Shendiao Xialu, the revisitation and continuation of the Yiyangzhi legacy in the Duan royal family.

Geez, it's amazing how little history S'poreans know.

Tian Long Ba Bu was set in the Northern Song dynasty. How could one tell? Among other things, the series devoted hundreds of pages to the Khitan Empire. Even Daozong emperor (i.e. Yelu Hongji, 1032–1101), was himself a substantial character — Qiao Feng served as his governor of the Southern Chancellery (Nan Yuan Da Wang).

Shen Diao Xia Lu was set in the time when the Southern Song dynasty was coming to an end. How could one tell? Mongke Khan (1209–1259), Genghis Khan's grandson, was then the Emperor of the Mongolian Empire in the story. In fact, the final battle of the novel culminated with Yang Guo killing Mongke with a rock.

The story in Tian Long occurred at least a hundred years <b>before</b> the story in Shen Diao.
 

Alamaking

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I remember in Legend of Condor Heroes, the Mongolians help the Song to ward off the Khitans?

Ni Kuang added at least 40,000 words in the story of Tian Long Ba Bu
 

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Legend Of Condor Heroes has been enacted on TV drama series at least two rounds already from 1980s to 2000s. However, it'd been always the Back Volume beginning with the origins of Guo Jing and Yang Guo.

The full novel comprises two volumes, with the Front Volume beginning with the origins of Wang Chongyang, Huang Yaoshi, Ouyang Feng, Duan Zhengchun and Hong Qigong culminating at Huangshan Lunjian. How come TV drama series producers never seem want to do that part?
front volume u mean 射雕英雄传前传? ... dat 1 got men oni ... no women ... no charbor 2 watch, lidat who want 2 watch ze tv version? ... :confused:
 

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I remember in Legend of Condor Heroes, the Mongolians help the Song to ward off the Khitans?

Nope. The Mongols formed an alliance with Song to fight the Jurchens &mdash; these were the ancestors of Manchurians who later founded the Qing Dynasty.

At that time the Khitan Empire had long been annihilated by an earlier alliance between Song and Jurchens. The only Khitans mentioned in She Diao and Shen Diao were all on the side of Song (Yelu Qi, Yelu Yan) or Mongol (Yelu Chucai, a genuine historical figure).

Jin Yong has been remarkably accurate when it comes to historical details.
 

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The Shediao QianZhuan and HouZhuan looked so boring. I had them for years and did not bother to read.
 

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Tianlong Babu is after Shendiao Xialu, the revisitation and continuation of the Yiyangzhi legacy in the Duan royal family.

U got the whole thing wrong. 天龙八部 is much earlier than 射雕英雄传, and 一阳指 is 段家 exclusive martial arts. In 射雕英雄传, 南帝 broke his family rule and impart it to 中神通 to counter 西毒蛤蟆功。
 

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Jin Yong has been remarkably accurate when it comes to historical details.

Jin Yong was never historical accurate.

Zhu Yuanzhang (White Lotus sect) became Ming sect and Quanzhen priest Qiu Chuji who died same year as Genghis Khan in 1227 was in The Return of the Condor Heroes story in 1267, 40 years later.
 

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U got the whole thing wrong. 天龙八部 is much earlier than 射雕英雄传, and 一阳指 is 段家 exclusive martial arts. In 射雕英雄传, 南帝 broke his family rule and impart it to 中神通 to counter 西毒蛤蟆功。

think he probably meant Jin Yong wrote 射雕英雄传 first and 天龙八部 later.
 

Alamaking

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Talking about 天龙八部, apart from Qiaofeng, Xu Zhu and Duan Yu story. There's another side of the story involves Xu Zhu's 逍遥派.

逍遥子. 李沧海. 李秋水, 天山童姥 were mentioned in 天龙八部 also. So can 1 say 天龙八部 got 2 stories? :confused::confused:
 
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