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[Malaysia] - Mahathir versus Johor Crown Prince

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Mahathir : "Johor Crown Prince is not above the law, if he makes seditious statements we will take action against him!"
Johor Crown Prince : "If you think I've said anything seditious, bring it on!"

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=johor+crown+prince+not+above+the+law+bring+it+on




Mahathir & Johor royalty fighting over who has more power over new Johor Chief Minister appointment

https://mothership.sg/2019/04/mahathir-johor-sultan-chief-minister-role-political-decision/

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Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has stated categorically that the appointment of the new Johor Chief Minister would be a political decision.

The role has been vacated following the announcement that Osman Sapian has stepped down.

Mahathir said on April 10 the role of appointing the new mentri besar lies with the political party that won the election, not with the Sultan of Johor.

“It will take some time to appoint an acting mentri besar of Johor. We will try to appoint one as soon as possible,” Mahathir said.

“We have a few candidates we have to trace; very quickly, we will find him.”

When pressed if it was the Sultan of Johor who would be appointing the chief minister or acting chief minister, Mahathir said: “This is a political decision.”

Johor Mentri Besar Osman Sapian resigned from the post on Monday, April 8.

Following that announcement, Mahathir said the replacement must come from his Bersatu party.

Sahruddin, the state Health, Environment and Agriculture Committee chairman, is widely regarded as the front-runner.

But the other Pakatan Harapan coalition parties have also nominated their assemblymen for the top post.

How exactly did Osman only last 11 months as chief minister is still anyone’s guess.

This was especially after the Johor Crown Prince, Ismail Sultan Ibrahim, wrote on Twitter on April 9 that his father the sultan ordered the change of chief.

His father, Johor Sultan Ibrahim Iskandar, had supposedly decreed that the state’s chief minister be changed — which has been construed as intervening with political decision-making and a direct challenge to Mahathir.

Ismail Sultan Ibrahim also tweeted that the appointment of the Johor mentri besar was the absolute right of the state ruler — which is contrary to Mahathir’s stance that the chief minister is a political appointee.

The crown prince also tweeted that he warned that the new chief minister better not be a “yes man” to Putrajaya.

The crown prince went even further by saying that Osman’s departure was the doing of the Johor sultan.

Ismail Sultan Ibrahim wrote: “The welfare of the people and well-being of the state must always be a priority,” he wrote in his official Twitter account, adding that a decree to change the mentri besar had been ongoing for a while.”

“But somebody else is taking the credit and mileage, claiming that he ordered it.”

“His Majesty (Sultan Ibrahim) has reviewed to change the mentri besar months ago.”

Before his resignation, Osman’s performance was seen as unsatisfactory — to whom in particular, is still up for debate.

https://mothership.sg/2019/04/mahathir-johor-sultan-chief-minister-role-political-decision/
 
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The crown prince thinks the monarch rule the state. Under najib and badawi, the monarchs have started to seek concessions for sand export, timber, independent power producer, construction of gahmen projects etc.
I do not know if they pay taxes on profits.
In the case of independent power producer, they got the license, but parrtner must foot the construction and operating cost for 51% of the share.
 
You need both to them to rein in the crazy extremist Muslim clerics.
 
Lets watch the free show with cashew nuts and Bacardi coke.
 
Crown prince and the sultan have no chance against dr m. He can start tax investigation. Sale of and acquiring state land by monarchs. Licenses issued to monarchs for sand mining and export to sinkie.investigate how current sultan step mom ( 2nd wife to sultan's father) was disinherited and banished. Investigate several beating invident by crown prince.........
 
Mahathir & Johor royalty fighting over who has more power over new Johor Chief Minister appointment

https://mothership.sg/2019/04/mahathir-johor-sultan-chief-minister-role-political-decision/

mahathir-ibrahim-iskandar.jpg


Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has stated categorically that the appointment of the new Johor Chief Minister would be a political decision.

The role has been vacated following the announcement that Osman Sapian has stepped down.

Mahathir said on April 10 the role of appointing the new mentri besar lies with the political party that won the election, not with the Sultan of Johor.

“It will take some time to appoint an acting mentri besar of Johor. We will try to appoint one as soon as possible,” Mahathir said.

“We have a few candidates we have to trace; very quickly, we will find him.”

When pressed if it was the Sultan of Johor who would be appointing the chief minister or acting chief minister, Mahathir said: “This is a political decision.”

Johor Mentri Besar Osman Sapian resigned from the post on Monday, April 8.

Following that announcement, Mahathir said the replacement must come from his Bersatu party.

Sahruddin, the state Health, Environment and Agriculture Committee chairman, is widely regarded as the front-runner.

But the other Pakatan Harapan coalition parties have also nominated their assemblymen for the top post.

How exactly did Osman only last 11 months as chief minister is still anyone’s guess.

This was especially after the Johor Crown Prince, Ismail Sultan Ibrahim, wrote on Twitter on April 9 that his father the sultan ordered the change of chief.

His father, Johor Sultan Ibrahim Iskandar, had supposedly decreed that the state’s chief minister be changed — which has been construed as intervening with political decision-making and a direct challenge to Mahathir.

Ismail Sultan Ibrahim also tweeted that the appointment of the Johor mentri besar was the absolute right of the state ruler — which is contrary to Mahathir’s stance that the chief minister is a political appointee.

The crown prince also tweeted that he warned that the new chief minister better not be a “yes man” to Putrajaya.

The crown prince went even further by saying that Osman’s departure was the doing of the Johor sultan.

Ismail Sultan Ibrahim wrote: “The welfare of the people and well-being of the state must always be a priority,” he wrote in his official Twitter account, adding that a decree to change the mentri besar had been ongoing for a while.”

“But somebody else is taking the credit and mileage, claiming that he ordered it.”

“His Majesty (Sultan Ibrahim) has reviewed to change the mentri besar months ago.”

Before his resignation, Osman’s performance was seen as unsatisfactory — to whom in particular, is still up for debate.

https://mothership.sg/2019/04/mahathir-johor-sultan-chief-minister-role-political-decision/
 
Sg we have the Lee infighting. Mudland inspired to do likewise ?
 
syed putra said:
Crown prince and the sultan have no chance against dr m. He can start tax investigation. Sale of and acquiring state land by monarchs. Licenses issued to monarchs for sand mining and export to sinkie.investigate how current sultan step mom ( 2nd wife to sultan's father) was disinherited and banished. Investigate several beating invident by crown prince.........
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Yes I agree the monarch will have their work out for them if they go head on with Dr M.
Dun forget Dr M singlehandedly curtailed their powers back in the 90s.
 
zhihau said:
Sabah and Sarawak should do likewise, what do you think? :coffee::coffee::coffee:
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Yes if these 3 states secede mudland is fucked. N to me the more fuck up mudland become, the better for singkieland. We just need to be economically independent from mudland n let mudland go backwards. We don't need a competitor at our doorstep like in airport n ports etc.
 
all that posturing.. going to prepare my popcorn and watch the show. end of the day it's a popularity contest for them all.
 
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JOHOR BAHRU: The Sultan of Johor Ibrahim Iskandar on Wednesday (Apr 10) hit out at what he believed was interference in the southern state’s affairs, amid a lack of consensus over the nomination process for a new chief minister following the resignation of Mr Osman Sapian.

The ruler's remarks came after Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said the appointment of a new chief minister will be decided by the party which won the elections and not the royal family.

In a Facebook post, the sultan said that he is out of the country but following developments closely.

“I want certain parties to stop making so much noise and quarrel about politics, and to focus on taking care of the country instead,” he wrote.


He added: “As for Johor, don’t meddle in the state’s affairs because this sovereign state still has a sultan.”

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“I will make the best decision for my people when the time comes.”

This drew a sharp response from the prime minister.

“I am of the opinion that if we assume that those who chose PMs and chief ministers were the monarchs, we will no longer be a democratic country anymore," Dr Mahathir was quoted as saying by Malay Mail.

“We would be a country with an absolute monarchy."

Earlier in the day, he said the government hopes to appoint an acting chief minister as soon as possible.

“We have to decide on the candidate. There are several candidates ... it will take a little bit of time but very quickly we will find (the individual),” he said.

"The Sultan (of Johor) has got no role. The role is for the party that won the election to determine who leads."

Mr Osman resigned on Monday. An earlier report by New Straits Times quoted sources saying that Pakatan Harapan leaders were not satisfied with his performance as the state’s chief minister.

Leaders from his own party, Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia, were also said to be unimpressed with how he handled the controversy surrounding his academic qualifications.

READ: Johor Chief Minister admits he does not have a degree, apologises to Malaysians for ‘misunderstanding’

On Tuesday, Crown Prince Ismail Sultan Ibrahim wrote on Twitter that it was his father who gave the order to change the top man in the state.


“His Majesty has looked into changing the chief minister since months ago. Don’t forget, the power to appoint the chief minister is the sultan’s absolute right,” he said.

The crown prince said he hoped the new chief minister would not be a mere “yes-man” to Putrajaya.

READ: Johor crown prince free to criticise the government, but 'he is not above the law', says Mahathir

READ: From patrol policeman to royal bodyguard: How a Singaporean came to protect the Johor crown prince

SULTAN HAS RIGHT TO APPOINT NEW CHIEF MINISTER: LAWYER

Mr Ahmad Solehin Abd Ghani, a lawyer, noted that the sultan has the right to appoint a new chief minister.

In a Facebook post which was shared by the crown prince, the lawyer noted: "Under Undang-undang Tubuh Negeri Johor (state constitution), Item 3 (1), it is stated that the sultan has the absolute right in appointing the Mentri Besar ... In the issue of appointing, His Majesty does not have to act on advice from any quarters.”




"However, through 'convention', parties that won would send several names as Mentri Besar candidate to (the) Johor sultan for His Majesty's consideration where, in this matter, Pakatan Harapan should send the names," he was quoted as saying by The Star.

The lawyer added that the sultan would review the candidates and if they were appointed, he must agree to it.

"If the candidates that are sent are not agreed to by His Majesty, then the party must send another list to the Johor sultan until an agreement is reached to appoint the candidate as the Mentri Besar.”
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