Chitchat MAGA: Trump to impose bigly tariffs on chink rubbish!

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Trump considers indefinite tariffs, investment restrictions against China: Source

President Donald Trump's administration is considering a trade package including indefinite tariffs, investment restrictions and possible visa restrictions on Chinese travelers, a source told CNBC Tuesday.

The new package was crafted in response to the findings from a recent investigation of China by U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.

The so-called Section 301 investigation was formed to determine whether China's practices were "unreasonable or discriminatory and burden or restrict U.S. commerce."

The proposed package of penalties, which could foment a more adversarial trade relationship with China, comes amid a report from Reuters that theTrump administration is also seeking to impose heavy new tariffs on China.

Trump may impose tariffs on $60 billion of Chinese goods, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a source who had discussed the issue with the White House.

The potential tariffs would target the technology and telecommunications sectors, according to Reuters, but would not be limited to those sectors.

Politico reported earlier that Trump had rejected proposals for tariffs on $30 billion of Chinese imports, demanding instead even steeper duties on China.

 

[tun_dr_m]

China should actually BAN sales of many strategic and essential items to USA, don't always be stupid and eagle to do business. US economic dependency on Chinese supplies must be utilized to win trade war. W/O Chinese supplies lots of US consumers and govt services will be crying in pain and fuck Trump. Bankrupt USA is becoming a decreasing positioned customer as they are BANKRUPTED and owing huge debt. Sell to only good customers not the enemy! As the top world depending manufacturer China must use advantage to fix USA. Beggars can no only afford to buy very cheap supplies and expect quality too, and buy on credit terms. They can not find any such alternative. Others will be costing much more and may be not even as good.

China promised a painful torture on Americans during the trade wars. Pains should be such that China can survive and endure, but America can not survive nor endure.


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-03-15/doc-ifyscsmv8297162.shtml

媒体：中国若被迫与美国打贸易战 就要打痛它
媒体：中国若被迫与美国打贸易战 就要打痛它

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　　原标题：社评：若被迫与美打贸易战，就要打痛它

　　据西方主流媒体报道，美国政府消息人士透露，特朗普总统正在寻求对最高达600亿美元的中国进口商品加征关税，并将把目标锁定在科技和电信行业。报道称，那些关税可能“很快”就要开征。

　　随着对被认为持对华强硬立场的蓬佩奥出任国务卿，美国对华贸易领域咄咄逼人的政策有可能加快出台，中美关系经历一轮紧张恐在所难免。

　　中国需做好开展贸易报复的准备，这种准备包括具体策略上的，也包括心理上的。北京需对华盛顿搞一场大致对等的、态度上不上纲上线但做法上决不手软的“迎头痛击”。

　　特朗普政府现在非常笃信能在气势上压倒中国，期待美提高中国产品进口关税是只赚不赔或者赚远多于赔的讨伐。上任一年多以来，特朗普在国际上四面发威，除了朝鲜半岛方向比较曲折，在其他方向大多进行得比较顺利。他四处出访获得超规格礼遇，还带回许多在美投资建厂或者购买更多美国商品的承诺。

　　特朗普迄今为止没因对外奉行强硬政策吃什么亏，这会让他觉得自己是对的。所以他排挤掉了其团队中蒂勒森、科恩这样为数不多的“全球主义者”，把更多鹰派人物召进自己的班底。

　　其实华盛顿有一点需要搞清楚，特朗普总统成功地树立了自己什么都敢干的形象，但他最好是用这个形象吓唬世界，不能真的“什么都敢干”。美国如果真与世界打大规模贸易战，它必将置自己于尴尬的位置。

　　美国并没有真的从国际贸易中吃亏，美国至今仍是全球最发达的国家，处在世界从科技到金融的顶端。贸易逆差不是衡量美国经济社会发展状况的唯一指标，而且减少贸易逆差主要得靠美国社会勤奋，面向国际市场需求做更大的开放与改革，而不是让外部世界为迎合美国利益做出改变。美国人觉得自己吃了大亏，是不讲道理的怨天尤人。

　　对外展示一些强硬姿态、尽可能多地为美国捞一些利益，以此安抚选民的情绪，有利于自己竞选连任，这是特朗普能够做的。直到最近以前，应当说华盛顿总体上做得不错。

　　然而做些威胁可以，但对抗是不能真搞的，因为一旦贸易战打起来，有点实力的国家没有哪一个会向美国屈服。比如中国，我们尽量避免打贸易战，不意味着会在美国真打到我们家门口时采取绥靖政策，反击势必发生。而与美国开打贸易战的国家，很多政治上承受贸易战的能力都高于美国，最后先撑不住的很可能就是特朗普政府。

　　只要华盛顿的强硬政策导致美国吃一次比较大的亏，特朗普政府就将付出巨大代价。这个政府较之前美国政府更强势的唯一资源是特朗普的个性，它受到的真实掣肘实际上不低于以往的任何一届美国政府，民意支持也不高。它的冒进姿态掩饰不了它其实需要如履薄冰的现实。

　　中国决不能主动做特朗普枪下的“出头鸟”，但我们块头大，决不能被当成可以割肉的肥羊，而要让特朗普确信，我们是一旦被招惹将会毫不犹豫还手的勇士。

　　也许中美注定要“交一两回手”，帮助华盛顿彻底搞清楚“惹谁都别惹中国”的道理。一旦这样的挑战直抵阵前，就让我们坦然接受它好了。


Media: China must beat it if it is forced to fight trade with the United States

Media: China must beat it if it is forced to fight trade with the United States


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Original title: Social comment: If you are forced to fight trade with the United States, you must beat it


According to Western mainstream media reports, U.S. government sources revealed that President Trump is seeking to impose tariffs on Chinese imports of up to 60 billion U.S. dollars and will target the technology and telecommunications industries. Reported that those tariffs may be "quickly" will be introduced.


With the appointment of Pompeo as Secretary of State for a firm position against China, the aggressive US policies in the area of trade with China are likely to be speeded up. It is inevitable that Sino-U.S. relations experience a series of tensions.


China needs to be ready to launch trade retaliation. This preparation includes specific tactics as well as psychological ones. Beijing needs to engage in a roughly reciprocal attack on Washington, but it is not on the line but it is not a soft-headed approach.


The Trump administration is now very convinced that it can overwhelm China in its momentum and expects the United States to increase its import tariffs on Chinese products only to make a profit or lose more than to lose. Over the past one or more years, Trump has been making an all-out move in the international arena. In addition to the twists and turns in the direction of the Korean Peninsula, most of the other directions have been relatively smooth. He traveled around to get extra-special privileges and brought back many promises to invest in US factories or buy more U.S. goods.


Trump has not so far suffered from a tough policy for foreigners. This will make him feel right. So he squeezed out a handful of "globalists" such as Tillerson and Cohen from his team and called more hawks into his team.


In fact, Washington needs to make clear that President Trump has successfully established himself as an image that he dares to do. However, he is best to use this image to scare the world. He cannot really "do anything." If the United States really fights a large-scale trade war with the world, it will surely place itself in an awkward position.


The United States has not really suffered from international trade. The United States is still the world’s most advanced country and it is at the top of the world from technology to finance. The trade deficit is not the only indicator to measure the economic and social development of the United States. The main reason for reducing the trade deficit depends on the diligence of the American society and greater openness and reforms for the needs of the international market, rather than making the outside world make changes to cater to the interests of the United States. Americans feel that they have suffered a big loss. They are unreasonable and complaining.


It is Trump's ability to demonstrate some tough gestures and to use as many benefits as possible for the United States to soothe the sentiments of the voters and help them run for reelection. Until recently, it should be said that Washington has done a good job overall.


However, some threats can be done, but confrontation can't really take place, because once the trade battle is fought, no country with a certain strength will succumb to the United States. For example, in China, we try to avoid a trade war. It does not mean that we will adopt a policy of appeasement when the United States really hits our doorstep. A counterattack is bound to happen. In countries where the United States opened a trade war, many countries are more able to withstand trade wars than the United States. The last thing they can't sustain is the Trump administration.


As long as Washington’s tough policy has caused the United States to suffer a relatively large loss, the Trump administration will pay a huge price. The only resource that this government has been more powerful than the previous US government is Trump's personality. The real constraints it suffers are actually not lower than any previous U.S. government, and public support is not high. Its aggressive attitude can not conceal the fact that it actually requires walking on thin ice.


China must not take the initiative to do the "bird of prey" under the Trump guns. But we are big and we must not be treated as meat sheep. We must convince Trump that we will not hesitate to retreat once we are provoked. Warriors.


Maybe China and the United States are doomed to "make a handful or two." Helping Washington to thoroughly understand the principle of "provoke no one to mess with China." Once such a challenge comes straight to the front, let us calmly accept it.

 

[tun_dr_m]

If China just thoroughly sanction and embargo to punish America, the US military can become NAKED, as their uniforms and boots are supplied by China! Their nuke submarine's power generators are Chinese. Their largest naval yard's gentry cranes are Chinese! Many of the US militaries are still using unofficially the Chinese civilian DJI drones - globally! Countless number of things China and STOP supply and punish America, Chinese are rich enough not depending to do business with the American beggars who just own world's highest debts to China! Cut of the supplies and the beggars will starve and kneel down to beg forgiveness.

China just need to punish USA mercilessly for once and for all.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-03-15/doc-ifyscsmv8479170.shtml

美英军备原来竟有这么多中国制造 连核潜艇电机都是
美英军备原来竟有这么多中国制造 连核潜艇电机都是

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美军作战部队使用的中国造作战服、作战靴
　　中国制造可以说是前几年中国的代名词，可以说之前几年世界各国各地到处都有中国制造的身影，而这也成为中国影响力的一个体现。不过要说中国制造究竟到底有多牛，只要看看美军的装备就清楚了，据俄罗斯有媒体在2017年刊登了一篇文章称，在奥巴马结束执政期后作为后继的特朗普命令清查美军装备时竟然发现其中有大量武器装备的关键系统采用了中国制造，这其中就包括美军的F-35、F-15以及V22运输机，这可都是美军当下较为主力的装备，这其中F-35更是未来美军发展的主力。

　　当得知美军中竟有如此多的中国制造，美国高层倍感震惊，一方面作为美军顶尖的军事装备竟然使用的是他国制造，更为关键的制造方还是其劲敌中国，这更加不能忍受。除此之外，美国最为震惊的是中国制造的影响竟然已经无孔不入，这就意味着中国影响力以比以前有了较大的增加，这种软实力的杀伤可比使用中国制造本身更为可怕。

美空军为F-35使用的 APG-81机载雷达
　　其实关于这一点还真的不应埋怨中国，之所以会有这么一大批的中国制造在美国应用主要是因为价格低廉，成本更低，反观美国其高额的成本，高额员工工资使得美国本土制造成本急剧上升，积少成多加起来成本的增加使得美国这样的经济强国也难以接受。这其中有一个典型的例子就是美国F-35雷达生产商霍尼韦尔公司曾在2009年将一条热传感器生产线迁往中国，变成中国制造之后其成本大幅降低，原本在本土制造一个原件价格高达几十美元，迁移到中国之后价格只有几美元，这就是十几倍的成本缩减。目前F-35的成本大约在1亿美元左右，而如果换做全部中国造很可能只有六七千万美元，成本缩减近一半。面对这种诱惑会有哪家生产商不动心呢？

英国航母建造时使用的中国造龙门吊
　　其实美国的不比大惊小怪，早在多年前英国就发现英国海军装备中也有中国制造，英国驻上海总领事John Edwards就曾公开表示“英国军队使用的关键设备都是一些由中国控股企业拥有的公司生产的，其中甚至包括英国核潜艇部队使用的电动机”，起初面对中国制造的侵入英国政府也有所担心，但无奈迫于成本压力等原因最终也只得接受中国制造了。当然近年来中国制造也不仅限于低成本，高技术也成为中国制造的另一代名词，英国在建设国产航母时使用大型龙门吊就是从中国购买的，美国也曾购买过，而这款装备可是英美这个两个老牌帝国所造不出来的。

民用级无人机 美军班组也有在私下使用
　　目前中国已逐渐从中国制造转变成中国创造，虽然字面上有所变化，但其带来的深远影响却从未改变，未来将有更多的国家，更多的地区使用上纯粹由中国人设计打造的真正中国造，而不向以往付出简单的劳动力，届时相信恐怕中国的影响力将使美国真正感到害怕。（作者署名：刘剑锋谈兵）


The United States and Britain’s military armament originally had so many Chinese-made nuclear submarine motors.
The United States and Britain’s military armament originally had so many Chinese-made nuclear submarine motors.
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The Chinese-made combat uniforms and combat boots used by the U.S. military combat troops used by the U.S. military combat troops.

Made in China can be said to be synonymous with China in the past few years. It can be said that in the past few years, all parts of the world have had Chinese-made figures everywhere, which has also become a reflection of China’s influence. However, to say exactly how much cows China manufactures, as long as you look at the equipment of the U.S. military, it is clear. According to a Russian media article published in 2017, after the end of Obama’s term of office, he was ordered to inspect the U.S. military as a successor to Trump. During the installation, we discovered that key systems in which there are a large number of weapons and equipment were manufactured in China, including the US military’s F-35, F-15, and V22 transport aircraft. This is the main force of the U.S. military, including F-35. It is the main force for the future development of the US military.

When we learned that there are so many Chinese manufacturing companies in the United States, high-level US officials feel shocked. On the one hand, the US military’s top military equipment actually uses other countries’ manufacturing. The more crucial manufacturer is its rival China, which is even more unbearable. In addition, what is most shocking to the United States is that the influence of Chinese manufacturing has become pervasive, which means that China’s influence has increased considerably. This kind of soft power killing can be even more terrible than using Chinese manufacturing itself.
US Air Force APG-81 Airborne Radar for F-35 US Air Force APG-81 Airborne Radar for F-35

Actually, we should not complain about China on this point. The reason why such a large number of Chinese manufacturing applications in the United States are mainly due to low prices and lower costs, on the other hand, the high cost of the United States and the high wages of employees make the United States Manufacturing costs have risen sharply, and the increase in costs as a result of accumulating costs has made it difficult for economic powers such as the United States to accept them. A typical example of this is the United States F-35 radar manufacturer Honeywell once relocated a thermal sensor production line to China in 2009, and its cost was substantially reduced after it was made in China. Originally, an original price was made locally. Up to tens of US dollars, after the move to China, the price is only a few dollars, which is more than ten times the cost reduction. At present, the cost of the F-35 is about 100 million U.S. dollars, and if all of China’s manufacturing is replaced, it is likely that there will be only 60,000 million U.S. dollars, and the cost will be reduced by nearly half. Which manufacturer will not be tempted to face this temptation?
The Chinese-made gantry crane used in the construction of the British carrier The Chinese gantry crane used in the construction of the British carrier

In fact, the United States is more than a fuss. As early as many years ago, Britain discovered that British navy equipment is also made in China. The British Consul General in Shanghai John Edwards has publicly stated that "key equipment used by the British army is produced by companies owned by Chinese holding companies. This includes even the electric motors used by the British nuclear submarine force." At first, the British government was also worried about the invasion of Chinese manufacturing. However, unfortunately, it was forced to accept only Chinese manufacturing because of cost pressures and other reasons. Of course, in recent years, China's manufacturing is not only limited to low cost, but high-tech has also become another name for Chinese manufacturing. The use of large-scale gantry cranes by the United Kingdom in the construction of domestic aircraft carriers was purchased from China, and the United States also purchased it. This equipment is an Anglo-American one. Two old empires can't make it.
Civilian drones U.S. military squads have also used civilian-grade drones privately. U.S. military squads have also used them in private.

At present, China has gradually transformed itself from Chinese manufacturing into Chinese creation. Although it has changed literally, the far-reaching impact it has brought has never been changed. In the future there will be more countries and more regions will be designed purely by the Chinese. Instead of creating a simple Chinese labor force in the past, I believe that fear of China’s influence will make the United States really scared. (Author's signature: Liu Jianfeng discusses soldiers)