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LuckyTan: Unemp PMETs..frm bad to worse!

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<!-- Begin .post -->Unemployed PMETs Situation : Bad to worse......

PMET is an abbreviation for professionals, managers, executives and technicians. The employment prospects for a PMET above 40 is poor during the good times....and worse than poor during the bad times. During the good times, the govt coined this euphemistic term "structural unemployment" to describe the problem. The proposed govt solution has been the same in good times and bad- retraining, retraining, retraining. When retraining does not work, what does the govt propose? More retraining. Right now the govt is proposing to have more 40 conversion schemes for PMETs [
Link ]. Do you think they will solve the problem if they have 100 conversion schemes?...make that 200. The problem is not the skills but the age of these people and the ability of employers to practice age discrimination a.k.a ageism.


Why did employers take in those over-40s in the past...say 15 years ago? The reason is very simple. Singapore had a rather tight labor market so when the economy boomed employers couldn't find workers ddn't have much of a choice except to give those who were older a chance. The booming economy created opportunities for these people. When the recession came, they had as good a chance as anyone else of getting retrenched. If they became jobless, they had to struggle until the economy recovered before they got another shot at decent employment.....but that was the situation 15 years ago. What has changed?


When the PAP govt opened the floodgates for foreign workers, they also changed the demographics of our workforce. The supply of workers below the age of 30 became almost unlimited, given you can always find workers from India and China willing to come here. When the economy boomed in 2007/2008 the employers could employ hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. Instead of the labor market becoming tight creating opportunities for those over-40s, the influx of workers caused this group of Singaporeans to remained unemployed or underemployed during the boom.


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% increase in employment (residents vs foreigners)
Chart taken from Online Citizen.[Link]
If the goal of the PAP govt simply wanted grow the GDP as fast as possible, it is easy to understand what they were trying to do. The huge influx of foreign workers caused the cost of living (e.g. rentals) to rise and the rapid growth of the economy caused it to overheat[Link : Singapore economy shows sign of overheating as companies hire workers at an unprecedented pace] .
The PAP continues to insist that its economic model is the best for ordinary Singaporeans but ordinary Singaporeans are beginning to ask : What's in it for us? Being forced to work until our old age burdened by the highest household debt in Asia while becoming increasing unemployable after the age of 40...is that something that we want for ourselves and our children? <-- ANY QUESTION WHY SINGAPOREAN BIRTHRATE CONTINUE ITS DECLINE DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE PAP CREATED? The wealth from this GDP growth distributed inequitably as the system results in an income gap comparable only to 3rd world nations.
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snrcitizen

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In addition to the above, the jobs credit covers both citizens and PRs. All the employer needs to do is to get PRs for their foreign workers (the ICA is dishing PRs out like there is no tomorrow) and hey presto, the employer is entitled to claim the jobs credit even as he replaces the Singapore worker with a foreign worker.

So Singaporeans face a double whammy. This is how PAP gahmen treat Singaporeans and will relentlessly continue to do so unless they are voted out.
 

funglung

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In addition to the above, the jobs credit covers both citizens and PRs. All the employer needs to do is to get PRs for their foreign workers (the ICA is dishing PRs out like there is no tomorrow) and hey presto, the employer is entitled to claim the jobs credit even as he replaces the Singapore worker with a foreign worker.

So Singaporeans face a double whammy. This is how PAP gahmen treat Singaporeans and will relentlessly continue to do so unless they are voted out.

HOW ELSE DID BASTARD LEE KUAN YEW GOT FROM YOU ALL THAT 400-500++ BILLIONS INTO HIS TEMASICK AND GIC?

EVEN MORE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS INTO HIS RESERVES




Sinkies got no balls
You all dare not stand with those that tried to speak for you.
SO HOW MANY TRIED TO SPEAK FOR YOU NOW?

You all dare not give money to them so that they can work for you.
SO HOW MANY CAN WORK FOR YOU NOW?

You all dare not support them publicly so that they can speak for you.
SO HOW MANY PUBLICLY SPEAK FOR YOU NOW?

You all turn your backs on those that spoke out bravely against LKY
LKY hit out at those who tried to speak for you with his kangaroo courts
You turn your backs and not support them with money and courage.


SO HOW MANY TRIED TO SPEAK FOR YOU NOW?
SO HOW MANY CAN WORK FOR YOU NOW?
SO HOW MANY PUBLICLY SPEAK FOR YOU NOW?


You let them be beaten and bankrupted because you all have no balls
NOW YOU GETTING YOUR BALLS CUT OFF FROM YOU AND YOU AND YOUR FAMILY RAPED AND FUCKED BY LEE KUAN YEW AND HIS COCKROACHES IN WHITE


Why complain now?

Your 400-500++ billions sucked and bled into LKY Temasick and GIC

And even more billions are currently sucked and bled so that LKY can use those money to bastardised and pay his kangaroo courts and running dogs to bleed even more billions from you in future

You got what you all deserved
for your lack of balls


FIND YOUR BALLS TO PUT AN END TO LKY

or open your legs to be further screwed by him
 

miosux

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In addition to the above, the jobs credit covers both citizens and PRs. All the employer needs to do is to get PRs for their foreign workers (the ICA is dishing PRs out like there is no tomorrow) and hey presto, the employer is entitled to claim the jobs credit even as he replaces the Singapore worker with a foreign worker.

So Singaporeans face a double whammy. This is how PAP gahmen treat Singaporeans and will relentlessly continue to do so unless they are voted out.

uncle, this is unlike you. it is not as easy as you make it out to convert an S-pass or wp holder to PR. maybe last time when u still working, but not since you retired. pls clarify. :confused:
 

yellow_people

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So who do we blame?

"Also SG has a majority pop of 75% chinese whom made the country what it is today. If the % were changed say more malays would SG be better or worse??

- Jah_rastafar_I
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=23304%.

“We have a practical people whose culture tells them that contention for the sake of contention leads to disaster. I have said this on many a previous occasion; that had the mix in Singapore been different, had it been 75% Indians, 15% Malays and the rest Chinese, it would not have worked. Because they believe in the politics of contention, of opposition. But because the culture was such that the populace sought a practical way out of their difficulties, therefore it has worked.”

- Lee Kuan Yew, 1985


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<!-- Begin .post -->Unemployed PMETs Situation : Bad to worse......

PMET is an abbreviation for professionals, managers, executives and technicians. The employment prospects for a PMET above 40 is poor during the good times....and worse than poor during the bad times. During the good times, the govt coined this euphemistic term "structural unemployment" to describe the problem. The proposed govt solution has been the same in good times and bad- retraining, retraining, retraining. When retraining does not work, what does the govt propose? More retraining. Right now the govt is proposing to have more 40 conversion schemes for PMETs [
Link ]. Do you think they will solve the problem if they have 100 conversion schemes?...make that 200. The problem is not the skills but the age of these people and the ability of employers to practice age discrimination a.k.a ageism.


Why did employers take in those over-40s in the past...say 15 years ago? The reason is very simple. Singapore had a rather tight labor market so when the economy boomed employers couldn't find workers ddn't have much of a choice except to give those who were older a chance. The booming economy created opportunities for these people. When the recession came, they had as good a chance as anyone else of getting retrenched. If they became jobless, they had to struggle until the economy recovered before they got another shot at decent employment.....but that was the situation 15 years ago. What has changed?


When the PAP govt opened the floodgates for foreign workers, they also changed the demographics of our workforce. The supply of workers below the age of 30 became almost unlimited, given you can always find workers from India and China willing to come here. When the economy boomed in 2007/2008 the employers could employ hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. Instead of the labor market becoming tight creating opportunities for those over-40s, the influx of workers caused this group of Singaporeans to remained unemployed or underemployed during the boom.


Chart1.png
% increase in employment (residents vs foreigners)
Chart taken from Online Citizen.[Link]
If the goal of the PAP govt simply wanted grow the GDP as fast as possible, it is easy to understand what they were trying to do. The huge influx of foreign workers caused the cost of living (e.g. rentals) to rise and the rapid growth of the economy caused it to overheat[Link : Singapore economy shows sign of overheating as companies hire workers at an unprecedented pace] .
The PAP continues to insist that its economic model is the best for ordinary Singaporeans but ordinary Singaporeans are beginning to ask : What's in it for us? Being forced to work until our old age burdened by the highest household debt in Asia while becoming increasing unemployable after the age of 40...is that something that we want for ourselves and our children? <-- ANY QUESTION WHY SINGAPOREAN BIRTHRATE CONTINUE ITS DECLINE DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE PAP CREATED? The wealth from this GDP growth distributed inequitably as the system results in an income gap comparable only to 3rd world nations.
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