Serious [ Lion Air Flight 610 ] Singapore Beware of Plane Fly By INDIAN Pilot : Black Box Suggest Pilot Don't Know How To Override Automated Flying System

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Black box reveals the futile struggle between pilots and computer inside the cockpit of doomed Lion Air Flight 610

Christian Edwards, Business Insider US

Families and colleagues of victims of Lion Air Flight 610 on the deck of an Indonesian navy ship on November 6 in Karawang, Indonesia. Ulet Ifansasti/Getty Images

• The pilots of the doomed Lion Air Flight 610 last month fought with a malfunctioning automated flight system, data from the flight’s black box in a preliminary report reviewed by The New York Times shows.

• The almost new Boeing 737 Max crashed into the Java Sea on October 29, killing all 189 people on board.

• The data in the report seems to suggest the pilots were unaware of how – or unable – to override the automated system.

 

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Indian Pilot Bhavye Suneja

31-year-old Bhavye Suneja from Delhi was the captain of the Lion Air Flight 610 that crashed, killing all 189 people on board

 

[syed putra]

When was the last time you clean your own clothes instead of using automatic washing machine?

 

[ginfreely]

https://www.businessinsider.sg/blac...lion-air-flight-jt610-in-the-air-2018-11/amp/

Black box reveals the futile struggle between pilots and computer inside the cockpit of doomed Lion Air Flight 610

Christian Edwards, Business Insider US

Families and colleagues of victims of Lion Air Flight 610 on the deck of an Indonesian navy ship on November 6 in Karawang, Indonesia. Ulet Ifansasti/Getty Images

• The pilots of the doomed Lion Air Flight 610 last month fought with a malfunctioning automated flight system, data from the flight’s black box in a preliminary report reviewed by The New York Times shows.

• The almost new Boeing 737 Max crashed into the Java Sea on October 29, killing all 189 people on board.

• The data in the report seems to suggest the pilots were unaware of how – or unable – to override the automated system.

Didn’t I say before that it’s all computer and nothing mechanical and so pilot job is not very difficult? See? Proven computer malfunction only pilots also couldn’t do a thing to save the passengers.

 

[syed putra]

Didn’t I say before that it’s all computer and nothing mechanical and so pilot job is not very difficult? See? Proven computer malfunction only pilots also couldn’t do a thing to save the passengers.

Plane was just ascending when it got into trouble.most pilots would think it will be just another day flying.
Plane was still low and maybe no time to react as it was diving towards the ground. Sure panic.
The indonesian authorities did say the plane was not airworthy.
Now when the last pilot signed off, did they notify mechanics the plane has a malfunction.
And did the mechanic tell the incoming pilot to be aware of this fault if it was not fix or be on guard if its fixed but same result were to occur.

 

[ginfreely]

Plane was just ascending when it got into trouble.most pilots would think it will be just another day flying.
Plane was still low and maybe no time to react as it was diving towards the ground. Sure panic.
The indonesian authorities did say the plane was not airworthy.
Now when the last pilot signed off, did they notify mechanics the plane has a malfunction.
And did the mechanic tell the incoming pilot to be aware of this fault if it was not fix or be on guard if its fixed but same result were to occur.

Whatever it is, the fact remains computer malfunction only the pilots are as useless as passengers and are unable to control the plane.

 

[maxxi]

This accident has nothing to do with the Auto pilot system.Problem is the MCAS was getting erroneous data from one of the systems.They infact switched off the Auto pilot already before the crash.

 

[winnipegjets]

Indian Pilot Bhavye Suneja

31-year-old Bhavye Suneja from Delhi was the captain of the Lion Air Flight 610 that crashed, killing all 189 people on board

I question his competence to be a captain. How much hours did he have? Indon standard must be very low.

 

[winnipegjets]

This accident has nothing to do with the Auto pilot system.Problem is the MCAS was getting erroneous data from one of the systems.They infact switched off the Auto pilot already before the crash.

And there was one switch that could have turned it off. The Ah Neh captain didn't know.

 

[syed putra]

This accident has nothing to do with the Auto pilot system.Problem is the MCAS was getting erroneous data from one of the systems.They infact switched off the Auto pilot already before the crash.

And there was one switch that could have turned it off. The Ah Neh captain didn't know.

Maxxi said autopilot already turned off.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Only fake polit qualification can make this mistake. Switch on auto pilot too early and when he knew his mistake computer system take over....

Must be he nose up more that 20 that computer system failed to calculate and cause error 21....

Ah neh again stealiing jobs every good job with fake qualification..

 

[maxxi]

Auto pilot was off.They were not trained to swtich off that one other switch.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

It seems only lion air has the issue of plane crashing. What about other airlines?

 

[maxxi]

the 'trim stabilizer' switch was not turned off so the system contiuned to nudge nose down (20 times) CECA reacted to all those by pulling up.They are only tot to off that switch is only for "run away stab".Not for MCAS issue.Auto pilot was off.Basically he had no idea what was unravelling.

 

[maxxi]

It seems only lion air has the issue of plane crashing. What about other airlines?

other airlines don't have AOA sensor feeding MCAS failure/malfunction (yet) so their reaction not tested.

 

[maxxi]

I question his competence to be a captain. How much hours did he have? Indon standard must be very low.

yes not only how many hrs but what type of hrs he had.Cannot vette these CECA.Kotitiam lic also have

 

[ToaPehGong]

Actual pilot training involves manual piloting. In normal circumstances, that's landing and taking off. The good ones are the ones solving mechanical issues and flying the plane manually.

 

[ChristJohnny]

Plane was just ascending when it got into trouble.most pilots would think it will be just another day flying.
Plane was still low and maybe no time to react as it was diving towards the ground. Sure panic.
The indonesian authorities did say the plane was not airworthy.
Now when the last pilot signed off, did they notify mechanics the plane has a malfunction.
And did the mechanic tell the incoming pilot to be aware of this fault if it was not fix or be on guard if its fixed but same result were to occur.

IQ and RACE ... I wonder if this guy was properly trained. A degree from an Indian Uni cannot compared with a degree from USA Uni. There are many graduates from Malaysia and Philippines, how many actually has degree equivalent to the West? If they are, where is their innovation and industries? It is all about IQ and RACE. Sorry to say low IQ Race will always be second.