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柯文哲恭喜蔡英文「恭喜皇上」 還說賴清德「好可憐、被做掉」

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2019年6月14日 下午3:27


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民進黨總統初選結果出爐,現任總統蔡英文過關,被視為有可能角逐2020總統的台北市長柯文哲昨(13)日對蔡英文表示「加油」。媒體今天詢問柯文哲為何沒有恭喜?柯文哲回說,「那就恭喜皇上、賀喜皇上」。至於想對落敗的賴清德說什麼嗎?柯文哲說,「好可憐,被做掉」。
昨天民進黨公布的總統初選民調,柯文哲在與蔡英文、高雄市長韓國瑜對比中,位居末座,柯文哲今天被媒體詢問,蔡英文出線會不會降低柯文哲出來選的機率?柯文哲回應,應該是不會升高也不會降低,他還是做他的事情,「深呼吸放輕鬆,繼續往前走。」



而昨天柯文哲在議會備詢時被議員問到要對蔡英文說什麼時,只說「加油」卻沒有「恭喜」,柯文哲則回說,「那就恭喜皇上、賀喜皇上,喜歡聽什麼就講給你聽。」至於對賴清德要說什麼嗎?柯文哲則說「好可憐喔,被做掉了實在」。


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記者楊濡嘉/高雄報導
2019年6月14日 上午5:44


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前總統陳水扁日前舉辦簽書會。
民進黨總統初選民調結果,總統蔡英文勝出,前總統陳水扁昨晚在臉書表示,對民調結果「阿扁打死也不相信」,從未看過五家民調結果是從一個模子印出來,質疑「這絕對是抽樣題庫提供者中央黨部的母體出了問題」。
陳水扁在臉書上說,民進黨二○二○總統初選全民調出爐,蔡英文不只逆轉勝,還所向無敵大贏賴清德百分之八點二、韓國瑜百分之十一、柯文哲百分之十三,你相信嗎?阿扁打死也不相信。
扁說,從立委時代就有自己的民調中心,加上各二次市長與總統選舉,對民調不敢說是專家,至少也有將近卅年經驗,從未看過五家民調結果是從一個模子印出來,高低差都是二,蔡英文卅四~卅六、賴清德廿六~廿八、韓國瑜廿三~廿五、柯文哲廿一~廿三,這絕對是抽樣題庫提供者中央黨部的母體出了問題。
陳水扁說,去年一一二四縣市長選前民調與投票結果已有出入,還是經人動了手腳?如果蔡英文贏了裡子又贏了面子是真的,賴韓柯三位強棒全是蔡踩在腳底下的敗將,全民調結果是否就可以宣布蔡英文當選二○二○總統?大家也不用那麼辛苦助選拉票,我們可以天天遊山玩水去了。他臉書最後一句寫「初選結束會是分裂開始的夢魘嗎?!」
【記者林敬殷、丘采薇/台北報導】對於前總統陳水扁的質疑,民進黨發言人周江杰昨晚表示,球賽不到最後都沒有人能保證結果。民進黨整個民調過程不但公正透明,且從抽樣到封存、計分,全程都有民調委員及雙方代表參與驗證,每一份樣本也都有錄音,絕對禁得起考驗。


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記者張文馨╱即時報導
2019年6月14日 下午3:03


根據民進黨初選民調,蔡英文總統獲得壓倒性勝利,不但完勝行政院前院長賴清德,就連高雄市長韓國瑜都落後蔡英文11.2個百分點,引發諸多質疑。台灣民意基金會董事長游盈隆發文質疑離奇,指這份民調結果挑戰經驗、理性與常識,他表示,除非民進黨公布原始資料,初選雖已落幕,政治問題獲得解決,但是留在人民心中,對於初選民調的質疑,短時間內不會消失。
游盈隆指出,台灣本來就很少進行手機民調,五家一起做更是開先例,其中一定有許多可以探討的東西,除非中央黨部願公布原始資料,可供學術界進行研究,不過那可能是很久以後的事情。
台北市前副市長丁庭宇也說,五家民調公司各有不同訪員,執行過程中理當也沒有交流;五家民調公司,同時進行手機合併市話民調,結果出來,竟然五家都這麼整齊,他當場大笑三聲。
丁庭宇說,其中可能的原因有很多,例如在訪員的素質下功夫,控制到追問的方式都一模一樣;或者是要民進黨拿出成功訪問的樣本,進行交叉對比,看是否有重複樣本,不過他相信,民進黨不會這麼做。
另外,游盈隆也質疑,初選民調不等於真實民意,2011年時,如今的蔡總統和行政院長蘇貞昌進行初選民調,蔡英文以42.5%擊敗尋求連任的馬英九(35.04%),蘇貞昌41.15%同樣擊敗馬英九33.79%。2012年1月14日選舉結果,馬英九得票率51.6%,蔡英文得票率45.63%,蔡英文大輸馬英九80萬票。
游盈隆表示,只能說,初選民調的存在就是政治衝突的解決方案。丁庭宇則推論,表示藍軍支持者在初選民調中,將票大量灌給蔡英文,否則,今天蔡英文不只贏過韓國瑜,要在幾個月內由原本落後賴清德10個百分點追趕,到最後到贏8個百分點,這18個百分點的差距怎麼來?難道是蔡英文做了什麼好事?
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Ke Wenzhe congratulates Tsai Ing-wen, "Congratulations to the emperor" and said that Lai Qingde is "poor, being made"
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June 14, 2019, 3:27 PM


The results of the DPP presidential primaries were released. The current president, Tsai Ing-wen, passed the test. The Taipei Mayor Ke Wenzhe, who is likely to compete for the 2020 president, expressed his support for Tsai Ing-wen yesterday (13). The media asked why Ke Wenzhe did not congratulate today? Ke Wenzhe said, "Congratulations to the emperor and He Xihuang." As for what to say to Lai Qingde who lost? Ke Wenzhe said, "It’s so poor, it’s done."

Yesterday, the Democratic Progressive Party announced the presidential primaries poll, Ke Wenzhe in the comparison with Tsai Ing-wen and Kaohsiung Mayor Korea Yu, Ke Wenzhe was asked by the media today, will Tsai Ing-wen qualify to reduce the chance of Ke Wenzhe's election? Ke Wenzhe responded that it should not rise or fall, he still does his thing, "Let's take a deep breath and continue to move forward."



When Ke Wenzhe was asked by the parliament about what to say to Tsai Ing-wen when he was asked by the council in the past, he only said "refueling" but not "congratulations". Ke Wenzhe said, "Congratulations to the emperor, He Xihuang, like to listen to what to say. Listen to you." As for what to say to Lai Qingde? Ke Wenzhe said, "It’s pitiful, it’s been done."



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5 demos, 1 model, "A-Bian killed and did not believe"
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Reporter Yang Yujia / Kaohsiung Report
June 14, 2019, 5:44 am


Former President Chen Shui-bian recently held a signing ceremony.
Former President Chen Shui-bian recently held a signing ceremony.

The result of the Democratic Progressive Party’s presidential primaries, President Tsai Ing-wen won, and former President Chen Shui-bian said in Facebook last night that he did not believe that the results of the polls were "A-Bian killed." The mold was printed and questioned, "This is definitely a problem with the mother of the Central Party Department of the sample bank provider."

Chen Shui-bian said on Facebook that the Democratic Progressive Party’s 2020 presidential primaries were released from the public. Tsai Ing-wen not only reversed the victory, but also won the invincible victory of Lai Qingde 8.2%, South Korea’s Yu, 11%, Ke Wenzhe Thirteen, do you believe it? A flat did not believe in killing.

Ping said that from the time of the legislators, there were their own polling centers, plus the two mayors and presidential elections. They did not dare to say that they were experts in the polls. At least they also had nearly two years of experience. They have never seen the results of the five polls. Printed from a mold, the height difference is two, Tsai Ing-wen 卅 four ~ 卅 six, Lai Qingde 廿 six ~ 廿 eight, South Korea Yoga three ~ 廿 five, Ke Wenzhe 廿 one ~ 廿 three, this is definitely the sample bank provider central The mother of the party has a problem.

Chen Shui-bian said that the results of the polls and polls before the election of the mayors of the county and the county in the past year were already in the same way. If Tsai Ing-wen wins the quilt and wins the face is true, Lai Hanke's three strong sticks are all defeated by Cai under his feet. Can the results of the referendum announce that Tsai Ing-wen is elected as the President of 2002? Everyone does not have to work so hard to help vote, we can go to the mountains every day to go to the water. The last sentence of his Facebook wrote, "Is the end of the primary election a nightmare for splitting?!"

[Reporter Lin Jingyin, Qiu Caiwei/Taipei Report] For the question of former President Chen Shui-bian, DPP spokesperson Zhou Jiangjie said last night that no one can guarantee the outcome until the end of the game. The DPP's entire polling process is not only fair and transparent, but also from the sampling to the storage and scoring. There are polling committee members and representatives from both sides participating in the verification. Each sample is also recorded, and it is absolutely forbidden to test.



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The results of the five green polls were super-tidy. The pollsters laughed on the spot.
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Reporter Zhang Wenxin ╱ instant report
June 14, 2019, 3:03 PM


According to the Democratic Progressive Party’s primary poll, President Tsai Ing-wen won an overwhelming victory. Not only did he win over Lai Qingde, the former president of the Executive Yuan, but even Kaohsiung’s mayor, Yuki, was 11.2 percentage points behind Tsai Ing-wen, causing many questions. Yu Yinglong, chairman of the Taiwan Public Opinion Foundation, questioned the bizarre, referring to the results of this poll, which challenged experience, rationality and common sense. He said that unless the DPP announced the original materials, the primary election had ended, political issues were resolved, but remained in the people. In my heart, doubts about the primary poll will not disappear in a short time.

You Yinglong pointed out that Taiwan has rarely carried out mobile phone polls, and the five companies have set a precedent. There must be many things that can be explored, unless the Central Party is willing to publish the original materials for academic research, but that may It is a long time later.

Ding Tingyu, the former deputy mayor of Taipei City, also said that the five polling companies have different interviewers, and there is no communication during the implementation process; five polling companies, simultaneously carrying out mobile phone mergers and dialects, have come out, even five of them are Neat, he laughed three times on the spot.

Ding Tingyu said that there are many possible reasons, such as the quality of the interviewers, the way to control the questioning is exactly the same; or the DPP to take a sample of successful interviews, cross-checking to see if there are duplicate samples, but He believes that the DPP will not do this.

In addition, You Yinglong also questioned that the primary poll is not equal to the real public opinion. In 2011, President Cai and Executive Dean Su Yuchang conducted a preliminary poll, and Tsai Ing-wen defeated Ma Ying-jeou (35.04%) who sought re-election at 42.5%. Su Shichang 41.15% also defeated Ma Yingjiu 33.79%. On the results of the election on January 14, 2012, Ma Ying-jeou won 51.6% of the votes, Tsai Ing-wen scored 45.63%, and Tsai Ing-wen lost Ma Ying's 900,000 votes.

You Yinglong said that it can only be said that the existence of the primary poll is the solution to political conflict. Ding Tingyu inferred that the supporters of the Blue Army had poured a large amount of votes into Tsai Ing-wen in the primary polls. Otherwise, Tsai Ing-wen not only won South Korea’s Yu today, but also had to catch up with Lai Qingde’s 10 percentage points in a few months. In the end, to win 8 percentage points, how come the gap of 18 percentage points? Is it good for Tsai Ing-wen?

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