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Leong Sze Hian got the message! Ministers' Pensions Revisited

Confuseous

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Leong Sze Hian /

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/05/pension-for-ministers-–-more-disclosure-please/

The Prime Minister’s Office and the Minister in charge of the Civil Service have both sought to clarify and explain the issue of ministerial pension. (See links below.)

Whilst the clarification on Ministerial pensions is welcome, I would like to suggest that more details be given. Otherwise, Singaporeans may still be in the dark about how much exactly ministers receive in their pensions.

For example, the Today report says, “When a cabinet minister retires, the maximum annual pension that he is entitled to would be about 10 per cent of his annual salary while he was in service.” So, what are the annual salaries of cabinet ministers?

Otherwise, it may be akin to saying its 10 per cent of $X, but what is X?

Another question is whether this applies to other ministers as well, who are not cabinet ministers.

The Today report also says, “Ministers have to serve a minimum of eight years to qualify for a pension.” How many and who are the ministers that qualify according to this criteria?

Why is it that a minister qualifies after eight years, whereas a civil servant like Administrative Officers are only eligible after 15 years?

Why is it that Members of Parliament (MPs) elected after January 1995 are not eligible, whereas ministers appointed after 1995 are still eligible?

We are told that the “pensionable component has been frozen since 1994” but what was the amount frozen?

The Prime Minister’s Office’s statement says that “over time the pensionable component has shrunk as a proportion of total monthly salary.” What is the pensionable amount as a percentage of the annual salary?

The PMO explains that “[the] Parliamentary Pensions Act also provides for an office-holder to receive a pension at the age of 55, should he qualify for one, while he continues to hold office.” The obvious question which Singaporeans may have is: how many ministers are now receiving a pension?

The PMO’s statement says ‘[this] provision is being reviewed.” I agree that it should be reviewed as I do not see why a current minister in office who is already earning more that $2 million a year should be given a pension at the same time.

How long is this review expected to take?

After all, this is not the first time that this issue has been raised over the years.

In the spirit of PAP transformation, as espoused by ministers George Yeo and Lim Hwee Hua (my former MP as I live in Aljunied GRC) in their respective press conferences after the elections, actually, it may be much simpler to just disclose to Singaporeans the amounts of pensions that each eligible minister is getting, instead of a long statement of clarification, which may leave citizens with arguably even more doubts and questions.

Given that “the points are already on… public record”, as the PMO says, and if good governance requires corporate officers of listed companies to disclose their remuneration, shouldn’t ministers do the same?


References:

“PMO on pensions for political office and MPs” (ST, May 14)

“Ministers’ pensions: How they’re paid” (Today, May 14)

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po2wq

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... if good governance requires corporate officers of listed companies to disclose their remuneration, shouldn’t ministers do the same? ...
dose burgers want 2 noe how much ppl r paid, but dey dunwan 2 tel ppl how much dey r paid? ... :mad: :oIo:
 

streetsmart73

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hi there


1.is this the result of the crying, apologies, regrets, repent or what?
2. hearing your voices, listening!
3. want to be transparent, starts to give details!
4. this is no listening but wayang.
 

Forvendet

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If I recall correctly, ministers elected got pensions between 1/3 (for at least 8 years service) to 2/3 (for 18 years or more) starting from age 55. The pensionable component was frozen after 1994, i.e. all payrise after 1994 are non-pensionable, and all pays of all new ministers after 1994 can be pensionable up the 1994 benchmark only. When a minister passes age 55 and is still in office, he recieves both regular pay plus pension.
 

mesmerised

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It is really shameful that they got another loser like Tan Kee Yong to answer the question that the citizens want to hear from their Ministers. And Tan Kee Yong obviously trying to walk a tight rope. Another poor civil servant who wants to serve his "master".Wasn't he the one chairing the meeting to decide on the electoral boundaries as Cabinet Secretary?

He should first come clean on how he decided on the boundaries without the PM's guidance or involvement.

The younger generation may not be as smart as the older generation. But they certainly are not fools to belief everything that is dished out to them.
 

longbow

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I thought politicians serveusthe citizens. Politicians work for us, voters. So then votersmust know how much we are paying each and everyone of them.

How much is package in today's $ for each of them till they die.
 

Forvendet

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I think it's good that professionals like Leong Sze Hian asks, but surely X (as referred to in his question what's the X as in 10% of X) must surely be the last drawn pay as all pension systems in the world practise. He's sounding somewhere from longwinded to heckling even for me an opposer to high ministerial salaries and pensions. He's showing off his quantitative statistic skills but also showing his lack of commonsense. You can't have a minister who's voted out in less than two terms entitled to pension. Civil servants are not subject to election. Even private corporations practising private pensions must stipulate minimum years of employment in order to be eligible for pension. His guy looks lost in his own numbers game.
 

longbow

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Forvendet - problem can be easily solved. Just publish how much each minister is paid. What are his pension/medical liability to the state - how much it cost today to fully fund the liability.

And after retirement, what other benefits do they get?? Is pension all there is?

Basically, Singaporeans are sick of all this shadow boxing. Just come clean. Hopefully Sylvia can bring up the issue in Parliament, especially now that there are more opposition MPs.
 

streetsmart73

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hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. in any part of the world, any master will definitely know how much the servants are paid,right!
3. sheep really suck big time here.
 
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