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Lehman Bonds:PAP Teo Ho Pin tells TCs' residents be Thankful!

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Dr Teo says ‘be thankful’
Some residents upset;MP points out how funds have grown


Ong Dai Lin


[email protected]



AS RESIDENTS of Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council reacted to the news on Monday that their constituency’s funds were exposed to Lehman-linked structured products, its chairmanDr Teo Ho Pin had this message for them: Be thankful that the funds have grown under the Town Council’s watch.
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Told of the rumblings on the ground about the high-risk investment, Dr Teo said the potential$8-million loss should be viewed in the context of the $24 million in investments generated over the past six years. If the Town Council had invested all its funds in low-risk investments, it would have earned only $5 million, he said.
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“They (residents) should thank the Town Council for working hard to come up with a diversified portfolio to generate income so that residents do not have to fork out more money.”
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Generally, residents in Holland-Bukit Panjang and Pasir Ris-Punggol whom Today spoke to had no issue about Town Councils growing their accounts through investment.
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But the 20 of them insisted that Town Councils must, nonetheless, draw the line at high-risk investments. Another clear sentiment: The Town Councils should have been more upfront about their current investment situation.
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Retiree Mdm Low Li Choo, who lives at Holland Avenue, said: “The Town Councils were not honestand sincere enough by notrevealing the details of their investments right from the start.”
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Restaurant manager Dhanie Herman, who lives at Pasir Ris, also said: “Town councils should reveal from the start so that we can have a clearer picture of their investments.”
.
Why didn’t the Town Councils keep residents in the loop?
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According to Dr Teo, it was because Town Councils cannot reveal their investment strategies and, anyway, Town Councils abide by the proper financial reporting system.
.
Details of their Lehman-linked investments were revealed on Monday by Senior Minister of State (National Development) Grace Fu in response to a question in Parliament. Prior to that, letters had been written to the press after Dr Teo, the coordinating chairman for the 14 People’s Action Party Town Councils, had responded to media queries to say that these investments amount to “a couple of percentage” of funds.
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Overall, they accounted for0.6 per cent of the Town Councils’ total funds available for investment. In Holland-Bukit Panjang’s case, it was 6.7 per cent ($8 million) of its funds and for Pasir Ris-Punggol,$4 million (2.6 per cent).
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Yesterday, Tanjong Pagar Town Council, one of six other Town Councils with exposure to Lehman Brothers, said that $250,000 has been invested by its fund managers in the bankrupt institution’s bonds — or 0.14 per cent of its total sinking funds.
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Pasir Ris-Punggol MPs Teo Ser Luck and Penny Low said that residents’ sentiments were fair, but urged them to understand that the Town Councils did not foresee the financial tsunami and its impact on complex structured products.
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On the timeliness of making information available, Mr Teo said that “we will definitely have to inform the residents as soon as possible at a timely time”, but “we need to first make assessments to know what has happened before making announcements”.
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Both Mr Teo and Ms Low assured residents belonging to both Town Councils that upgrading and maintenance works in the estates will not be affected.
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Customer service representative Nura Fadhlin, who lives at Pasir Ris Drive 6, said: “It is unfortunate that there is a financial crisis now and the Town Council lost money, they couldn’t have predicted it ... but I’m concerned that we don’t know what they are doing with our money.”
 
Dear Por

Ahhh the spinning by the spin doctors. :_)) The relevant figure is not 6.5% of total sums available for investments. The relevant figure is 6.5% of the 35% allowed by the government to invest in Non gov bonds and other investments.




Locke
 
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A table showing the amount of exposure of each Town Council, in percentages of the total investible sum as well as absolute figures will allow the public to analyze the conclusions given by these people.

The net returns/losses earned over each of the last 10 years is also useful.
 
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Told of the rumblings on the ground about the high-risk investment, Dr Teo said the potential$8-million loss should be viewed in the context of the $24 million in investments generated over the past six years. If the Town Council had invested all its funds in low-risk investments, it would have earned only $5 million, he said.


If he can provide more details on his calculations, details of how other town councils perform, we can form our own conclusions.

What voters need are details.

These details will show how good Dr Teo's Town Council really is, either conclusively or inconclusively.
 
Told of the rumblings on the ground about the high-risk investment, Dr Teo said the potential$8-million loss should be viewed in the context of the $24 million in investments generated over the past six years. If the Town Council had invested all its funds in low-risk investments, it would have earned only $5 million, he said.

Overall, they accounted for0.6 per cent of the Town Councils’ total funds available for investment. In Holland-Bukit Panjang’s case, it was 6.7 per cent ($8 million) of its funds and for Pasir Ris-Punggol,$4 million (2.6 per cent).

Let's work out the numbers, excluding the $8m potential loss.
Post-gain funds (8m/6.7%) = $119m
investment gain = $24m for 6 years
Pre-gain funds = $95m

if put everything in low risk investment, you get $5m
the return would be 0.86% pa for 6 years

if put everything in high risk investment (assuming 5% structured deposits with interest reinvested), then $95m would get a total return of $32m for 6 years.

and given the investment gain is $24m, we can work out the proportion.

Amount in high risk investment would be (24-5) / (32-5) x $95m = $66m
And the balance $95m - $66m = $29m would be in low risk investment.

So that
$29m generated (0.86% pa return) = $1.5m gain over 6 years
$66m generated (5% pa return) = $22.5m gain over 6 years
Total gain = $24m for the last 6 years.

So, out of the $66m placed in high risk investment, $8m are potentially a loss, what about the other $58m?

disclaimer: Because of very limited information, there is lots of assumptions in the workings, and the result could be very misleading. Therefore, this is not meant to prove anything.
 
Dr Teo says ‘be thankful’
Some residents upset;MP points out how funds have grown


Ong Dai Lin


[email protected]



AS RESIDENTS of Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council reacted to the news on Monday that their constituency’s funds were exposed to Lehman-linked structured products, its chairmanDr Teo Ho Pin had this message for them: Be thankful that the funds have grown under the Town Council’s watch.
.
Told of the rumblings on the ground about the high-risk investment, Dr Teo said the potential$8-million loss should be viewed in the context of the $24 million in investments generated over the past six years. If the Town Council had invested all its funds in low-risk investments, it would have earned only $5 million, he said.
.
“They (residents) should thank the Town Council for working hard to come up with a diversified portfolio to generate income so that residents do not have to fork out more money.”
.
Generally, residents in Holland-Bukit Panjang and Pasir Ris-Punggol whom Today spoke to had no issue about Town Councils growing their accounts through investment.
.
But the 20 of them insisted that Town Councils must, nonetheless, draw the line at high-risk investments. Another clear sentiment: The Town Councils should have been more upfront about their current investment situation.
.
Retiree Mdm Low Li Choo, who lives at Holland Avenue, said: “The Town Councils were not honestand sincere enough by notrevealing the details of their investments right from the start.”
.
Restaurant manager Dhanie Herman, who lives at Pasir Ris, also said: “Town councils should reveal from the start so that we can have a clearer picture of their investments.”
.
Why didn’t the Town Councils keep residents in the loop?
.
According to Dr Teo, it was because Town Councils cannot reveal their investment strategies and, anyway, Town Councils abide by the proper financial reporting system.
.
Details of their Lehman-linked investments were revealed on Monday by Senior Minister of State (National Development) Grace Fu in response to a question in Parliament. Prior to that, letters had been written to the press after Dr Teo, the coordinating chairman for the 14 People’s Action Party Town Councils, had responded to media queries to say that these investments amount to “a couple of percentage” of funds.
.
Overall, they accounted for0.6 per cent of the Town Councils’ total funds available for investment. In Holland-Bukit Panjang’s case, it was 6.7 per cent ($8 million) of its funds and for Pasir Ris-Punggol,$4 million (2.6 per cent).
.
Yesterday, Tanjong Pagar Town Council, one of six other Town Councils with exposure to Lehman Brothers, said that $250,000 has been invested by its fund managers in the bankrupt institution’s bonds — or 0.14 per cent of its total sinking funds.
.
Pasir Ris-Punggol MPs Teo Ser Luck and Penny Low said that residents’ sentiments were fair, but urged them to understand that the Town Councils did not foresee the financial tsunami and its impact on complex structured products.
.
On the timeliness of making information available, Mr Teo said that “we will definitely have to inform the residents as soon as possible at a timely time”, but “we need to first make assessments to know what has happened before making announcements”.
.
Both Mr Teo and Ms Low assured residents belonging to both Town Councils that upgrading and maintenance works in the estates will not be affected.
.
Customer service representative Nura Fadhlin, who lives at Pasir Ris Drive 6, said: “It is unfortunate that there is a financial crisis now and the Town Council lost money, they couldn’t have predicted it ... but I’m concerned that we don’t know what they are doing with our money.”

another arrogant pig!
 
Wow you really good man;) For that you deserve my points for today:)


This Teo Ho Pin really needs to be told:oIo:

Dear Por

Ahhh the spinning by the spin doctors. The relevant figure is not 6.5% of total sums available for investments. The relevant figure is 6.5% of the 35% allowed by the government to invest in Non gov bonds and FD's with banks.




Locke
 
End of the day, the money does not go back to the residents, i dun see any reason why should the residents should be thankful when they get nothing back but end up paying more for the failure of others.
 
Dr Teo says ‘be thankful’
Some residents upset;MP points out how funds have grown


Ong Dai Lin


[email protected]



AS RESIDENTS of Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council reacted to the news on Monday that their constituency’s funds were exposed to Lehman-linked structured products, its chairmanDr Teo Ho Pin had this message for them: Be thankful that the funds have grown under the Town Council’s watch.
.
Told of the rumblings on the ground about the high-risk investment, Dr Teo said the potential$8-million loss should be viewed in the context of the $24 million in investments generated over the past six years. If the Town Council had invested all its funds in low-risk investments, it would have earned only $5 million, he said.
.
“They (residents) should thank the Town Council for working hard to come up with a diversified portfolio to generate income so that residents do not have to fork out more money.”
.
Generally, residents in Holland-Bukit Panjang and Pasir Ris-Punggol whom Today spoke to had no issue about Town Councils growing their accounts through investment.
.
But the 20 of them insisted that Town Councils must, nonetheless, draw the line at high-risk investments. Another clear sentiment: The Town Councils should have been more upfront about their current investment situation.
.
Retiree Mdm Low Li Choo, who lives at Holland Avenue, said: “The Town Councils were not honestand sincere enough by notrevealing the details of their investments right from the start.”
.
Restaurant manager Dhanie Herman, who lives at Pasir Ris, also said: “Town councils should reveal from the start so that we can have a clearer picture of their investments.”
.
Why didn’t the Town Councils keep residents in the loop?
.
According to Dr Teo, it was because Town Councils cannot reveal their investment strategies and, anyway, Town Councils abide by the proper financial reporting system.
.
Details of their Lehman-linked investments were revealed on Monday by Senior Minister of State (National Development) Grace Fu in response to a question in Parliament. Prior to that, letters had been written to the press after Dr Teo, the coordinating chairman for the 14 People’s Action Party Town Councils, had responded to media queries to say that these investments amount to “a couple of percentage” of funds.
.
Overall, they accounted for0.6 per cent of the Town Councils’ total funds available for investment. In Holland-Bukit Panjang’s case, it was 6.7 per cent ($8 million) of its funds and for Pasir Ris-Punggol,$4 million (2.6 per cent).
.
Yesterday, Tanjong Pagar Town Council, one of six other Town Councils with exposure to Lehman Brothers, said that $250,000 has been invested by its fund managers in the bankrupt institution’s bonds — or 0.14 per cent of its total sinking funds.
.
Pasir Ris-Punggol MPs Teo Ser Luck and Penny Low said that residents’ sentiments were fair, but urged them to understand that the Town Councils did not foresee the financial tsunami and its impact on complex structured products.
.
On the timeliness of making information available, Mr Teo said that “we will definitely have to inform the residents as soon as possible at a timely time”, but “we need to first make assessments to know what has happened before making announcements”.
.
Both Mr Teo and Ms Low assured residents belonging to both Town Councils that upgrading and maintenance works in the estates will not be affected.
.
Customer service representative Nura Fadhlin, who lives at Pasir Ris Drive 6, said: “It is unfortunate that there is a financial crisis now and the Town Council lost money, they couldn’t have predicted it ... but I’m concerned that we don’t know what they are doing with our money.”

Mr. Teo- you're missing the point. And the point is that you shouldn't be investing in such high-risk bonds in the first place, knowing that Lehman was in trouble since the bubble burst in August 2007- more than one year ago as we speak.
 
The PAP TC can give all these damn excuses but what if the opposition TCs were lose $1 of the sinking fund MM, SM, PM and whole list of PAP MPs would join in to condemn the opposition.

Fuck up PAP.
 
Same like everything in the PAP...GIC, Temasek.."confidential". How is it that in HK, Taiwan, Malaysia, Canada everywhere the govt "dare" and needs to tell the investment portfolio to the public bec. it is the public money. Whereas, Singapore all govt institution and even TC are so secretive...like a big LEEgalised secret society.
 
What a stupid reason, every Town Council in the UK publishes their accounts online.
 
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