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khaw boon wan give you 50K for kidney but keep the rest of the $950,000 !

madmansg

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the greedy malaysian quitter never do his NS still want to be sabotage king !

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'Putting a dollar value to that is not unethical,' he added, suggesting that the amount would likely be in the tens of thousands of dollars, since it has to last the donor the rest of his life.

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Mr Khaw also drew a distinction between inducement - 'you're poor, I'm rich, I'll give you $1m for your kidney'' - and reimbursement.

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'Putting a dollar value to that is not unethical,' said Mr Khaw (left). -- ST PHOTO: NG SOR LUAN

CHANGES to the Human Organ Transplant Act (Hota), expected early next year, will include compensation to those who donate their kidneys to save the lives of people they do not know.

Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan said this on Sunday when he sought to refine the ethical debate over organ trading to placate those who are against money changing hands for body parts.

Ethicists are against commercialisation, he noted, but even ethicists in the United States, with its 'highly ethical framework',' think altruistic donors should be reimbursed.

'The ethicists have no problems with reimbursing the donor provided that ... he or she is fully informed of the risks, possibility of complications and what will happen to him for the rest of his life,'' said the minister.

Mr Khaw, who was in Manila last week to meet organ donors, said he returned home even more convinced that something had to be done to regulate organ trading, in particular, to cut out the middlemen.

The donors he met had no clue what they were getting themselves into.

The Filippinos he met had been 'shortchanged', he said, with just $3,000 to $4,000 paid to them for a kidney.

'We cannot leave this problem to the black market,' said Mr Khaw, at the opening of Woodlands polyclinic on Sunday.

'Putting a dollar value to that is not unethical,' he added, suggesting that the amount would likely be in the tens of thousands of dollars, since it has to last the donor the rest of his life.

His remarks are a sea change from his earlier stance a few months ago which seemed to preclude any kind of organ trading whatsoever.

But Mr Khaw has been gradually shifting his stance since, as debate grew following a high-profile court case involving retailer Tan Wee Tsung's attempt to buy a kidney fron an Indonesian.

Mr Khaw also drew a distinction between inducement - 'you're poor, I'm rich, I'll give you $1m for your kidney'' - and reimbursement.

'I think if we stick to the reimbursement side of the equation, we'll remain ethical.
 

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Last evening I was paying a visit to my favorite person, let's call him Ah Seng, when the banner flashed 'Gov studying ways to reimburse organ donors to strangers' on the screen of the TV. It distracted me for a while until Ah Seng brought me back pointing the new girls out to me. Ah Seng, if you have to know, is a pimp.

I picked out the service staff whose duty, amongst others, was to sit on my face. But I was brought back time and again during the session by the newsflash. In the Tang Wee Sung case, Mr Tang,I remembered, was fined $17,000 and jailed for a day for attempting to buy a kidney. The Indonesian seller of the organ, Sulaiman Damanik, was jailed 2 weeks and fined $1,000. The middleman, Wang Chin Sing, who brokered the deal between Tang and Sulaiman, was jailed a total of 14 months.

Now it looks like the gov has stepped in to 'regulate' the transactions. Obviously the recipient of the organ has to pay a hefty sum, both for the organ and the surgical procedures. The gov takes an X amount of this to 'reimburse' the donor, while taking a cut, which could end up in the coffers of some charities, for all I know. In my books, that looks suspiciously like the work of a middleman, especially if the buyer pays a cool million and the donor gets a meager $50K. And if you remember well, Mr Wang was jailed 14 months for this.

My mood fouled, I dressed, came out of the room to pay the pimp, Ah Seng. One of the reason why I like Ah Seng is his honesty. He is not afraid nor shy to be a middleman of these girls, or be called a pimp.
 

SIFU

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i have 50k.. i want to buy khaw boon wan's kidney to cook soup..

this guy is a f*&^king satan in disguise..:mad:

he and that vivian sissy are the 2 most cold-blooded animals in PAP :mad:
 

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What Khaw Boon Wan is saying is simple as far as I understand. If Government makes money, it's ethical, if private citizens makes money, it's unethical. However, the the kidney to be donated in question, is flesh and blood of the private citizen concerned, not the Governments'. Who the hell is he or government to arbitrarily assume ownership and moral custody of our body organs?

What not just introduce an organ transplant tax?
 

Ramseth

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What I want to do with my body and the organs therein is my personal business. If sale for my personal income or gain is criminalised, so be it. I won't break the law. Nobody will get it, even if it's useful to prolong somebody else's life which I'd like to see. The blood is not on my hands. The blood is on the government's hands. But they only see money, not blood.
 

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i have 50k.. i want to buy khaw boon wan's kidney to cook soup..

this guy is a f*&^king satan in disguise..:mad:

he and that vivian sissy are the 2 most cold-blooded animals in PAP :mad:
I want to buy the other one. :smile:
 
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