Serious It's Official! Jiuhu Moslem Religious Laws Causes Moslem Marriages To Be Unhappy And Break Down! 97% Declared Retards!

[JohnTan]

KUALA LUMPUR — Close to a quarter of Muslim women in Malaysia surveyed still believe that a husband can strike his wife, citing the religious concept of “nusyuz” or refusing to obey a husband’s wishes or commands.

According to the survey by rights group Sisters in Islam (SIS) on Muslim women’s realities in Malaysia, this “disobedience” can include leaving the house without a husband’s consent to simply refusing sex.

“Worryingly, 21 per cent of respondents believe that a husband has a right to beat his wife. Among those who accept this, the concept of nusyuz appears to provide a justification,” said the report titled Perception and Realities: The Public and Personal Rights of Muslim Women in Malaysia published on Tuesday (Oct 15).

The survey also found that almost all respondents, at 97 per cent, said that Muslim women must obey their husbands, and that obedience defines a woman as a “good wife”.


Among the respondents, 88 per cent agreed that leaving the house without the husband’s consent counts as “nusyuz”.

In comparison, the percentages of those who felt these actions count as “nusyuz” include: Refusing to move with the husband (54 per cent), refusing to have sexual intercourse (52 per cent), refusing to open the door for the husband (50 per cent), or refusing to answer when the husband calls (46 per cent).


“Under these circumstances, they believe a husband may beat his wife. They believe that these are acts of disobedience by the wife, and therefore the husband is permitted to strike her.

“This goes directly against the principles of the Quran and is in complete contradiction to the practice of Prophet Muhammad who never hit his wife under any circumstances,” the report explained.

However, proponents of punishment against women usually cite religious scriptures to back the act of beating “disobedient wives”.


These include verse 4:34 of the Quran which said: “But those (wives) from whom you fear arrogance — (first) advise them; (then if they persist), forsake them in bed; and (finally), strike them.”

SIS said this “uncompromising duty to obey one’s husband” has led to harm and injustices against women, such as the reluctance to report domestic violence including marital rape, being stopped from going work, forgoing opportunities to study, and being unable to plan their family.

The report also showed that while 89 per cent of respondents felt that they are equal to their spouse, merely 57 per cent felt they can leave the marriage at any time.

Section 59 of the Islamic Family Law (Federal Territory) Act 1984 states that a wife shall be entitled to maintenance when she is “nusyuz”, and can only revert when she “repents and obeys” the husband.

“This concept plays a central role in institutionalising, justifying and sustaining a patriarchal model of families in the Muslim context, and must be challenged.

“Far from creating harmony in marriage, these laws are among the main causes of marital breakdown and violence against women. There is thus an urgent need for reform,” SIS said in its report.

The survey was conducted by research firm Ipsos between 2018 and 2019 through two phases, with the quantitative phase involving 675 Muslim women across the country aged between 18 and 55. MALAY MAIL

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[ilovechinesegal]

@whoami @mudhatter

Your religion sucks!

 

[spotter542]

Religion of peace my ass

 

[Hypocrite-The]

What a good religion....I now want to sign up...an obedient Chio wife is a gift to the husband..and can get 4 wives some more..Lagi better

 

[bobby]

Got muslim AWARE movement...it is called AWAS.

 

[mudhatter]

@whoami @mudhatter

Your religion sucks!

fuck off bloody chink bastard.

go back to your tiongkok enjoy commie reeducation camp and bullshit marxist garbage

chinks such pathetic creatures

even their current commie despicable authoritarian regime

had to steal and copy a knock off of a jewish ideology.

no brains, no creativity, no originality

 

[laksaboy]

Religion of peace my ass

I disagree with you. Islam is indeed a religion of peace.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

 

[syed putra]

A good spanking before a bonk should be good no?

 

[laksaboy]

A good spanking before a bonk should be good no?

I prefer wrestling moves: a clothesline, a suplex, a frog splash and then finally a submission move.

 

[ChristJohnny]

m&d = Mostly Moslem
Moslem = Low IQ

Therefore, no matter what their religion will be ... they will still be the same.

IQ and Race

 

[Leongsam]

Sounds like an excellent religion to me. It will keep women in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong.

 

[whoami]

Sounds like an excellent religion to me. It will keep women in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong.

Sinkie are losers. When a woman started demanding this and tat, they kpkb char bo abused the Women Charter Act. Whichever way Islamic Act or Woman Charter, sinkies will never stop complaining.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

fuck off bloody chink bastard.

go back to your tiongkok enjoy commie reeducation camp and bullshit marxist garbage

chinks such pathetic creatures

even their current commie despicable authoritarian regime

had to steal and copy a knock off of a jewish ideology.

no brains, no creativity, no originality

Muslim is a clone of Judaism

 

[JohnTan]

So if some pig here follows his own quran and hadith, he should be banging his own maid in her own bed.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

What it's like to be in a polygamous marriage? Muslim Malaysians share their stories
ABC Radio National
By Damien Carrick for Shifting Cultures
Updated Sat at 9:17pm

PHOTO: Muslim men in Malaysia can have up to four wives, and though the practice isn't widespread, it is alive. (ABC RN: Nashrin Alhady)
RELATED STORY: Before this judge will grant a man a polygamous marriage, she asks his 'first wife' one question
Qobin has climbed the highest mountain on every continent on Earth.

He's skied the South Pole and the North Pole, 111 kilometres each, across some of the world's most unforgiving terrain.

He jokes that the far greater challenge — even harder than reaching the summit of Everest — is having two wives.

"It is not easy to take care of people's hearts," he says.

"This is my faith, so I have to do my best for both wives and then I have to take it as a challenge in myself."

PHOTO: Qobin is an adventurer who hopes to one day be Malaysia's sports minister. (ABC RN: Nashrin Alhady)


The 37-year-old has six children — four with his first wife and two with his second.

His two families live in separate homes, about 10 kilometres apart, in Malaysia's capital Kuala Lumpur.

It's a hyper-modern metropolis, a city of overhead driverless trains, snaking freeways and soaring skyscrapers.

Muslim Malay, Chinese and Indian communities happily work, eat and shop together, but they maintain their distinct traditions.

Perhaps one of the biggest differences is that Muslim men can have up to four wives.

Although only a small percentage of marriages are polygamous, the practice is alive and well: each year in Malaysia, more than 1,000 men go to the Sharia Law Courts to apply for a polygamous marriage.

Two nights with one wife, then two nights with the other
Qobin, whose full name is Muhammad Muqharabbin Mokhtarrudin, exemplifies Kuala Lumpur's unique mix of traditional and modern.

As well as running several businesses, he's an aspiring politician who hopes to one day be Malaysia's sports minister.

Listen to the story

Muslim Malaysians often have complex and tangled views about polygamy. ABC RN's Damien Carrick talks to people on all sides of the debate.


He says he "never planned" on having two wives.

Lowering his voice, he says he loves his first wife and describes her as "perfect".

But after eight years of marriage, when Qobin was visiting Thailand, he met the woman who would become his second wife.

"I am a very straight person," he says.

"I don't want to lie to my wife, so I talk to her about the second one."

After a few months, his first wife accepted the idea.

Qobin spends two nights with one spouse and then two nights with the other.

The two households get together for family events and both wives regularly mind each other's children.

He tries to be fair — what he buys for one wife he also buys for the other — but Qobin acknowledges that jealousy is still an issue.

"I always pray to Allah that he will take care of their hearts," he says, adding that problems for his wives become problems for him.

A complicated matter
But why would a woman agree to be a second wife? And why does a first wife agree to it?

A few years ago, Dr Wan Zumusni Wan Mustapha, or Zunie for short, worked on a research project with feminist organisation Sisters in Islam, which surveyed and interviewed more than 1,000 people in polygamous families: husbands, first wives, second wives and children.

PHOTO: Zunie says for many women, marriage offers opportunities and comfort. (ABC RN: Nashrin Alhady)


She discovered that women have a number of motivations for becoming a second wife.

"Most importantly women want to be taken care of. They want to be provided [for], they want to be protected," says Zunie, who is also a senior lecturer at Academy of Language Studies at the Universiti of Teknologi MARA.

"There are still many women out there who are struggling, working very hard and if they do have the chance for a comfortable life — why not?"


The female judge who decides if men can take a second wife

Damien Carrick meets Judge Nenney Shushaidah, the female face of sharia law in Malaysia.


Zunie says sometimes women are trying to deflect the negative attention that comes from being single.

Becoming a second wife allows them to "upgrade their status".

"Most importantly, if they have a husband they won't be harassed by other men," she adds.

When it comes to first wives, the researchers found many are coerced or pushed into accepting their husband's decision.

"Some voice their dissatisfaction but some, in order to save the marriage or for the sake of the children, will just go on with it," Zunie says.

Sisters in Islam also recently conducted a separate survey of Muslim Malaysian women.

It found that while 70 per cent agreed that Muslim men have a right to polygamous marriages so long as they can treat all wives fairly, only 30 per cent would allow their own husband to marry another woman.

Zunie says the first wives she talked to in her previous research were "unhappy, miserable and depressed".

"I don't see how it can be in the interests of the first wives," she says.

But it's complicated: Zunie herself has also been a second wife.

Polygamy in Malaysia

• Muslim men can have up to four wives.
• Most Muslim marriages are not polygamous.
• But each year more than 1,000 men apply for a polygamous union.
• They do this via the Islamic law courts.
• Under Malaysia's two-tier court system, Islamic courts deal with family law, including polygamy, and morality cases such as consuming alcohol and gambling.
• Secular courts hear criminal and many civil cases.
• There is debate among some Muslim Malaysians about the rights and wrongs of multiple marriages.

'I don't need a husband 24/7'
Zunie's polygamous marriage was not the usual kind, if there is such a thing: she married her best friend from high school.

He and his wife had been unable to have children.

Zunie, who already had four boys from a previous marriage, thought she could help him have a child.

"I already had my own career, my own life, so I thought that I don't mind being a weekend wife, I don't need a husband 24/7," she says.

"So I thought OK, this can work for me."

The couple married and Zunie fell pregnant, but it soon became apparent that the first wife was unhappy.

Eventually, Zunie decided it was best for everyone to end the marriage.

The divorced couple remain close friends and while their son lives with Zunie, he spends time with his father and his father's first wife.

Interpretations of the Koran
Most Muslim marriages are not polygamous and there is a debate among Muslim Malaysians about the rights and wrongs of multiple marriages.

Zainah Anwar runs an international organisation called Musawah, which means "equality" in Arabic.

PHOTO: Zainah says it depends on who is interpreting the Koran as to how it is applied to women. (ABC RN: Nashrin Alhady)


Musawah promotes gender equality in family law systems across Muslim majority countries.

Zainah was also one of the co-founders of Sisters in Islam.

Since its creation 20 years ago, the group has argued that Islam — at its heart — upholds the equality of women.

Zainah describes studying the Koran as an incredibly liberating, enlightening experience.

"We discovered verses that [are] completely the opposite of what we are told by the ideologues of Islam that dominate the public space," she says.

"The verse on polygamy actually says 'to do justice it is best that you only marry one'.

"So how come that the first half of the verse — that you can marry two, three, four — becomes commonly known as a men's right in Islam? But the end of the verse — that [says] it is best to marry only one to prevent injustice — is forgotten?"

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• Why young South Koreans call their country 'Hell Joseon'
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You can also listen to the podcast here.



Zainah says it is important to question how one interpretation of the Koran gains legitimacy at the expense of another alternative interpretation.

"That is why we decided we need to bring out this other understanding of Islam, this other message of Islam that is for women's rights, justice, compassion [and] equality to the public space," she says.

"The Islam defined by the patriarchy and the ideologues in authority is not the only understanding of Islam."

Qobin says his first wife's family have accepted his decision to take a second wife and his father-in-law even teases him about him taking a third wife.

"I think I will have only two wives," he says.

And would Zunie — a financially independent feminist — ever contemplate another polygamous marriage?

"On the one hand I feel empowered. I can live on my own, I have my boys," she says.

"But on the other hand, it would be nice. If there was someone that loves me and could protect and provide for me — why not?"

 

[Hypocrite-The]

The female sharia law judge who decides if men can take a second wife
ABC Radio National
By Damien Carrick for Shifting Cultures
Updated about 3 hours ago

PHOTO: Judge Nenney Shushaidah rules on polygamy cases, and always wants to hear from the first wife. (ABC RN: Khaldoun Abou Alshamat)
RELATED STORY: 'I don't mind being a weekend wife, I don't need a husband 24/7'
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Nenney Shushaidah is the female face of Islamic law in Malaysia.

The country's first female sharia state high court judge, she decides whether a man can take a second wife.

Muslim men in the country can have up to four wives, and each year more than 1,000 men go to the courts to apply for a polygamous marriage.

Judge Nenney sometimes works to convince distressed or reluctant women to agree to it, a move she says ultimately protects their rights.

But she says her heart would be broken if her own husband ever wanted to marry another.

A simple question for first wives
The sharia high court of the state of Selangor is in the city of Shah Alam, 30 kilometres west of Malaysia's bustling capital Kuala Lumpur.

PHOTO: Kuala Lumpur is a large urban metropolis. The city of Shah Alam is 30 kilometres away. (ABC RN: Damien Carrick)


It's a modern, leafy administrative centre that feels a bit like a tropical Canberra.

The city is dominated by the Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah Mosque.

Completed in 1988, it's the largest mosque in the country and is crowned with a spectacular 100-metre-high blue dome.

PHOTO: Also known as Blue Mosque, this spectacular structure dominates the city. (Getty: Ratnakorn Piyasirisorost)


About 300 metres from the mosque, across landscaped gardens and a six-lane avenue, are the state sharia courts and Judge Nenney's chambers.

Sitting in the court library surrounded by shelves of beautifully bound legal texts, Judge Nenney explains the circumstances in which a sharia law judge will consider allowing a husband to take another wife.

Polygamy in Malaysia

• Muslim men can have up to four wives.
• Most Muslim marriages are not polygamous.
• But each year more than 1,000 men apply for a polygamous union.
• They do this via the Islamic law courts.
• Under Malaysia's two-tier court system, Islamic courts deal with family law, including polygamy, and morality cases such as consuming alcohol and gambling.
• Secular courts hear criminal and many civil cases.
• There is debate among some Muslim Malaysians about the rights and wrongs of multiple marriages.

Polygamous marriages are allowed if the first wife is not healthy, or cannot produce children.

They are also allowed if the husband's sex drive is higher than his wife's.

The judge must be satisfied that the husband can afford to support two families.

Unlike some judges, Judge Nenney always wants to hear from a first wife.

"I ask her, 'Do you really agree with your full heart or have you been forced to agree?'" she says.

She knows the answer simply from looking at the woman's face.

"If she is smiling, I say yes, she has truly given permission," Judge Nenney says.

"But if her face wants to cry in front of me I will ask her carefully, in detail, try to get the point — why actually [does] she not agree?"

Protecting women's rights
PHOTO: Judge Nenney says she works to ensure the rights of woman are protected by law. (ABC RN: Khaldoun Abou Alshamat)


Some wives don't want to share their husband with another woman.

A recent survey by the feminist group Sisters in Islam found that while 70 per cent of women agree that a Muslim man has a right to a polygamous marriage, provided he can treat all wives fairly, only 30 per cent would allow their own husband to marry another woman.

Judge Nenney says while Sisters in Islam is entitled to its views, it is the Islamic Religious Council of Selangor that decides how the courts apply and interpret Islamic law.

Listen to the story

Join Damien Carrick as he heads to Malaysia to find out how cultures around polygamy are shifting.


She says she tries to convince reluctant women to accept the registration of the second marriage, in order to protect their rights.

"I just say, 'Your heart will be broken the same, just in this court you will get your rights — your maintenance, your children's rights, your inheritance,'" Judge Nenney says.

If the husband doesn't get permission from her court, she says, he can easily circumvent the decision by marrying in a neighbouring country.

On his return, he can register the marriage, and is simply made to pay a paltry fine.

"Better her husband go through this court case than he go to Thailand, Singapore or Indonesia to marry without the permission of the court," Judge Nenney says.

PHOTO: Around one in 10 polygamy cases proceed to a full trial in the sharia state high court (pictured on right). (ABC RN: Khaldoun Abou Alshamat)


Judge Nenney, who was appointed in 2016, says 90 per cent of the first wives who appear before do agree to a second marriage.

The remaining 10 per cent of cases proceed to a full trial.

At these trials, Judge Nenney rules against the husband in about 60 per cent of cases, usually because the husband doesn't have enough money to support two families.

Moral offences and the cane as punishment
PHOTO: Judge Nenney says the sharia courts and their punishments play a valuable educational role. (ABC RN: Khaldoun Abou Alshamat)


In addition to family law matters, the Sharia courts also have jurisdiction to hear what are known as moral offences.

Judges can impose penalties for personal behaviours that are forbidden under Islam: sex outside marriage, gambling or drinking.

Judge Nenney says every week she hears cases where a couple is charged for having sex outside marriage.

She always imposes a fine of 5,000 Malaysian ringgit (around $1,700) and six strikes of a cane.

The caning, she says, is not painful and is designed to be symbolic or educational.

What it's like in a polygamous marriage

In modern Malaysia, views on polygamy are tangled and complex, and beliefs don't always align with actions.


She says the person who canes the offender always has their upper arm positioned firmly against their torso — it is only the movement of the limp wrist that powers the impact of the cane.

Asked if she hopes that one day no-one will be fined or caned for private behaviour, Judge Nenney says she would actually like harsher penalties.

She would like to increase the fines up to 20,000 ringgit ($7,000) and increase the canes from six up to 10 or 20.

"We are limited in our power now. We need more," she says.

"But education is important to me."

PHOTO: Inside the sharia state high court of Selangor, where Judge Nenney rules on polygamy and 'moral offence' cases. (ABC RN: Khaldoun Abou Alshamat)


She says if people know the punishment is harsh, "they will not do it again".

She also wants bigger penalties for men who fail to pay maintenance, or who ignore other court orders relating to their family responsibilities.

As a woman, not a judge

I ask Judge Nenney how she would react if her husband told her he planned to take a second wife.

When she hears the question, she nods her head; clearly she has given this considerable thought.

She says she would have exactly the same feelings as some of the women who appear in her courtroom.

"As a woman it would break your heart," she says.

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• Listen to the series on ABC Radio National or wherever you get your podcasts

Judge Nenney says she would wonder why she wasn't enough, and be fearful for the future.

"He will change after marry. He will not love us like before," she explains.

But, like the women who come before her in the Sharia court, Judge Nenney says she would work to ensure her rights, and those of her children, were protected by law.

"The court cares about your rights after the second marriage," she says.