Serious It's Official! Allowing Covid-19 To Run Wild To Attain Herd Immunity Is A Fucking Stupid Idea!

[JohnTan]

SINGAPORE — Singapore’s strategy against Covid-19 does not involve the attainment of herd immunity in the population through natural spread of the infection as this would be “too big a price” to pay, said Ministry of Health (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak.

Speaking at a media briefing on Tuesday (May 12), Assoc Prof Mak said: “If we assume that we're going to let Covid-19 spread freely in a population, we will then have to accept the cost associated with more seniors getting ill, more seniors getting complications and an undetermined number of seniors even dying from infection.”


This would also lead to a very “dangerous” situation of having a high number of Covid-19 patients potentially in Singapore’s hospitals and intensive care units.

“Even though we've taken many steps to prepare for surges to expand our capacity, it can easily be overwhelmed with a strategy of moving to herd immunity,” he added, in response to a question from the media on what percentage of the population needed to be infected before herd immunity could be achieved.

Herd immunity refers to a situation where most of a population is immune to an infectious disease — whether through previous infections or vaccination — and this provides indirect protection to those who are not immune to the disease. In the case of Covid-19, a vaccine has yet to be developed.

MOH director of communicable diseases Vernon Lee said that experts believe that about 60 to 80 per cent of the population need to be immune or previously infected and recovered, before herd immunity is achieved.


That is a “very large number”, he said.

Referring to studies of countries with large numbers of infections, Dr Lee said serological testing found a low percentage of people who tested positive, way below the threshold required for herd immunity.

Assoc Prof Mak pointed out that this was a reason why the United Kingdom toyed with the herd immunity strategy but decided in the end that “the cost was too big, too painful for them to pay as well”.


He noted that Sweden is perhaps the only country “closest to” trying to achieve herd immunity. “But even then if you look at their mortality rates… (Sweden’s death toll) is still in the thousands,” he said.

As of Monday evening, Sweden has recorded 3,256 Covid-19 deaths.

With good containment, Singapore will not reach a situation where herd immunity is achieved unless a vaccine is developed, Assoc Prof Mak reiterated.

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...l-herd-immunity-against-covid-19-moh-official

 

[glockman]

Majulah PAP! Majulah Kenneth Mak!

 

[Hypocrite-The]

SINGAPORE — Singapore’s strategy against Covid-19 does not involve the attainment of herd immunity in the population through natural spread of the infection as this would be “too big a price” to pay, said Ministry of Health (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak.

Speaking at a media briefing on Tuesday (May 12), Assoc Prof Mak said: “If we assume that we're going to let Covid-19 spread freely in a population, we will then have to accept the cost associated with more seniors getting ill, more seniors getting complications and an undetermined number of seniors even dying from infection.”


This would also lead to a very “dangerous” situation of having a high number of Covid-19 patients potentially in Singapore’s hospitals and intensive care units.

“Even though we've taken many steps to prepare for surges to expand our capacity, it can easily be overwhelmed with a strategy of moving to herd immunity,” he added, in response to a question from the media on what percentage of the population needed to be infected before herd immunity could be achieved.

Herd immunity refers to a situation where most of a population is immune to an infectious disease — whether through previous infections or vaccination — and this provides indirect protection to those who are not immune to the disease. In the case of Covid-19, a vaccine has yet to be developed.

MOH director of communicable diseases Vernon Lee said that experts believe that about 60 to 80 per cent of the population need to be immune or previously infected and recovered, before herd immunity is achieved.


That is a “very large number”, he said.

Referring to studies of countries with large numbers of infections, Dr Lee said serological testing found a low percentage of people who tested positive, way below the threshold required for herd immunity.

Assoc Prof Mak pointed out that this was a reason why the United Kingdom toyed with the herd immunity strategy but decided in the end that “the cost was too big, too painful for them to pay as well”.


He noted that Sweden is perhaps the only country “closest to” trying to achieve herd immunity. “But even then if you look at their mortality rates… (Sweden’s death toll) is still in the thousands,” he said.

As of Monday evening, Sweden has recorded 3,256 Covid-19 deaths.

With good containment, Singapore will not reach a situation where herd immunity is achieved unless a vaccine is developed, Assoc Prof Mak reiterated.

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...l-herd-immunity-against-covid-19-moh-official

Yawn....where have I heard this BS b4? Just bcos the fucking Drs n nurses etc dont want to work..they come up with this sort of crap so they work less and get same pay...the medical corporations yr ill health and longevity is in their best interests

 

[Hypocrite-The]

South Korean investigators trawl digital data to find people linked to nightclub coronavirus cluster - ABC News
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A notice on a closed dance club in Seoul says gatherings are prohibited.
Hundreds of new coronavirus cases linked to Seoul nightclubs have sparked fears about a second wave of infections.(AP: Ahn Young-Joon, File)
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South Korean authorities have combed through mobile phone data, credit card statements and CCTV footage to identify people who visited nightclubs at the centre of one of the capital's biggest coronavirus clusters.

Key points:
Health authorities have tracked and tested thousands of people linked to nightclubs and bars in Seoul's Itaewon nightlife area
However they are still seeking others they have not been able to identify
Authorities fear some could be put off coming forward for testing, as many of the clubs have been identified as gay bars
More than 100 new cases linked to the nightclubs have brought fears of a second wave of infections in a country held up as a coronavirus-mitigation success story.

Health authorities have tracked and tested thousands of people linked to the nightclubs and bars in Seoul's Itaewon nightlife neighbourhood, but want to find others who they have not been able to identify.

"We are using telecom station information and credit card transactions from the nightclubs to identify 1,982 of those who are not available," health ministry official Yoon Tae-ho said.

The Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) on Tuesday (local time) said at least 102 people had tested positive in connection with the cases linked to nightclubs and bars.

Seoul Mayor Park Won-soon said 7,272 people had been tested in connection with the cluster, including family members or co-workers of clubgoers.

Officials had identified 10,905 people who were in the Itaewon area when the cluster of cases is believed to have got going this month, based on mobile phone information, and another 494 who used credit cards, Mr Park said.

Authorities fear because some of the establishments were known as gay bars, some people could be put off coming forward for testing, because homosexuality remains taboo for many Koreans.

Media outlets have identified the nightclubs the first patient visited as gay clubs, sparking concern LGBTQ people could be outed against their will or face discrimination.

Mr Park said another 20-year-old man who had visited a different club had tested positive, raising concern the outbreak may not be limited to the venues initially identified.

Anonymity boosts testing
A birds eye view of a testing facility in Seoul where several people are waiting to be tested.
People wait to be tested at a facility in Seoul.(AP: Choi Jae-Gu/Yonhap)
Human rights group Amnesty International said some media outlets were making the authorities' prevention and disinfection measures more difficult by pointing fingers at a "certain group" of patients.

"Amnesty International Korea Branch urges the authorities and media to take concrete and selective measures to prevent discrimination and stigmatisation," the group said.

Given the sensitivity, authorities have introduced what they call "anonymous testing", with people only needing to provide a phone number and not a name.

Mr Park said the number of people getting tested had doubled as a result of the new service.

South Korea has been widely praised for its prompt action during the pandemic, with massive testing and aggressive contact-tracing significantly reducing the rate of new infections in recent weeks to fewer than 10 cases a day before this new outbreak.

Officials reported 27 new coronavirus infections across the country as of midnight on Monday, the fifth day of double-digit cases after the first case at the nightclubs was revealed last week.

In all, South Korea has recorded 10,936 cases of coronavirus and 258 deaths.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Lockdowns only work by destroying the economy

 

[nirvarq]

Don’t kid yourselves is it not already running wild in dorms ?

What’s the diff of dorm vs sg island when we all visit the same hawkers centers & markets everyday.

Try testing the common folks at large ?

 

[JohnTan]

Don’t kid yourselves is it not already running wild in dorms ?

What’s the diff of dorm vs sg island when we all visit the same hawkers centers & markets everyday.

Try testing the common folks at large ?

Nearly all of the dorm residents are still alive. Don't overreact and sow panic.

 

[syed putra]

Not 9nly are the banglas alive, they are probably not even sick those tested positive for covid.

 

[JohnTan]

Not 9nly are the banglas alive, they are probably not even sick those tested positive for covid.

The banglas are having a great time now. No need to work yet get free food, free wifi, free lodging and salaries still paid. It's like getting their 72 virgins in paradise.

 

[winnipegjets]

Lockdowns only work by destroying the economy

There will not be an economy if people are dying by the thousands each day. Would you accept a plane crash daily?

 

[Dr Christopher Cheok C S]

We screwed up badly this time because we refused to take the recommendations of our veteran infectious disease expert Prof Dr Paul Tambyah

 

[sweetiepie]

SINGAPORE — Singapore’s strategy against Covid-19 does not involve the attainment of herd immunity in the population through natural spread of the infection as this would be “too big a price” to pay, said Ministry of Health (MOH) director of medical services Kenneth Mak.

Speaking at a media briefing on Tuesday (May 12), Assoc Prof Mak said: “If we assume that we're going to let Covid-19 spread freely in a population, we will then have to accept the cost associated with more seniors getting ill, more seniors getting complications and an undetermined number of seniors even dying from infection.”


This would also lead to a very “dangerous” situation of having a high number of Covid-19 patients potentially in Singapore’s hospitals and intensive care units.

“Even though we've taken many steps to prepare for surges to expand our capacity, it can easily be overwhelmed with a strategy of moving to herd immunity,” he added, in response to a question from the media on what percentage of the population needed to be infected before herd immunity could be achieved.

Herd immunity refers to a situation where most of a population is immune to an infectious disease — whether through previous infections or vaccination — and this provides indirect protection to those who are not immune to the disease. In the case of Covid-19, a vaccine has yet to be developed.

MOH director of communicable diseases Vernon Lee said that experts believe that about 60 to 80 per cent of the population need to be immune or previously infected and recovered, before herd immunity is achieved.


That is a “very large number”, he said.

Referring to studies of countries with large numbers of infections, Dr Lee said serological testing found a low percentage of people who tested positive, way below the threshold required for herd immunity.

Assoc Prof Mak pointed out that this was a reason why the United Kingdom toyed with the herd immunity strategy but decided in the end that “the cost was too big, too painful for them to pay as well”.


He noted that Sweden is perhaps the only country “closest to” trying to achieve herd immunity. “But even then if you look at their mortality rates… (Sweden’s death toll) is still in the thousands,” he said.

As of Monday evening, Sweden has recorded 3,256 Covid-19 deaths.

With good containment, Singapore will not reach a situation where herd immunity is achieved unless a vaccine is developed, Assoc Prof Mak reiterated.

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...l-herd-immunity-against-covid-19-moh-official

KNN my uncle is fully with you on this KNN herd immunity for covid19 is ridiculous and stoopid idea only for the young and looney loners KNN

 

[winnipegjets]

Not stupid lah. Just the willingness to kill lots of people.

 

[nirvarq]

Nearly all of the dorm residents are still alive. Don't overreact and sow panic.

That's the facts they're all not only alive but they're 19,498 cases who have mild symptoms, or are clinically well but still test positive for COVID-19 are isolated and cared for at community facilities. https://www.gov.sg/article/covid-19-cases-in-singapore

I think it is the government that is overreacting and not seeing the truth and you're mimicking them blindly and it's not helping at all.

 

[Leongsam]

There will not be an economy if people are dying by the thousands each day. Would you accept a plane crash daily?

The mortality rate is similar to the flu so if we can handle the flu without shutting down we can do the same with Covid-19.

People die every day. That's how the life cycle works.

 

[nirvarq]

There will not be an economy if people are dying by the thousands each day. Would you accept a plane crash daily?

Did people just drop dead like in Wuhan ? Want to talk herd immunity ? Sweden has 26322 & 3225 death we have 23822 & 20 death (probably near to half of dead are imported cases with existing sickness ? ) Shouldn't we go back to not sick don't wear mask and tell the world we're wrong to follow them, we're different. Talk is cheap look at the records and facts !

Look at our own data and facts don't scare yourself blindly.......... We're different our own data and facts is proof is it not ? That's what i've been trying to let ya'll know since day 1 we're different and SG government has done a great job has been the greatest government ever we're different our Healthcare is robust and bestest our people are strong and healthy even our Bangalas though sick but yet healthy and clinically fit despite tested positive, we've no homeless or beggars.

https://www.gov.sg/article/covid-19-cases-in-singapore

We're Sovereign PAP banzai ~~ !

Our government has not or dare not wake up to our own facts and proof, yet..... ? Making mistakes is inevitable we are humans after all and who has never faulted and plus we have to follow international rules, but but..... it's time to wake up no scared mai kia, my hum ! Fark the cb ~~ ! (*Please don't start crying it's hilarious when you've to blink the eyes 5 times trying to squeeze the precious teardrop to come out. lol...... )

Yo, you get my drift ... ?

Where's our plane crash everyday ? We're bestest airport in the world
https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/05/12/singapore-s-changi-airport-crowned-world-best-airport/