It is better for GMS to announce to the public after selling his flat

[RonRon]

GMS what is ur intention of publicizing to the whole world that you are having a problem and need to sell ur flat to raise fund? To gain sympathy votes or simply need some attentions or some warm consolation from the cyber world? If you want to become a MP to serve the people, you should be a solutions to the community and not burden everyone with your problems. Let me tell you, the impact will be greater if you quietly sell your flat and then announce it in a rally, the people will respect you more.
Now i will be watching if you really will sell your flat or just putting up a wayang show to gain some cheap publicity from the internet..Do not behave like those wayang MP in Taiwan..it dosen't work in Singapore as long as under my watch

 

[rodent2005]

You PAP mole is clutching at straws.

You PAP ministers always announce way beforehand that PAP is going to spend this millions of dollars to help the poor. You PAP ministers always say this big event will generate how much income ... and many other cases.

And mind you, PAP ministers blow their own trumpets by spending Singapore's money and not their own money and when these are their responsibilities since they are paid millions.

Until and unless PAP let themselves be audited to make sure everything they announced has always come true, you PAP has no right to make demands on anyone, especially when you think buying your own dinner is such big deal that you must announce to the world.

PAP's mentality is that even their own dinners must be paid by taxpayers and must announce to the world when they paid for their own dinners. Compared with GMS, PAP loses totally.

 

[RonRon]

Don't change the subject answer the question

 

[leetahbar]

for political wannabes who are desperate to clinch mp post, maybe they should not stand up for erection. (he would cum all over voters' faces:p)

just like prof walter woon quoted that he wasn't so hard up for the AG posting. if he is, then he would feel very restricted.

political GE wannabes must put voters before self and vy to better their lives and fight lousy lame policies when voted in as their mp.

from the recent internal spate between opp parties especially initiated by SDP, they might just as well kill each other off even before GE. even if they have not, such fracas have shown how lame petty opp prominent members can behave without considering the overall damage they can do to their ex-party from which they felt aggireved.

these are the people who put self before the greater interests. how can one trust them to manage ur ward as their mp? sometime i feel mps are just there for the money. the $14K per month is just too good to miss!

i also wannabe the next mp. would u vote for me?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear RonRon,

I did not intend to make this an issue but my friend Ramseth has posted about it without my knowing. Nevertheless, what is done is done.

On hindsight, I think revealing this little piece of information early is also good. People like you will have another line of questioning my intention later, maybe during GE if you find out I have sold my flat. You will start to say that "Oh, how can voters vote for someone who has sold out everything and prepared to run road?" Right? There is no way, no best way to reveal such things and personally I do not prefer to. But as public figures, I also understand that it is somewhat expected of us to compromise our privacy one way or another.

The bottom line is, I have nothing to hide. I have no problem in funding my own self to stand as candidate. But as the leader of the party and the Tampines team, I have a heavier responsibility in taking care of the overall strategic campaigning. I need to take care of more people and more candidates.

The Sin Ming reporter called this morning and ask me about this matter. I said it is a small matter. It is part and parcel of election campaign financial needs. She wanted to know how much is needed for one candidate and what are the expenses. I told her for one candidate, apart from the $14K election deposit, you will need about $10K of expenses. What are the expenses for? Printing of posters and banners, hiring people to put them up and take them down. Printing of flyers and engage contractors or send them to voters via Singpost. Finance the nightly rallies. Each rally cost about $3K per night (very conservative estimates) with stage with generator and lightings $1K plus, PA system another $1K plus, renting of site, food and drinks for volunteers... etc. We also need to take care of food and drinks for polling agents and counting agents.

Cash upfront for a candidate is about $24K (with election deposits). 20 candidates? Expenses about $200K. Election deposits? $180K. You go figure it out. Freedom is not free.

Goh Meng Seng

GMS what is ur intention of publicizing to the whole world that you are having a problem and need to sell ur flat to raise fund? To gain sympathy votes or simply need some attentions or some warm consolation from the cyber world? If you want to become a MP to serve the people, you should be a solutions to the community and not burden everyone with your problems. Let me tell you, the impact will be greater if you quietly sell your flat and then announce it in a rally, the people will respect you more.
Now i will be watching if you really will sell your flat or just putting up a wayang show to gain some cheap publicity from the internet..Do not behave like those wayang MP in Taiwan..it dosen't work in Singapore as long as under my watch

 

[halsey02]

GMS, NParks is watching you....

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

GMS, NParks is watching you....

Err... watching me for what? I didn't dance on any park... definitely not going to join those who are sleeping on the beaches...

Goh Meng Seng

 

[rodent2005]

Don't change the subject answer the question

Yes, the are millions of questions that PAP has to answer, just some examples:

Why did they take only 3 days to blow billions of Singapore's money into dubious foreign investments?

Was due diligence done?

Who approved the deal?

What is PAP's performance as far as foreign investments is concerned like Suzhou, ABC, Citicorp, Shincorp etc?

What is the employment rate of true blue Singaporeans and don't lump in PRs?

Sigh, PAP's tactic in handling opposition is getting juvenile. PAP not up to it?

 

[Boliao]

You PAP mole is clutching at straws.

You PAP ministers always announce way beforehand that PAP is going to spend this millions of dollars to help the poor. You PAP ministers always say this big event will generate how much income ... and many other cases.

And mind you, PAP ministers blow their own trumpets by spending Singapore's money and not their own money and when these are their responsibilities since they are paid millions.

Until and unless PAP let themselves be audited to make sure everything they announced has always come true, you PAP has no right to make demands on anyone, especially when you think buying your own dinner is such big deal that you must announce to the world.

PAP's mentality is that even their own dinners must be paid by taxpayers and must announce to the world when they paid for their own dinners. Compared with GMS, PAP loses totally.

I think it is fair to ask RonRon why PAP is making announcement on upgrading and stuff prior to election.

In fact, I wanted to ask RonRon what he thinks of PAP threatening to withhold upgrading if they lost when they are using public funds.

 

[halsey02]

Err... watching me for what? I didn't dance on any park... definitely not going to join those who are sleeping on the beaches...

Goh Meng Seng

You are getting it...if you do not win...you may end up having to pitch tents....ahh!! then NParks is watching you... ha ha ha ha

anyway..wish you the best!...make sure you win the fight......and win it with pride....

 

[rodent2005]

Mr. Goh Meng Seng, I salute you. Your action makes you better than all the PAP MPs and IB put together.

All GCT can boast about them is that they bought their own dinners, like this is some incredible feat never done before by anyone ever. Only deep impression I have of them is that they exchanged beauty tips in parliament and try to outdo each other in parroting praises for the ministers.

It's good to spread the word of the kind money opposition have to spend to bring democracy to Singaporeans so that Singaporeans will not take things for granted. But not during election rallies or any formal channels lest Singaporeans think opposition is money-faced but from spreading the word around through the informal grapevine.

 

[Getloud]

I think it is fair to ask RonRon why PAP is making announcement on upgrading and stuff prior to election.

In fact, I wanted to ask RonRon what he thinks of PAP threatening to withhold upgrading if they lost when they are using public funds.

Anyway, they never mention any time frame to spend the 1 Billion for upgrading.
Could be in another 50 years time???

 

[Ramseth]

Anyway, they never mention any time frame to spend the 1 Billion for upgrading.
Could be in another 50 years time???

Mah Bow Tan is Minister for National Development incharge of approvals of upgrading and disbursements of funds. How come Wong Kan Seng made the announcement? Is MBT very busy or hiding somewhere?

 

[scroobal]

We should all be thankful for people like RonRon for raising such questions. I am sure many Singaporeans are unaware like him and do not realise how expensive the PAP has made it for democracy in Singapore. For instance, the elections deposit is the world's highest. It thus stands to reason that only rich people can take part or that funding has to come from the rich. Of course selling one's home to fund it is the ultimate.

Some how I get the impression that he plays the devil's advocate without realising it. Either that or he has poor grasp of politics in Singapore.

Dear RonRon,

Cash upfront for a candidate is about $24K (with election deposits). 20 candidates? Expenses about $200K. Election deposits? $180K. You go figure it out. Freedom is not free.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Ramseth]

Cash upfront for a candidate is about $24K (with election deposits). 20 candidates? Expenses about $200K. Election deposits? $180K.

This is to qualify to stand for election. Quite far from any chance of winning. It'll get you 5 candidates, basic posters, brochures and rally stages only. Nobody ever beat PAP based on basics. Standing for an election and trying to win an election are in two different leagues.

Steve Chia did tried to win twice, in CCK SMC 2001 and 2006. In 2001, he got a consolation prize of NCMP. In 2006, nothing. His total costs for two campaigns as a single candidate, my estimate is easily 6-figured. Had he not got NCMP allowance to recover some costs (and sustained some confidence), he might be too drained to contest 2006, because he's the type that contests to win, not just there to make up numbers.

 

[scroobal]

I get the impression that he is quite new to politics or naive. He has this notion that the incumbent party are allowed any form of publicity while those in opposition must first get in, form a government then allowed to do what they want. In fact, note that all his comments and questions are simplistic or childlike. I initially thought he was in secondary school.

I remember this husband of a PAP kindegarten teacher told me that the law only allows the govenment to run kindergarten in HDB estates. He of course could not cite the law but assumed that it was common sense. He also could not differentiate between government and a political party. Then agan many singaporeans are raised in a system where politics is a taboo subject.

I think it is fair to ask RonRon why PAP is making announcement on upgrading and stuff prior to election.

In fact, I wanted to ask RonRon what he thinks of PAP threatening to withhold upgrading if they lost when they are using public funds.

 

[Ramseth]

I remember this husband of a PAP kindegarten teacher told me that the law only allows the govenment to run kindergarten in HDB estates. He of course could not cite the law but assumed that it was common sense.

Any opposition party or anyone interested can set up and register any public kindergarten, no law forbidding that, whether in PAP or opposition wards. As with any organisation, there're criteria of course. All people involved in executive and teaching positions must have relevant accredited education diplomas at least, and minimum paidup capital S$5m.

 

[RonRon]

By BryanT

There are many who are applauding GMS for being willing to use SOME of the money from his flat sale to fund his election campaign. If he is indeed doing so, then I must commend him too.

But I would like raise just one SMALL point.

For quite a while, GMS has been railing against the runaway prices of HDB flats as part of his strategy to strike at MBT, ala the humorously named “minister-specific” strategy.

Currently HDB resale prices are very high, as indicated by the large quantum of COVs being offered or demanded. GMS blames the government (and MBT) for its foreigner/immigration policies that he says caused this escalation.

Since his family is overseas and he is staying with his aged mother, it makes good monetary sense to liquidate his four-room flat NOW. The house has probably been rented out or been left standing idle.

Ironically, he and his party are now BENEFICIARIES of the runaway HDB prices. Perhaps he should be thanking MBT for inadvertently creating the conditions such that his campaign can be better funded.
I just hope that by the time comes when he needs to buy a flat in Tampines SHOULD he become MP there, house prices would have reduced (or even burst). He can then pocket the difference.

However, when that happens, other flats owners would be cussing – since the prices of their fixed asset value would have dropped. It would be especially devastating for people who bought at the peak.

More specifically, the person (or clown) who is going to buy GMS’s flat will be a very angry person too.

What irony indeed!
http://www.facebook.com/notes/bryan-...y/396568688976

 

[RonRon]

Dear RonRon,

I did not intend to make this an issue but my friend Ramseth has posted about it without my knowing. Nevertheless, what is done is done.

On hindsight, I think revealing this little piece of information early is also good. People like you will have another line of questioning my intention later, maybe during GE if you find out I have sold my flat. You will start to say that "Oh, how can voters vote for someone who has sold out everything and prepared to run road?" Right? There is no way, no best way to reveal such things and personally I do not prefer to. But as public figures, I also understand that it is somewhat expected of us to compromise our privacy one way or another.

The bottom line is, I have nothing to hide. I have no problem in funding my own self to stand as candidate. But as the leader of the party and the Tampines team, I have a heavier responsibility in taking care of the overall strategic campaigning. I need to take care of more people and more candidates.

The Sin Ming reporter called this morning and ask me about this matter. I said it is a small matter. It is part and parcel of election campaign financial needs. She wanted to know how much is needed for one candidate and what are the expenses. I told her for one candidate, apart from the $14K election deposit, you will need about $10K of expenses. What are the expenses for? Printing of posters and banners, hiring people to put them up and take them down. Printing of flyers and engage contractors or send them to voters via Singpost. Finance the nightly rallies. Each rally cost about $3K per night (very conservative estimates) with stage with generator and lightings $1K plus, PA system another $1K plus, renting of site, food and drinks for volunteers... etc. We also need to take care of food and drinks for polling agents and counting agents.

Cash upfront for a candidate is about $24K (with election deposits). 20 candidates? Expenses about $200K. Election deposits? $180K. You go figure it out. Freedom is not free.

Goh Meng Seng

Dear GMS,

Thank you for taking your time to explain, I just realize I was helping you along how to tackle many unforeseen issues you may face, helping you was not my intention for that I will be only praising every move you make from now on.

You did well pls keep it up

Thank you

 

[RonRon]

You PAP mole is clutching at straws.

You PAP ministers always announce way beforehand that PAP is going to spend this millions of dollars to help the poor. You PAP ministers always say this big event will generate how much income ... and many other cases.

And mind you, PAP ministers blow their own trumpets by spending Singapore's money and not their own money and when these are their responsibilities since they are paid millions.

Until and unless PAP let themselves be audited to make sure everything they announced has always come true, you PAP has no right to make demands on anyone, especially when you think buying your own dinner is such big deal that you must announce to the world.

PAP's mentality is that even their own dinners must be paid by taxpayers and must announce to the world when they paid for their own dinners. Compared with GMS, PAP loses totally.

Yes you are right!