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is chee soon juan asking to be convicted GUILTY?

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what a joke! whether convict or free them, chee soon juan shall still make helluva noise. how to please such joker?

Judge's decision: Nothing to be elated about, nothing to despair Judge's decision: Nothing to be elated about, nothing to despair
Wednesday, 07 October 2009
Chee Soon Juan

DJ John Ng
Before we pop the bubbly and celebrate the acquittal of my colleagues by District Judge John Ng over the protest walk on 16 Sep 07, it is important to examine the Judge's reasoning behind his decision (read the full Judgement here).

Judge Ng had ruled that the Miscellaneous Offences Act (MOA) under which the defendants had been charged was not unconstitutional. He wrote that "There was no basis for the defendants to attack the constitutionality of the legislation."

Perhaps. But Mr Ng misses the bigger point which is that the police will not approve any application for outdoor political activity. The defendants made this point their main contention.

Put simply: the MOA requires groups of 5 or more to apply for permits. Nothing unconstitutional about this, one might argue, at least not in this part of the Act. After all the Constitution does provide for certain conditions under which the Government can deny such activity. Applications for permits will allow the police to assess each case on its merits.

But the PAP goes to the other extreme where it determines that no outdoor political activity is allowed under any condition. The Judge acknowledges this: "The defendants were able to show by their cross-examinations of the prosecution witnesses that there was a policy not to grant any permit for political events to be held outdoors."

Such a policy or administrative act is not backed up by any law and runs contrary to Article 12 of the Constitution.


So while the legislation (MOA) may not be unconstitutional, the administrative act of denying all applications is. This is the nub of our contention: The Government's decision to ban all political activity in public areas is ultra vires the Constitution.

Defendants had submitted on the case of Boddington v PP in which the UK House of Lords unequivocally and emphatically ruled that if an "administrative act undertaken pursuant to [the parent law] is ultra vires and unlawful and that if he establishes that he has committed no crime."

Unfortunately, Judge Ng ignored this point and simply said that "whether a permit could or could not be obtained is not an issue and would not be relevant." He failed to explain why this point is not an issue or how it is irrelevant.

So the main contention of the defence case was not addressed by the Judge. Does this mean that the case is completely unhelpful to the bigger goal of clawing back our fundamental rights as citizens?

No. As my colleague and defendant John Tan said: "This is the first time a judge in Singapore has conceded that not all political activities (in this instance a protest procession) in public places equals public disorder."

It is a small yet significant concession. Judge Ng acknowledges that the reason why the procession (or walk) did not contravene the MOA and its Rules is because it "did not cause inconvenience to the public, affect traffic flow or make noise which disturbed the public peace."

Call this judgement a judicial baby-step if you will. But isn't it true that all things great always first happen with baby-steps?

So what happens next? The Prosecution may appeal, the High Court may overturn Judge Ng's decision, other judge's may re-look at the cases that are on-going - who knows? In other words, what will come from this one single judgment is unclear. It may or may not lead to bigger things.

What is absolutely clear, however, is that without challenge, the status quo will remain. I am reminded that failure does not come when we fall short, it comes when we don't try - a subject I will talk more about in a subsequent piece.
 
Perhaps. But Mr Ng misses the bigger point which is that the police will not approve any application for outdoor political activity. The defendants made this point their main contention.

i think the real jokers are the police who don't approve his application....

CSJ can cause a riot? you must be kidding...

i say the police deploy the ang chias....if such things happens...which is highly unlikely...

but if they do, make them work for their salary...if not they will be bored...and starts to shoot themselves because of debts..etc..
 
hallelujah!

chee is getting his wish answered. the ATTORNEY-GENERAL'S CHAMBERS is considering whether to appeal against the acquittal.

if the AG were to proceed, it would mean chee can use ths drama to rant even louder to his foreign master under the guise of free speeches, human rights and democrapsy.

such is the way of the evil and cunning chee. but then if AG appeals, it would mean DJ JOHN NG was wrong to acquit them. whatever it was, the action fr SDP didn't in anyway make sgp a better place. it didn't solve any peasants' livelihood problem. it contributed NOTHING. it just wasting more public resources.

does it amount to asset or liability?

if it's LIABILITY, it's always CHEE so do not be CHEETED!;)
 
chee's evil prayer ANSWERED!

Oct 8, 2009
SDP 5'S ACQUITTAL
A-G Chambers mulls appeal
By Kor Kian Beng

THE Attorney-General's Chambers is considering whether to appeal against the acquittal of five opposition leaders and supporters charged with taking part in an illegal procession in September 2007.

A spokesman for the Chambers told The Straits Times on Wednesday that it has up to 10 days to file the appeal.

Among the five who were acquitted this week were Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) leaders Gandhi Ambalam, John Tan and Chee Siok Chin. The other two were SDP supporters Yap Keng Ho and Chong Kai Xiong.

The defendants represented themselves in court while the prosecution was represented by Deputy Public Prosecutor John Lu and Assistant Public Prosecutor Evelyn Jasmine Lee.

District Judge John Ng, in a written judgment on Tuesday, cleared the five of charges of taking part in a procession without a valid permit on Sept 16, 2007.

If convicted, they would have faced a fine of up to $1,000 under the Miscellaneous Offences (Public Order and Nuisance) Act.

Read the full story in Thursday's edition of The Straits Times.



and hopefully he wishes he could be convicted, locked up in jail, initiated another hunger strike and etc.....and defame the nation and their law further.

this is the evil hidden ploy of chee soon juan. whether the court convicts him or acquits him, he has way to "FIX" the law and embarrass singapore. this is chee. all he ever does is to CHEET so do not allow yourself to be CHEETED!
 
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