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Investigation finds Tiger pilots substandard, can't even use flight computer

Rogue Trader

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TIGER FLIGHT HAD WRONG DATABASE INFO: ATSB
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July 7, 2011, 3:48 pm


A Tiger Airways plane flew too low into Melbourne Airport after it used a navigational database containing the wrong descent altitude, an investigation has found.

The June 7 flight was the first of two incidents where Tiger pilots flew below the lowest safe altitude into Melbourne airports last month, contributing to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) grounding the airline.

A preliminary investigation by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) indicates the error was due to an incorrect lowest descent altitude in the commercial navigational database.

The ATSB's report, released on Thursday, said the flight crew did not initially notice that the altitude displayed in front of them was 500 feet below what they'd been cleared to fly.

Air traffic control had cleared the Airbus A320 to approach runway 27 at Melbourne Airport at 2500 feet.

"The investigation established that the navigational database that was current for the flight included a lowest descent altitude for the Melbourne ARBEY ONE ALPHA runway 27 arrival of 2000 feet," the report said.

After referring to the relevant instrument navigation charts, the pilots had entered data into the flight management guidance and envelope system (FMGS) and then checked the planned approach against paper charts.

"The flight crew did not notice that the documented arrival procedure had a lowest descent altitude of 2500 feet, while the data from the FMGS's navigational database that was displayed on the MCDU (multifunction control and display unit) had a lowest descent altitude of 2000 feet."

The pilot set the altitude on the flight control unit to 2000 feet.

It was as the plane was descending from 2500 to 2000 feet that one of the pilots queried the altitude on the unit and checked it against that in the MCDU.

As the plane was approaching 2000 feet, air traffic control told the flight crew they should be at 2500 feet.

The plane climbed to that level and landed safely.

The ATSB is still investigating the other incident involving a Tiger flight, which occurred on approach into Avalon airport late last Thursday night.
 

Rogue Trader

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So where did Tiger find these pilots:confused:

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zeddy

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15 June 2011.

Pilots exit Air India to join private carriers


Economic Times

More than 20 pilots have exited Air India in the last one month and joined private airlines. Many more pilots are expected to quit in the next few weeks according to three sources. This mass exodus got triggered after the pilots' went on strike last month.

Sensing the opportunity, private domestic players like Indigo airlines & Kingfisher airlines have made lucrative offers to Air India pilots. Some of the pilots have also joined International airlines like China based Spring airlines & Hong Kong based Dragonair. TIGER AIRWAYS :eek::eek: & Qatar Airways have also made offers.

'The whole purpose of working in Air India was that it is a government owned company and there is job security. But when we don't get paid for months and there is a uncertain future looming, it better to join a private airline' said one of the pilots who is joining a private airline. Air India pilots have not got paid in the last three months.

All the pilots who have quit in the last one month did not serve the mandatory notice period. The airline is saddled with a debt of about Rs 40,000 crore, of which Rs 18,000 crore is working capital loans taken from a consortium of banks and the balance of Rs 22,000 crore is towards payment for new aircraft ordered.

Sources say, that more pilots will quit in the coming weeks as private players are making lucrative offers. Indian private players are expanding their fleet as the demand has picked up.

'There is a demand for trained pilots as everyone is adding more aircraft, so it makes sense to hire from Air India where pilots are looking for a change' said an senior executive of a private airline.

The airline is saddled with a debt of about Rs 40,000 crore, of which Rs 18,000 crore is working capital loans taken from a consortium of banks and the balance of Rs 22,000 crore is towards payment for new aircraft ordered
 

johnny333

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Sensing the opportunity, private domestic players like Indigo airlines & Kingfisher airlines have made lucrative offers to Air India pilots. Some of the pilots have also joined International airlines like China based Spring airlines & Hong Kong based Dragonair. TIGER AIRWAYS :eek::eek: & Qatar Airways have also made offers.

Tiger must have gotten the inexperienced ones:smile:

Surprised that SIA didn't grab some cheap pilots:confused:
 

streetsmart73

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Tiger must have gotten the inexperienced ones:smile:

Surprised that SIA didn't grab some cheap pilots:confused:


hi there

1. bro, sheep's "it's a great way to fly" airlines has had advertised for pilots there.
2. just wait for some good showing!
 

Char_Azn

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Tiger must have gotten the inexperienced ones:smile:

Surprised that SIA didn't grab some cheap pilots:confused:

SIA's pilots are anything but cheap. They are some of the most overpaid jokers in the industry and every year still demand higher pay
 

johnny333

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SIA's pilots are anything but cheap. They are some of the most overpaid jokers in the industry and every year still demand higher pay

The "most overpaid jokers" are the execs of SIA. These guys are ex-SAF, PAPees, cronies of the establishment.....:rolleyes:

Spore has one of the weakest workers protection laws. It is a place with pro-employer laws.

The fact is that the media in Spore is controlled by the Spore gov't, so its not surprising that their reports are biased & slanted.

If the pilots demands are so unreasonable SIA can always replace ALL of them :rolleyes:
 
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erection2015

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maybe one day one of these overpaid jokers will end up saving your ample ass and then you will see their worth.

SIA's pilots are anything but cheap. They are some of the most overpaid jokers in the industry and every year still demand higher pay
 

Lestat

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A major overhaul of the pilots for Tiger is necessary. What the hell are they doing? Are we seriously so lacking in qualified pilots?
 
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