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Have a preview of what talent, intelligence and perseverance sounds like. After that you will think PAP is even more trash.
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Interview with deepseek ceo
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Or maybe you should stop being duped by these pro-China shills.
https://www.douyin.com/search/HaderYepping
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he will be promoted to top cadre in ccp politburo for duping millions into surrendering personal and private data to ccp.
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Good and humble? Please la... as with most tiong things, there's always a catch
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Deepseek
OpenAI claims they have evidence that China's DeepSeek has used OpenAI's data to develop a model. According to information from Bloomberg, during the investigation by OpenAI and Microsoft regarding the Deep Seek model, their researchers discovered that a large amount of data from Deep Seek had been processed through developer accounts from OpenAI since late 2024.
OpenAI told the Financial Times they found evidence that Deep Seek used the technique of 'distillation' - a common technique for training AI models by extracting data from larger, more capable models. This is considered an effective way to train smaller models, which OpenAI also used to train GPT-4 at a lower cost.
Currently, OpenAI has not disclosed the details of the evidence they found. However, the use of a developer account on OpenAI to integrate the API into another application in order to distill data and build another model is a violation of the terms of use on OpenAI.
If this situation is true, things surrounding this company and Deep Seek will be even more ironic. This could be a loophole that Deep Seek has exploited to take advantage of what OpenAI has invested heavily in and create a new model. To put it simply, this action is akin to scraping all the information from a website that has been created and making it one's own without consent.
David Sacks, an AI and cryptocurrency advisor in President Trump's cabinet, stated that 'there may' have been technology theft in this case: 'There is significant evidence that what Deepseek did was to distill knowledge from OpenAI's models, and I do not believe OpenAI agreed to this.'
Recently, OpenAI added that 'we know that Chinese-based companies and many others are continuously looking for ways to distill the powerful models of American AI companies. As a leading AI system developer, we are always seeking ways to protect our technology, including a careful frontier process leading up to model release. More importantly, we must work closely with the U.S. government to find ways to protect America's technological assets from adversaries.'
Deepseek has distilled data from OpenAI to develop a model - is this a case of intellectual theft?
Quang Hai JKz
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OpenAI claims they have evidence that China's DeepSeek has used OpenAI's data to develop a model. According to information from Bloomberg, during the investigation by OpenAI and Microsoft regarding the Deep Seek model, their researchers discovered that a large amount of data from Deep Seek had been processed through developer accounts from OpenAI since late 2024.
OpenAI told the Financial Times they found evidence that Deep Seek used the technique of 'distillation' - a common technique for training AI models by extracting data from larger, more capable models. This is considered an effective way to train smaller models, which OpenAI also used to train GPT-4 at a lower cost.
Currently, OpenAI has not disclosed the details of the evidence they found. However, the use of a developer account on OpenAI to integrate the API into another application in order to distill data and build another model is a violation of the terms of use on OpenAI.
If this situation is true, things surrounding this company and Deep Seek will be even more ironic. This could be a loophole that Deep Seek has exploited to take advantage of what OpenAI has invested heavily in and create a new model. To put it simply, this action is akin to scraping all the information from a website that has been created and making it one's own without consent.
David Sacks, an AI and cryptocurrency advisor in President Trump's cabinet, stated that 'there may' have been technology theft in this case: 'There is significant evidence that what Deepseek did was to distill knowledge from OpenAI's models, and I do not believe OpenAI agreed to this.'
Recently, OpenAI added that 'we know that Chinese-based companies and many others are continuously looking for ways to distill the powerful models of American AI companies. As a leading AI system developer, we are always seeking ways to protect our technology, including a careful frontier process leading up to model release. More importantly, we must work closely with the U.S. government to find ways to protect America's technological assets from adversaries.'
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Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained OpenAI Data
https://www.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-probing-deepseek-linked-group-025844721.htmlsooner or later this scam and fraud will be sexposed.
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more deepshit cumming out from ccp karchng.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/did-deepseek-copy-chatgpt-trump-170534410.html
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/did-deepseek-copy-chatgpt-trump-170534410.html
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Stealing, lying, copying, cheating.... the DNA of the typical Chink
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applies mostly to ccp tiongs, different from chinks outside prc. however chinks are typically dishonest and unscrupulous countered by minority of chinks who are upright, honest, and kind. all the period dramas in tiongcock, taiwan, hk, sg have majority of the characters who are villains and corrupt while only a handful are righteous heroes. it’s ingrained in 6.9k years of chink history and culture.
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deepsick once sexposed as a fraud has epitomised the shamelessness of ccp tiongs.
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Tiong lifts and escalators are all clones of Western brands, go compare IFE and Schindler they sound and look almost the same!
lol motley riffraff of butt hurt n triggered ang moh sawwwwwwwsageeeeee imbibers
https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/me...IaNuaXpohen3HWugXIMEJnp5c&bt_ts=1738198882199
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The DeepSeek drama may have been briefly eclipsed by, you know, ~everything~ in Washington (which, if you can believe it, got even crazier Wednesday). But rest assured that over in Silicon Valley, there has been nonstop, Olympic-level pearl-clutching over this Chinese upstart that managed to singlehandedly wipe out hundreds of billions of dollars in market cap in just a few hours and put America’s mighty tech titans on their heels.
ICYMI: DeepSeek is a Chinese AI lab with a model that’s similar to ChatGPT, and people are freaking out over it because of its engineers’ claims about how they built it — cheaply, using a small fraction of the computing power used by US labs like OpenAI. Big picture: DeepSeek has forced tech bros and their investors to question the industry’s core assumption that they need gajillions more dollars to effectively secure enough energy to power their AI advancements.
Now, perhaps not unexpectedly, American tech leaders are trying to shift the narrative to make DeepSeek look like the villain. (And you gotta suspect none of these guys — they’re mostly guys — paid attention in English class because they appear fully unaware of the excruciating irony — some might say hypocrisy — baked into their accusations.)
On Tuesday, Bloomberg and the Financial Times reported that OpenAI and Microsoft, its biggest investor, are looking into evidence that DeepSeek used OpenAI’s intellectual property to build its competitor, violating its terms of service. An OpenAI spokesperson confirmed to CNN on Wednesday that the company is “aware of and reviewing indications that DeepSeek may have inappropriately distilled our models, and will share information as we know more.”
“Distilling” isn’t exactly stealing, but it is a kind of copycat maneuver used by developers to train smaller AI models on the performance of larger, more sophisticated ones. (More on that in a moment.)
So, to recap: OpenAI, a startup that’s built on a foundation of data it scraped from the internet without permission, is pointing the finger at another startup allegedly doing… more or less the same thing.
As a reminder, OpenAI is currently mired in litigation with various content creators, including the New York Times, who accuse the company of training its large language models on copyrighted material. (OpenAI doesn’t deny using the material but has argued that it’s not copyright infringement because the content falls under the legal doctrine known as “fair use.”)
The irony might have been best summed up in a headline from tech news site 404 Media: “OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us.”
Some prominent tech figures greeted the allegations from OpenAI with a shrug, noting that distilling is practically standard practice in the AI industry.
“I’d be surprised if DeepSeek hadn’t used it,” said Lutz Finger, senior visiting lecturer at Cornell University. “Technically, it’s easy to do,” he added, and “if done well, it is easy to disguise and avoid detection, thus I would be equally surprised if we ever get proof of such tactics.”
Tech venture capitalist Bill Gurley wrote on X that “the core algorithm everyone uses was developed at DeepMind,” Google’s AI lab. “No one disputes that. The vast majority of LLM insights and breakthroughs are ‘borrowed.’”
So yeah, maybe OpenAI is having a bit of a sour grapes moment over a foreign rival making it look bad on the global stage. Whatever.
The more generous read is that OpenAI, as the poster child of American AI innovation, is trying to establish some rules in what is an unregulated and rapidly expanding industry that few people outside of it understand at a technical level.
For example, there is a fine line between “distillation” and “extraction,” explains Zack Kass, an AI consultant and former OpenAI go-to-market lead.
“Distillation is a common practice in AI, but it’s typically done within the same organization that owns both models,” he said in an email.
“If DeepSeek trained its model by querying ChatGPT at scale and using the responses to teach its own model, it raises legitimate concerns about whether that constitutes unauthorized use of OpenAI’s API,” Kass said.
“Regardless of the specifics here, we’re entering a phase where the AI community will have to define clearer norms around what constitutes fair use versus unauthorized replication.”
https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/me...IaNuaXpohen3HWugXIMEJnp5c&bt_ts=1738198882199
?? POT, MEET KETTLE
The DeepSeek drama may have been briefly eclipsed by, you know, ~everything~ in Washington (which, if you can believe it, got even crazier Wednesday). But rest assured that over in Silicon Valley, there has been nonstop, Olympic-level pearl-clutching over this Chinese upstart that managed to singlehandedly wipe out hundreds of billions of dollars in market cap in just a few hours and put America’s mighty tech titans on their heels.
ICYMI: DeepSeek is a Chinese AI lab with a model that’s similar to ChatGPT, and people are freaking out over it because of its engineers’ claims about how they built it — cheaply, using a small fraction of the computing power used by US labs like OpenAI. Big picture: DeepSeek has forced tech bros and their investors to question the industry’s core assumption that they need gajillions more dollars to effectively secure enough energy to power their AI advancements.
Now, perhaps not unexpectedly, American tech leaders are trying to shift the narrative to make DeepSeek look like the villain. (And you gotta suspect none of these guys — they’re mostly guys — paid attention in English class because they appear fully unaware of the excruciating irony — some might say hypocrisy — baked into their accusations.)
On Tuesday, Bloomberg and the Financial Times reported that OpenAI and Microsoft, its biggest investor, are looking into evidence that DeepSeek used OpenAI’s intellectual property to build its competitor, violating its terms of service. An OpenAI spokesperson confirmed to CNN on Wednesday that the company is “aware of and reviewing indications that DeepSeek may have inappropriately distilled our models, and will share information as we know more.”
“Distilling” isn’t exactly stealing, but it is a kind of copycat maneuver used by developers to train smaller AI models on the performance of larger, more sophisticated ones. (More on that in a moment.)
So, to recap: OpenAI, a startup that’s built on a foundation of data it scraped from the internet without permission, is pointing the finger at another startup allegedly doing… more or less the same thing.
As a reminder, OpenAI is currently mired in litigation with various content creators, including the New York Times, who accuse the company of training its large language models on copyrighted material. (OpenAI doesn’t deny using the material but has argued that it’s not copyright infringement because the content falls under the legal doctrine known as “fair use.”)
The irony might have been best summed up in a headline from tech news site 404 Media: “OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data OpenAI Stole From Us.”
Some prominent tech figures greeted the allegations from OpenAI with a shrug, noting that distilling is practically standard practice in the AI industry.
“I’d be surprised if DeepSeek hadn’t used it,” said Lutz Finger, senior visiting lecturer at Cornell University. “Technically, it’s easy to do,” he added, and “if done well, it is easy to disguise and avoid detection, thus I would be equally surprised if we ever get proof of such tactics.”
Tech venture capitalist Bill Gurley wrote on X that “the core algorithm everyone uses was developed at DeepMind,” Google’s AI lab. “No one disputes that. The vast majority of LLM insights and breakthroughs are ‘borrowed.’”
So yeah, maybe OpenAI is having a bit of a sour grapes moment over a foreign rival making it look bad on the global stage. Whatever.
The more generous read is that OpenAI, as the poster child of American AI innovation, is trying to establish some rules in what is an unregulated and rapidly expanding industry that few people outside of it understand at a technical level.
For example, there is a fine line between “distillation” and “extraction,” explains Zack Kass, an AI consultant and former OpenAI go-to-market lead.
“Distillation is a common practice in AI, but it’s typically done within the same organization that owns both models,” he said in an email.
“If DeepSeek trained its model by querying ChatGPT at scale and using the responses to teach its own model, it raises legitimate concerns about whether that constitutes unauthorized use of OpenAI’s API,” Kass said.
“Regardless of the specifics here, we’re entering a phase where the AI community will have to define clearer norms around what constitutes fair use versus unauthorized replication.”
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