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Interesting POV from Juval Aviv, the Israeli Agent in the movie "Munich"

Porfirio Rubirosa

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An interesting view from Juval Aviv,
> > Golda Meir's Bodyguard
> > > > Tags: terrorism, danger, evil, politics
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Juval Aviv was the Israeli
> > Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based.
> >
> > He was Golda Meir's
> > bodyguard--she appointed him to track down and bring
> > to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the
> > Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the
> > Munich Olympic Games.
> >
> > In a lecture in New York
> > City a few weeks ago, he shared information that
> > EVERY American needs to know--but that our
> > government has not yet shared with us. (Aviv's bio
> > is noted at end.)
> >
> > He predicted the London
> > subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News
> > stating publicly that it would happen within a week.
> > At the time, O'Reilly laughed and mocked him saying
> > that in a week he wanted him back on the show. But,
> > unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack
> > had occurred.
> >
> > Juval Aviv gave
> > intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and
> > the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about
> > 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report
> > specifically said they would use planes as bombs and
> > target high profile buildings and monuments. But he
> > was not taken seriously by the Bush Administration,
> > and they refused to respond to his concerns.
> > Congress has since hired him as a security
> > consultant, but he's frustrated as the
> > Administration still does not really listen to him
> > or his advice.
> >
> > He didn't agree with
> > Bush going into Iraq, saying that it didn't make
> > sense to do so if what we really wanted was the
> > terrorists responsible for 9/11. He also believes in
> > Golda Meir's approach, which was to bring justice to
> > the terrorists, but not to take down civilians. Aviv
> > feels that killing civilians only creates more
> > terrorists. However, similar to George Bush,
> > Israel's leaders since Meir are not as insightful
> > about such matters as she was.
> >
> > For example, Aviv
> > articulately states that Israel's greatest mistake
> > against their war on terror was to invade the West
> > Bank and Gaza and then to stay there. He says they
> > should have followed the proven anti-terrorist
> > strategy which is to 'Hit and Leave,' instead of
> > 'Hit and Stay.'
> >
> > He fears we are now 'stuck
> > in Iraq' and that the consequences will be worse
> > than that of Vietnam. Iraq has become the U.S.
> > version of Israel's West Bank/ Gaza strip debacle
> > Aviv doesn't believe
> > we will ever be able to
> > truly leave Iraq; because even when we are able to
> > pull our troops back, we will still have to go back
> > regularly to keep order which will keep us
> > quagmired. We should have hit hard and left
> > immediately.
> >
> > Now for his future
> > predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack
> > on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.
> > Forget hijacking airplanes,
> > because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack
> > a plane again as they know the people onboard will
> > never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our
> > airport security is a joke--that we have been
> > reactionary rather than proactive in developing
> > strategies that are truly effective.
> >
> > For example(s):
> >
> > 1) our airport technology is
> > outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives
> > are made of plastic.
> >
> > 2) He talked about how some
> > idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of
> > that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A
> > group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid
> > explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He
> > says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour
> > liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point,
> > security will have us all traveling naked! Every
> > strategy we have is
> > 'reactionary.'
> >
> > 3) We only focus on security
> > when people are heading to the gates.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aviv says that if a
> > terrorist attack targets airports in the future,
> > they will target busy times on the front end of the
> > airport when/where people are checking in. It would
> > be easy for someone to take
> > two suitcases of explosives,
> > walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next
> > to them to watch their bags for a minute while they
> > run to the restroom or get a drink, and then
> > detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets
> > involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFORE
> > people can even ENTER the airport.
> >
> > Aviv says the next
> > terrorist attack here in America is imminent and
> > will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers
> > in places where large groups of people congregate.
> > (i. e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities
> > (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it
> > will also include shopping malls, subways in rush
> > hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America
> > this time (Wyoming, Montana, etc.).
> >
> > The attack will be
> > characterized by simultaneous detonations around the
> > country (terrorists like big impact), involving at
> > least 5-8 cities, including rural areas. Aviv says
> > terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many
> > of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM
> > Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car
> > loaded with explosives and walk away.
> >
> > Aviv says all of the
> > above is well known in intelligence circles, but
> > that our U. S. government does not want to 'alarm
> > American citizens' with the facts.
> >
> > Aviv also predicts
> > that the U. S. will attack Iran & Syria BEFORE Bush
> > leaves office. Since our troop force is stretched at
> > the moment, the U.S. will likely resort to using
> > small, strategic nuclear weapons, even though the
> > headlines the next day will read 'US Nukes Islamic
> > World'.
> >
> > The world is quickly
> > going to become 'a different place,' and issues like
> > 'global warming' and political correctness will
> > become totally irrelevant.
> >
> > On an encouraging
> > note, he says that Americans don't have to be
> > concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the
> > terrorists who want to destroy America will not use
> > sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a
> > front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's
> > effective; and they have an infinite abundance of
> > young militants more than willing to 'meet their
> > destiny.'
> >
> > He also says the next
> > level of terrorists, over which America should be
> > most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But
> > will be, instead, 'homegrown' - having attended and
> > been educated in our own schools and universities
> > right here in the U. S. He says to look for
> > 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to
> > the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most
> > dangerous because they will know our language and
> > will fully understand the habits of Americans; but
> > that we Americans won't know/understand a thing
> > about them.
> >
> > Aviv says that, as a
> > people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about
> > the terroristic threats we will, inevitably, face.
> > America still has only have a handful of Arabic and
> > Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks,
> > and Aviv says it is critical that we change that
> > fact - SOON.
> >
> > So, what can America
> > do to protect itself?
> > From an intelligence
> > perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop
> > relying on satellites and technology for
> > intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,
> > Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human
> > intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective
> > as well as to trust 'aware' citizens to help.
> >
> > We need to engage and
> > educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S.
> > government continues to treat us, its citizens,
> > 'like babies.' Our government thinks we 'can't
> > handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic
> > if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv
> > says this is a deadly mistake.
> >
> > Aviv recently
> > created/executed a security test for our Congress,
> > by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled
> > spots in five major cities. The results? Not one
> > person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it
> > out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the
> > briefcase!
> >
> > In comparison, Aviv
> > says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained'
> > that an unattended bag or package would be reported
> > in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout,
> > 'Unattended Bag.' The area would be quickly & calmly
> > cleared by the citizens themselves. But,
> > unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough'
> > by terrorism for their government to fully
> > understand the need to educate its citizens or for
> > the government to understand that it's their
> > citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of
> > defense against terrorism.
> >
> > Aviv also was
> > concerned about the high number of children here in
> > America who were in preschool and kindergarten after
> > 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to
> > pick them up, and about ours schools that had no
> > plan in place to best care for the students until
> > parents could get there. (In New York City, this was
> > days, in some cases!)
> >
>
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

Alfrescian
Loyal
> > He stresses the
> > importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon
> > within your family, to respond to in the event of a
> > terroristic emergency. He urges parents to contact
> > their children's schools and demand that the
> > schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do
> > in Israel.
> >
> > Does your family know
> > what to do if you can't contact one another by
> > phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He
> > says we should all have a plan that is easy enough
> > for even our youngest children to remember and
> > follow.
> >
> > Aviv says that the U.
> > S. government has in force a plan that, in the event
> > of another terrorist attack, will immediately
> > cut-off EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones,
> > blackberries, etc., as this is the preferred
> > communication source used by terrorists and is often
> > the way that their bombs are detonated.
> >
> > How will you
> > communicate with your loved ones in the event you
> > cannot speak? You need to have a plan.
> >
> > Aviv'sBio as follows:
> >
> > Juval Aviv holds an M.A. in
> > Business from Tel Aviv University and is President
> > and CEO of Interfor, Inc., an international
> > corporate intelligence and investigations firm.
> >
> > Interfor, Inc. is now based
> > in New York, with offices around the world. It was
> > founded in 1979 and provides foreign and domestic
> > intelligence services to legal, corporate and
> > financial communities around the world. Interfor,
> > Inc. also conducts investigations into terrorism and
> > Mr. Aviv now serves as a special consultant to the
> > U. S. Congress, and other policy makers, here within
> > the U. S. on issues of terrorism, fraud and money
> > laundering.
> >
> > Interfor's services
> > encompass white-collar crime investigations, asset
> > search and recovery, corporate due diligence,
> > litigation support, fraud investigations, internal
> > compliance investigations and
> > security and vulnerability
> > assessments. Since its inception, Interfor's asset
> > investigation services have recovered over $2
> > billion worldwide for its clients.
> >
> > A leading authority on
> > terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead
> > investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am
> > 103-Lockerbie terrorist bombing. He was featured in
> > the recent film, Munich, as the
> > leader of the Israeli team
> > that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the
> > Israeli Olympic team.
> >
> > Before founding Interfor,
> > Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense
> > Force (Major, retired) leading an elite
> > Commando/Intelligence Unit, and was later selected
> > by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to
> > participate in a number of intelligence special
> > operations, serving in many countries in the late
> > 1960s and 1970s.
> >
> > While working as a
> > consultant with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the
> > existing security measures in place and updated El
> > Al's security program, makting El rAl the safest
> > airline in business today.
> >
> > Most recently, Mr. Aviv
> > wrote a book entitled, 'Staying Safe: The Complete
> > Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Youcr
> > Business.' (2004, Harper Resource)
> >
> > He has been a featured guest
> > on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight, ZDF
> > (German National Television) and RAI (Italian
> > National Television)--and has been featured in
> > numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers
> > worldwidec.
>
>
> I am beginning to learn that it is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all-Laura Ingalls Wilder.
>
> I expect to pass through this life but once.
> Therefore, if there be any kindness I can show,
> or any good thing I can do for another human being,
> let me do it now, for I shall not pass this way again.
> ~William Penn
 
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