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Indonesia and Asian Rivals wait for factories quitting China

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Indonesia and Asian Rivals Spy A Chance if Factories Quit China

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Chinese workers are seen during a morning briefing session by factory management at a factory in Foshan City, southern China's Guangdong province on June 18, 2010. Young workers involved in a rash of recent strikes in southern China for better pay and conditions bristle at the term "cheap labour" and insist today's workforce will not accept what their forebears endured. (AFP Photo)

Labor costs and the value of China’s currency are sending ripples around Asia as countries jostle to lure manufacturers that are rethinking their Chinese operations, analysts and officials said.

Worker unrest at foreign-owned factories and the prospect of higher wage costs are causing some manufacturers to consider Indonesia as well as Bangladesh, India and Vietnam, where wages remain relatively low.

Trade Minister Mari Elka Pangestu said in January that there was a “permanent trend” of shoe manufacturers shifting from China to Indonesia, resulting in $1.8 billion of investment over the past four years.

Bruce Tsao, an analyst with Capital Securities in Taipei, said dramatic wage hikes in mainland China were “adding more woe to labor-intensive industries in China already troubled by low profit margins. Such factories may not move out of China soon, but the trend is inevitable in the long term,” he said.

Taiwan’s Feng Tay Group, which supplies about a sixth of Nike’s sports shoes, said it was planning to boost production in India as its Chinese manufacturing base shrank.

The company made 51 million pairs of shoes last year, 20 percent in five Chinese plants.

“The ratio will keep falling in the years ahead,” said a company spokeswoman, Amy Chen. She added, however, that the company’s five Chinese plants would “remain our production base of high-priced products.”

“We’ll keep expanding our capacity in India over the next five years, considering its competitive edges like ample supplies of quality workers, relatively low wages and concessions offered by the government,” she said.

China’s central bank last month pledged to let the yuan trade more freely against the US dollar but ruled out dramatic moves in the currency or a one-off appreciation. The yuan hit five-year highs of 6.8089 to the dollar in the days that followed, but it remains firmly within a tightly controlled trading band.

Analysts said a more robust yuan would further erode China’s labor-cost advantage over other links in the global supply chain, amid growing signs that the country’s apparently limitless pool of cheap workers might be drying up.

Production at a Japanese-owned electronics factory in northern China was suspended from Tuesday until Saturday as 3,000 workers went on strike over pay and benefits.

It was the latest in a spate of unrest to hit foreign-run companies in China, highlighting growing discontent among millions of workers over poor salaries and conditions.

Japanese automakers Toyota and Honda have been forced to halt production at assembly plants in China several times in recent weeks after strikes at auto-parts suppliers.

The China Daily news_paper, a state mouthpiece, has warned of “an end to cheap labor in China.”

Bangladesh, which has the lowest minimum wage in the world at just $25 a month, is poised to reap the benefits as long as it can resolve its own chronic labor disputes and fix its crumbling infrastructure, experts say.

“Bangladesh has a huge opportunity to capitalize on rising costs in China,” said Ifty Islam, an investment banker at Dhaka-based Asian Tiger Capital.

“But it is difficult to get more foreign firms to come if we can’t prevent labor unrest.”

Nissan chief Carlos Ghosn recently said the Japanese automaker was paying “a lot of attention” to strikes in China but this did not mean there would be any change in its plans to ramp up production in the country.

Even so, Ghosn announced last week that the company intended to double the capacity of its assembly plant in Indonesia, which he said could become an “export force” if it improved its creaking infrastructure.

His point underscored the fact that despite the slight appreciation of its currency and corresponding higher wage costs, China was light years ahead of its rivals in supply-chain infrastructure such as ports and railways.

Analysts also said China-based manufacturers could easily offset the higher yuan by increasing efficiency and boosting production.


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indo? it seems bad move for me.
yes currency might be a factor but dey also will riot mah, best u see them the first mth, disappear X mths.....no production.

msia, maybe itz a gd move.

sg, drooling....
 
indo? it seems bad move for me.
yes currency might be a factor but dey also will riot mah, best u see them the first mth, disappear X mths.....no production.

msia, maybe itz a gd move.

sg, drooling....

Depend on what type of workers you hire lah. malayu? Can forget about them... laziest I ever seen. Javanese are generally good workers.

Malaysia? Can someone report about workers there? Use to be in Butterworth, where alot of electronic stuff.... now, no more, all run to china...

Singapore? hahaha, so expensive.
 
indo? it seems bad move for me.
yes currency might be a factor but dey also will riot mah, best u see them the first mth, disappear X mths.....no production.

msia, maybe itz a gd move.

sg, drooling....

This is what's happening in China now

Workers have the right to strike and not work if they don't feel like it

Unlike Sinkies, who just suck their own cock and work like dogs, only to be retrenched whenever there is a recession
 
indo? it seems bad move for me.
yes currency might be a factor but dey also will riot mah, best u see them the first mth, disappear X mths.....no production.

msia, maybe itz a gd move.

sg, drooling....

The countries that will pick up the slack are Vietnam are Cambodia. Indonesia, unless the investor likes to burn money, is not the best place to invest in manufacturing :D
 
The countries that will pick up the slack are Vietnam are Cambodia. Indonesia, unless the investor likes to burn money, is not the best place to invest in manufacturing :D

Will you go to Indo if you are a manufacturer?
Remember they raped all the chinese, christians a few years ago

Vietnam is the place to go
Communist and has OK infrastructure
 
The countries that will pick up the slack are Vietnam are Cambodia. Indonesia, unless the investor likes to burn money, is not the best place to invest in manufacturing :D

Very perceptive about Indonesia.

However, its surely one of the best markets for Mobile Phones. (Almost everyone in Business owns a Blackberry) and there is a 200 Million Mobile phone consumer base, with each person changing cellphone every 6 months to 1 year...

The consumerism attitude in Indonesia is, spend whatever you have...

May not be a best place to manufacture, but surely the best place to sell.
 
Will you go to Indo if you are a manufacturer?
Remember they raped all the chinese, christians a few years ago

Vietnam is the place to go
Communist and has OK infrastructure


1998 is a political crisis. Chinese are specifically targeted by the then top political figure... It was lucky that it did not turn into a civil war.....Not all indos do the bad stuff, these are mobsters who are PAID to do such things...
 
The countries that will pick up the slack are Vietnam are Cambodia. Indonesia, unless the investor likes to burn money, is not the best place to invest in manufacturing :D


Many electronic firms are already in Batam, in the Muka Kunning area. PSA also has facilities there. I see oil rigs popping up like mushrooms.

It'll be good for Spore if our hinterland propsers
 
1998 is a political crisis. Chinese are specifically targeted by the then top political figure... It was lucky that it did not turn into a civil war.....Not all indos do the bad stuff, these are mobsters who are PAID to do such things...

Rumoured that the Indo army was involved in stirring things up.
 
Those indians might get away with insulting Sporeans but don't play, play with the Indos.

Indonesia is a big place with hundreds of ethnic groups e.g. Batawis, Javaneses, .... & some are more aggressive than others.

Yes, just like her, where she came from they don't give head but hunts them

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Salaries aside, there are some things that will keep the manufacturers here:

1) PRCs are 1000x smarter and hard working than those Indons, Pinoys, Viets etc.....PRCs can go on strike but the govt will not allow them to get violet unlike those other Asian countries like those CCB Indons
2) China has excellent infrastructure and tons of 'satellite stations' to support the manufacturing industries. You can basically make anything here
3) There are corruption and red tapes like any other asian countries but the big difference is that things get done here and at lightning speed if necessary. The govt can be super efficient if required and the plus side is that they are serious about beefing up their economy and reducing corruption
 
Yes, just like her, where she came from they don't give head but hunts them

nadya_hutagalung_12.jpg


I've met some of these head hunters(ress) in Batam She told me they still eat flesh :eek: Don't know whether the person was joking :)
 
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