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How would you talk to your kids about sex?

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read http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,203704,00.html? is damn funny,,,,

the parents are so naive,,,,, unbelieveable,,,,,, the kids are probably more net savvy than them,,,, condoms useage,,, oral sex,,,,, lucky the kids never ask the parents ,,, "dad/mum, did you ever do oral with mum/dad?'... "what if my bf/gf/wife/husband ask me to do it to them"....

where babies come from,,, still have people asked meh? most kids know is boy f888 girl, girl get pregnant and deliver baby. don't ask them where baby come from,,,,masturbation,,,, haha,,,

i remember the days the term was "shake"

don't teach them condoms, teach them abstinence only,,,,, super,,,,,

these folks are basically fundies
 
Don't have kids in the first place, then no need to talk to them about sex.
 
http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,203704,00.html?

How would you talk to your kids about sex?
The Aware saga put the spotlight on sex education. We ask three parents 10 tricky questions
By Shree Ann Mathavan

June 01, 2009

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SHALL we talk about sex, baby?

That's something parents in Singapore have had to ponder seriously since sex education in schools have come under intense scrutiny of late.

These programmes are now being reviewed by the Ministry of Education (MOE).

But what about the role of parents?

After all, when it comes to sex education, the ministry has reiterated its stance that parents have to be responsible and discuss sex with their kids - uncomfortable though it may make them feel.

The New Paper sat three parents down with 10burning questions - all rather prickly - that their kids, all aged 12 and below, might someday raise.

Amid embarrassed smiles and the occasional uncomfortable pause, we talk about sex from a child's perspective.

1: How are babies made?

Ms Chelsia Leung: 'I would tell my older child (6 years old), that mummy and daddy love each other and that's why you're here.

'I would tell her about how the baby grows from an embryo. At her age she may not yet understand how the fertilisation happens, so that's something I would probably explain later, when she starts asking more questions.'

Mr Sebastian Anthony: 'That's something my son (12years old) has asked me before. I told him it's because of love that we (me and my wife) married each other and it's because of an act of love that you came about.

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'I wouldn't go into the details as he wouldn't understand. But the bottom line is it has to be related to the act of love, and it is this act of love that produced the child.'

Madam Haslinda Putri Harun: 'If they ask, I will turn to books and television to help explain. Parents don't know everything, so it's good if we can tap on other resources especially if we're not knowledgeable about biological stuff.'

2. What is oral sex? Can I get pregnant from it?

Madam Haslinda: 'If my daughters asked me, it's something that I would explain, although I would say this is something unacceptable until marriage.'

Ms Leung: 'I would explain it. It's better coming from us than from other sources. But I don't think they need to know much about it until they reach adolescence.'

Mr Anthony: 'I would be upfront and tell my eldest boy what oral sex is. There is no intercourse, but it is still sexual in every other way.

'I would talk to him about the physiological aspect first and follow that with the religious and values standpoint.'

3. Is masturbation okay? Will I become blind or can I get pregnant from it?

Mr Anthony: 'I won't tell him that you'll go to hell for that, because that only generates fear and guilt, which doesn't help.

'I would talk to him openly - is it right, what is the Church's stand on it from a cognitive standpoint.'

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Madam Haslinda: 'My girls have never used the word. But I would tell them if they do it, it may make them feel good.

'But ideally, it's better for them to wait till they find someone they love and want to marry.'

Ms Leung: 'That's not something I've really thought about till now.'

4. I think I may be gay.

(Pause as all parents fidget and look visibly uncomfortable.)

Ms Leung: 'I would go deeper and question further. I would ask what makes you think that you are a homosexual?

'I may take my daughter to church to get people who are more equipped to address such issues to talk to her.

'But if she is really a man trapped in a girl's body, and if everything else fails, then I think I would accept it.'

Madam Haslinda: 'This is something that doesn't happen overnight, it's down to parental responsibility.

'Part of the problem is Singaporean parents are so busy. Being parents we can sense when something is up. It's up to us if we want to say something or not.

'I would have to repeat that it's unacceptable. Iwould still love her as my child, but that doesn't mean that I approve of her orientation.'

Mr Anthony: 'I agree that these things don't happen overnight. I'm not of the view that someone is born that way - it has a lot to do with environmental factors.

5. Can I be friends with someone who is gay or lesbian? Will people make fun of me?

Mr Anthony: 'I will tell them that I have homosexual and lesbian friends myself, and while I don't condone what they do, I still love them.

Madam Haslinda: 'I have homosexual friends who are living abroad.

'When we go visit, my kids ask me why this uncle can marry that uncle, I tell them gently that it may be something acceptable in this person's religion but not in ours.'

6. Can I have a boyfriend or girlfriend?

Ms Leung: 'It depends at what age they have a relationship.

'Having a relationship should come after the Olevels because their maturity levels are different when they're younger.'

'Sometimes it's peer pressure to have a boyfriend. I would tell them they don't need to follow what others are doing.'

Mr Anthony: 'I would tell my son to go out in groups first, otherwise it might be easy to fall into temptation.

'But having a relationship isn't something I would encourage while they're still young - maybe only when they are in college or university.'

Madam Haslinda: 'I would tell my girls to wait until college or university.'

7. My boyfriend says if I love him, Ishould have sex with him. Should I?

Madam Haslinda: 'I would tell my kids to save themselves for their marriages, for the person they love.'

Ms Leung: 'My stand is the same, saving it for the man you love. I would tell her that if that boy really loves you, he would wait.'

Mr Anthony: 'For me I would tell them that while it seems nice in the beginning, pre-marital sex sucks you in. There can be a lot of pain and consequences and every action has consequences. Ultimately, is the price worthwhile?

'I would speak from my past experience that I've been down that road, I made a mistake and this is the priceI paid.'

Madam Haslinda (nodding): 'I think when you share personal experiences, kids take it in better.

'It's not just telling them not to do certain things, which is very puritanical.'

8. How do I use a condom?

Madam Haslinda: 'You have to talk about condoms, that's something that comes with the sex talk.

Ms Leung: 'When you bring it up you reinforce it with issues like Sexually Transmitted Infections (STIs) and the consequences.'

Mr Anthony: 'Using condoms is something I will not teach them. It takes what, two seconds to learn how to use it? I don't want to teach it, because I'm not advocating it's okay.'

9. During sex, when my boyfriend puts on the condom half-way, am I still protected? Could I get an STI or become pregnant?

Mr Anthony: 'I will tell them yes, you can get pregnant with pre-ejaculate.

Ms Leung: 'It's definitely something you have to share with your child, what are the risks involved? Show them pictures of STIs.'

10. Is it okay if I look at porn? After all it's just pictures.

Ms Leung: 'If it's something that they haven't seen before, people tend to have a dying thirst to see it.

'So if my daughter asks, I may show her something (porn), but I would tell her to take it with a pinch of salt, that this isn't what it's like. It's very exaggerated.'

Mr Anthony: 'I would question them. I would ask them, what does porn do? It demeans, it reduces the act of love. Relationships are more than just an act of sex, that is just one component.'




MR SEBASTIAN ANTHONY, 45, a corporate trainer, is married to a reading therapist, 46. The couple have a son, 12, and two daughters, 8 and 10. He is Catholic.

MADAM HASLINDA PUTRI HARUN, 38, a housewife, has two daughters, aged 6 and 9, with her husband, 40, a dentist. She is Muslim.

MS CHELSIA LEUNG, 32, a financial consultant and her husband, 33, a photographer, have a daughter, 6, and a son, 3. She is a Methodist Christian.
 
http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,203703,00.html?

Sex Ed: What parents want schools to teach
June 01, 2009




WHEN Madam Haslinda Putri Harun's younger daughter, 6, used the word 'lesbian', it caught her by surprise.

The housewife, 38, recalled a recent incident when another classmate kissed her child on the cheek.

She said: 'My girl told her 'stop it, I'm not a lesbian.'


Madam Haslinda had to then explain to her that the other girl was just doing it as a friend, just as how her aunt kisses her.

'Already in her mind, there's this thing, that girls can't kiss other girls,'she said.

That loss of innocence is something Madam Haslinda laments.

She recalled that in her own childhood, she would bathe and sleep together with her girl friends in school and think nothing of it.

She said: 'I'm really upset, now there's a stigma and parents have to figure out when something is acceptable, and when it isn't.'

She acknowledged that sex education is more pertinent in these times, more so than ever before.

She said a welcome consequence of the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) saga, was that parents were now more conscious about the need to educate their kids about sex.

She said: 'This has opened people's eyes and ears and made them realise this is something that you have to address.

'You can't say let's go have ice cream instead when the topic comes up.'

Consensus

The three parents we spoke to agreed that the following areas have to be covered when it comes to sex education - the sex act, sexually transmitted infections, contraception, masturbation, pornography, homosexuality and, most importantly, sexual morality and values.

But Mr Sebastian Anthony, 45, a corporate trainer, feels strongly that the messenger - the person teaching sex education - is just as important as the message.

He said: 'My concern at the end of the day is who is delivering the message.

'Not everyone shares the same value system so the question is, how do we cater for that?'

For instance, how do you tackle the issue of whether homosexuality is morally right, asked Mr Anthony.

He said: 'Is same-sex marriage all right? It's not science or maths, you can't just take a neutral stance.'

Instead of a one-size-fits-all approach to sex education, he suggested a more tailored approach.

He mooted the idea of having the ministry allocate funds and allowing parents to sign up with external groups or religious organisations that share their core values when it comes to sex education.

While this may put the onus on parents, Mr Anthony said parents shouldn't rely on schools all the time.

He said: 'There comes a point in time when people need to take accountability and responsibility for their own lives.'

Ms Chelsia Leung, 32, a financial consultant, suggested allowing parents to opt out of certain areas of the curriculum that they are not comfortable with.
 
You see,

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But modernity is here to stay, often changing itself in so many ways and taking the world with it. Little by little these Sporn fucks are seeing their self-security wither away, and they are alarmed. They struggle, often quietly, at most resorting to cursing change the trends of today as degenerative, which only reveals their helplessness, FEAR, and their unyielding obstinacy that is now looking very awkward and stupid even to themselves.

For the first time, they are feeling left behind, and lost. They talk to each other, but they find no solutions and spiral further downwards in despair.

Good for them. All of them should line up on the top of flats and jump down one by one, and call home to be, not with the Lord, but with Lucifer, who is bored stupid and needs more rotten souls particularly of these bastard Sporn types, to damn forever and ever in his underword we know simply as hell.

Good Sporns are dead Sporns. Repeat this after me.
 
wonder how many parents are here? how many has talk to their kids on sex....

i of course prefer the school to teach my sons sex education,,,,, rather than myself,,, but then i don't want them to teach total abstinence becos it is simply not possible,,,,

how many of us here are virgins before marriage? I definitely was not one,,,,
 
wonder how many parents are here? how many has talk to their kids on sex....

i of course prefer the school to teach my sons sex education,,,,, rather than myself,,, but then i don't want them to teach total abstinence becos it is simply not possible,,,,

how many of us here are virgins before marriage? I definitely was not one,,,,

Because you are a bastard who loves eating around, that's why you're not. Understand?
 
wonder how many parents are here? how many has talk to their kids on sex....

i of course prefer the school to teach my sons sex education,,,,, rather than myself,,, but then i don't want them to teach total abstinence becos it is simply not possible,,,,

how many of us here are virgins before marriage? I definitely was not one,,,,
I would use a banana and a dougnut. :)
 
Don't teach anything about sex.

All of us get sexually aware when we grew up and start getting curious about the opposite sex in school. We will start finding out more about what we want to know ourselves. This is part of life.
 
but nowadays STDs are more scary,,,,

last time goneralle at middle road very embarassing liao, but then again condoms are not that common,,,

now, condoms are seen at every 7-11 stores,,,,,

already told my kids,

when having sex other than wife, please use condoms,,,,

also, make sure the girl is over 16, better if over 18 y/o,,,,,,, because police case if below 16,,,,
 
After reading through the article. I have one conclusion. The parents are not coming clean on the questions.

For instance, if my daughter tell me that her boy friend tells her that she should have sex with him if she loves him. I will ask her to invite her boy friend to dinner, get him drunk and have him castrated.
 
i was born in 50s, and stayed in kampong when i was young. studied in a rural primary school. i already knew these from my classmates at pri. 5. even the parents do't tell, their children also know all these. don't be too naive that in this internet era, the children are still ignorant and need their parents from telling them all these? of course, i heard the real story of a couple from the very strict religious families (don't mention the religion). they married for many years still no kids. so they approached the MOH, and told the doctor: we slept next to each other every night after our marriage for so many years, why still no kids ?!:D
 
Had a tape of me n my wife doing it showed it to my kids when they were sec 4.
 
i was born in 50s, and stayed in kampong when i was young. studied in a rural primary school. i already knew these from my classmates at pri. 5. even the parents do't tell, their children also know all these. don't be too naive that in this internet era, the children are still ignorant and need their parents from telling them all these? of course, i heard the real story of a couple from the very strict religious families (don't mention the religion). they married for many years still no kids. so they approached the MOH, and told the doctor: we slept next to each other every night after our marriage for so many years, why still no kids ?!:D

I don't mean to be nasty but I think the couple are not naive. They are idiots.
 
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