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Hougang resident: I don't get upgrading, so can I pay less tax?

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Hougang resident: I don't get upgrading, so can I pay less tax?

Mr Seah Yin Hwa, 25, a fourth-year NUS engineering student who lives in Hougang SMC, asked the Prime Minister about upgrading programmes for opposition-held wards, and if not getting to benefit from the government scheme means he can pay less tax.

Mr Seah: Good evening, Mr Lee. Just like many people in the audience, I serve my NS, and when I graduate this year, I'll be paying taxes.

But I guess the main difference from everyone here is that I come from an SMC, or single-member constituency, where the majority of the people have decided to pick a 'Teochew nang' (dialect for Teochew person) who doesn't wear a white uniform.

So, my question is: Why are we penalised for our choice of MP?

PM Lee: How are you penalised?

Student: When it comes to upgrading, what is being told to us is that we don't have the funds to actually go ahead with lift upgrading, as well as shelters to the bus stops. When I look across the road to Aljunied GRC, they have everything. (Audience laughs)

PM Lee: Low Thia Khiang says they have no difficulty funding the lift upgrading programme.

Mr Seah: No, my question is...

PM Lee: Your question is, why is the opposition ward not treated at least as good, or maybe even better than the PAP ward? And the answer is that there has to be a distinction. Because the PAP wards supported the Government and the policies which delivered these good things.

All the basics apply to everybody - your roads, your trains, your houses, your schools, your hospitals, your security and defence. But the extras - which come down to the upgrading programmes - it's a national programme. Between the people who voted and supported the programme and the Government, and the people who didn't, I think if we went and put yours before the PAP constituencies, it would be an injustice.

Mr Seah: So, having said that, can I pay less tax, and maybe take one or two years off my NS? (Audience laughs, applauds)

PM Lee: You are... (laughs, pauses, more laughter from the audience) How shall I put this? If you are on an offshore island and not part of the SAF security defence, such a thing could be imagined.

But the SAF, defence, taxes, all the facilities which have been provided, go to everybody. Priority, first and second, who comes first, who has to wait. Somebody has to wait.

Moderator: Okay... Can we have the next question?

PM Lee: (Interrupts) But you can do something about it, you know. You don't have to keep voting for people not in white-on-white. (More laughter from the audience)
 

piratetoon

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If there is a distinction between PAP Ward and opposition ward , Why there is no distinction between Singaporean and Foreigner. PR and Foreigners get better treatment than Local. Hope the PM can arrest this issue. What can Singaporean benefit if we are treated as Second Class.
 

bryanlim1972

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i am disgusted by PM Lee's disingenuous reply. sure, national programmes have to be supported by the people, but its taxpayers like Mr Seah who fund these national programmes.

and if its a national programm, why should it be subject to the whims and fancies of a political party?

PM LEE - wake up, Singapore is for Singaporeans, not the PAP.

if you treat national funds like party funds, who's to say how the funds in temasek and GIC have been used/abused?
 

jacobsgoh

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Mr. Seah and his family should be happy that, people living in Hougang are lucky to enjoyi the same postal service, etc as other areas in this island state.
this country is fair to everybody; Nobody Is Above lee Law.
 
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GoldenDragon

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If LHL cannot adequately deal with Mr Seah's question, how on earth can he deal with national problems and those as a result of international affairs?

Taxpayers' money belong to S'poreans, not PAP. S'pore is S'pore, PAP is PAP. LHL must be the most girly PM ever to exist. BG previously makes it a complete joke.
 

patrickv

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If LHL cannot adequately deal with Mr Seah's question, how on earth can he deal with national problems and those as a result of international affairs?

Taxpayers' money belong to S'poreans, not PAP. S'pore is S'pore, PAP is PAP. LHL must be the most girly PM ever to exist. BG previously makes it a complete joke.

clap clap clap. government revenue come from all over the place. petrol, entetainment, gst, water, electricity, property, income, company etc. hougang n pp residents subjected to all these taxes as well. depriving them of these national programs such as upgrading is abusing of powers by pap :mad:
 

streetsmart73

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If LHL cannot adequately deal with Mr Seah's question, how on earth can he deal with national problems and those as a result of international affairs?

Taxpayers' money belong to S'poreans, not PAP. S'pore is S'pore, PAP is PAP. LHL must be the most girly PM ever to exist. BG previously makes it a complete joke.

hi there

1. bro, pinky is not answering the question.
2. the bottomline: it is the taxpayers' monies that fuel the upgrading.
3. daft sheep!
 

alvin36

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Hougang resident: I don't get upgrading, so can I pay less tax?

Mr Seah Yin Hwa, 25, a fourth-year NUS engineering student who lives in Hougang SMC, asked the Prime Minister about upgrading programmes for opposition-held wards, and if not getting to benefit from the government scheme means he can pay less tax.

Mr Seah: Good evening, Mr Lee. Just like many people in the audience, I serve my NS, and when I graduate this year, I'll be paying taxes.

But I guess the main difference from everyone here is that I come from an SMC, or single-member constituency, where the majority of the people have decided to pick a 'Teochew nang' (dialect for Teochew person) who doesn't wear a white uniform.

So, my question is: Why are we penalised for our choice of MP?

PM Lee: How are you penalised?

Student: When it comes to upgrading, what is being told to us is that we don't have the funds to actually go ahead with lift upgrading, as well as shelters to the bus stops. When I look across the road to Aljunied GRC, they have everything. (Audience laughs)

PM Lee: Low Thia Khiang says they have no difficulty funding the lift upgrading programme.

Mr Seah: No, my question is...

PM Lee: Your question is, why is the opposition ward not treated at least as good, or maybe even better than the PAP ward? And the answer is that there has to be a distinction. Because the PAP wards supported the Government and the policies which delivered these good things.

All the basics apply to everybody - your roads, your trains, your houses, your schools, your hospitals, your security and defence. But the extras - which come down to the upgrading programmes - it's a national programme. Between the people who voted and supported the programme and the Government, and the people who didn't, I think if we went and put yours before the PAP constituencies, it would be an injustice.

Mr Seah: So, having said that, can I pay less tax, and maybe take one or two years off my NS? (Audience laughs, applauds)

PM Lee: You are... (laughs, pauses, more laughter from the audience) How shall I put this? If you are on an offshore island and not part of the SAF security defence, such a thing could be imagined.

But the SAF, defence, taxes, all the facilities which have been provided, go to everybody. Priority, first and second, who comes first, who has to wait. Somebody has to wait.

Moderator: Okay... Can we have the next question?

PM Lee: (Interrupts) But you can do something about it, you know. You don't have to keep voting for people not in white-on-white. (More laughter from the audience)


it is OK to differentiate PAP or opp wards, but should not use tax payer money to make the dinstinction. everyone pay the same tax.

If the upgrading is coming from PAP funds... I got nothing to say.

But the upgrading comes from govt fund, which is every Singaporean's money. It does not belongs to PAP's supporter only
 

tanwahtiu

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Wah lah eh! talk like that also can one meh??????

I supposed you vote in a party to form a government and not the government to support the party?

What if there is a big fire in Hougang?

So you die your problem lah! So no need to upgrade Hougang fire station also lah! So there are more fire stations built in PAP wards than oppo one lah! So oppo ward got fire, PAP wards just watch it burnt down and no PAP wards fire stations will go help put out the fire lah!

Blackmail voters can one meh????



Hougang resident: I don't get upgrading, so can I pay less tax?

Mr Seah Yin Hwa, 25, a fourth-year NUS engineering student who lives in Hougang SMC, asked the Prime Minister about upgrading programmes for opposition-held wards, and if not getting to benefit from the government scheme means he can pay less tax.

Mr Seah: Good evening, Mr Lee. Just like many people in the audience, I serve my NS, and when I graduate this year, I'll be paying taxes.

But I guess the main difference from everyone here is that I come from an SMC, or single-member constituency, where the majority of the people have decided to pick a 'Teochew nang' (dialect for Teochew person) who doesn't wear a white uniform.

So, my question is: Why are we penalised for our choice of MP?

PM Lee: How are you penalised?

Student: When it comes to upgrading, what is being told to us is that we don't have the funds to actually go ahead with lift upgrading, as well as shelters to the bus stops. When I look across the road to Aljunied GRC, they have everything. (Audience laughs)

PM Lee: Low Thia Khiang says they have no difficulty funding the lift upgrading programme.

Mr Seah: No, my question is...

PM Lee: Your question is, why is the opposition ward not treated at least as good, or maybe even better than the PAP ward? And the answer is that there has to be a distinction. Because the PAP wards supported the Government and the policies which delivered these good things.

All the basics apply to everybody - your roads, your trains, your houses, your schools, your hospitals, your security and defence. But the extras - which come down to the upgrading programmes - it's a national programme. Between the people who voted and supported the programme and the Government, and the people who didn't, I think if we went and put yours before the PAP constituencies, it would be an injustice.

Mr Seah: So, having said that, can I pay less tax, and maybe take one or two years off my NS? (Audience laughs, applauds)

PM Lee: You are... (laughs, pauses, more laughter from the audience) How shall I put this? If you are on an offshore island and not part of the SAF security defence, such a thing could be imagined.

But the SAF, defence, taxes, all the facilities which have been provided, go to everybody. Priority, first and second, who comes first, who has to wait. Somebody has to wait.

Moderator: Okay... Can we have the next question?

PM Lee: (Interrupts) But you can do something about it, you know. You don't have to keep voting for people not in white-on-white. (More laughter from the audience)
 
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moolightaffairs

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Singapore is a country. if any political party victimise any resident because of vote and constituency . i think we can vote them out!!! they are like the pan green party DPP in Taiwan. see what happened in Taiwan? even election is over it created cracked among the people and its irreversible.
 

myfoot123

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I am totally disgusted by Lee Hsien Loong reply to the Hougang residents. Talking about national policies, many things remain unaccounted and lack transparency. His wife losing our billions is one such issues remained a secret. All his talks is for his own self-musing, the listeners and thinkers are matured enough to see thru his ploy and how desperate he was to 'BUY VOTE". All these PR election campaign from the man in white is a total shit.
 
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