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Serious Hong Kong protests: When home lies in ruins

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Freedom is not an unbridled right to break laws; just like freedom of speech is not a right to spread lies and inflammatory words to instigate trouble. Ultimately those who fight for freedom should first ask what is it that they want to achieve.



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A social media commentator in Hong Kong likened the current troubles there to an apocalypse. Using the trailer of the hit South Korean zombie movie Train To Busan, she replaced its scenes with videos of the street battles in Hong Kong.
One scene stood out from the rest.
It showed a large group of black-clad protesters chasing a cab that broke through their road barrier in an almost zombie-like frenzy. Ordinarily, this parody would be hilarious but the reality now is downright scary.
The madness hit a new peak on China's national day holiday, which saw riots erupting in 13 districts that led to the closure of most major shopping malls and more than half of the city's 91 MTR stations. Other parts that were not affected looked eerily like "ghost towns" as police cautioned residents to remain at home. How can Hong Kong, which always touted itself to be the safest city in Asia, descend so quickly to become a broken city held hostage by unruly mobs?
Like a virulent virus that has mutated over time, what started as a civilian protest against an extradition law has now turned into something far more sinister. In Hong Kong, it is no more just people versus the government and the police, but people versus people and families versus families.
Fresh videos of people quarrelling in the streets are appearing almost daily on social media, with some of these episodes ending in injuries. Sadly, the Hong Kong community has painfully split into two factions - those who support China and the government, and those who are staunchly against them.


This "civil war" is likely to drag on.

Can Hong Kong residents ever stand as one again when the two factions hate each other so much over their core belief? Instead of looking for ways to douse this flame of hatred, student groups are now conducting gladiator-like training camps to teach people how to fight and defend themselves with home-made shields, the South China Morning Post reported.

The raw videos from ground zero will send chills down the spines of any peace-loving people when they see how total strangers now go for one another's throats. In one ugly incident, a woman and her teenage son started filming a man who was tearing away anti-government notices pasted on the public wall. Upset by the harassment, the man picked fights with them and other passers-by, who then ganged up on this "unruly" man. When the police arrived later, the man exclaimed loudly in Cantonese: "Hong Kong has become lawless and people can do whatever they want. I have nothing to lose because I am all alone. I am ready to die and take all these people with me!"
In another video, a middle-aged man who picked a fight with a protester ended up being the victim when a mob of more than 10 set upon him. They rained blows and hit him with metal rods and umbrellas. They didn't stop even when the man was clearly hurt and defeated, with blood flowing down his face. A young girl wearing a face mask crept behind him and delivered the final blow by whacking his head with a piece of metal railing. Volunteer medics came to help him but he turned them away. "I don't need help. Let me bleed and die," he said. In response, a young man who was filming him shouted: "Why don't you just commit suicide?"
The bitterness is not confined to the streets. Online, anti-government vigilantes are waging a terror campaign to defame any business - big or small - that supports the government, by flooding their Facebook pages and websites with vicious comments, such as complaints that their products were poor in quality and unhygienic. In some cases, the mobs even barged into neighbourhood grocery shops to trash the whole place.
Whatever noble intention might have sparked the initial peaceful protests, the scale of the unrest now is a clear sign that the "one country, two systems" policy is lost on many people in Hong Kong. While everyone is happy to support the "two systems", many choose to ignore "one country", judging by their blatant disrespect of all things Chinese, including the state flag.
This highlights the paramount importance of national education in nation-building. Veteran Hong Kong actor Natalis Chan, who is a vocal pro-government supporter, best summed it up when he was interviewed during a charity football match in China recently. When asked how youth in China differed from Hong Kong youth, he said: "They are luckier because they have learnt how to love their country."
The concept of "country" is sacrosanct and that's why since ancient times, the call that there will be no families without a country has been used to rally people in wars. Even the great American General Douglas MacArthur's most famous quote was "duty, honour, country".
In the last three decades, China has done more in improving the lives of its 1.4 billion people than most countries in the world. This probably explains why its young people are fiercely patriotic. While the current protest has shades of the Tiananmen pro-democracy movement, the Hong Kong protesters have ironically only succeeded in gaining not the support, but the strong condemnation from their Chinese compatriots for desecrating their state flag and emblem.
Singaporeans will probably feel the same way if our flag and national emblem are similarly treated. We have another national value that has been shaped into our lives and that is racial harmony. This is why many foreigners continue to be amazed how various communities can coexist peacefully in Singapore.

In Hong Kong, expert commentators have said that housing is one of the key factors that sparked the current uproar. While a home is a critical need, it will take more than that to move people forward. Governments need to show that their systems not only can work, their people must also be given hope that lives will be better if they work hard and, yes, stick around.
South China Morning Post's chief news editor Yonden Lhatoo, who has lived in Hong Kong for two decades, was in Singapore recently to attend a conference that was moved here due to the protest.
He later wrote in his column: "I couldn't help feeling downright envious and borderline resentful about Singapore and its shiny, happy people. All those law-abiding folks skipping along spick and span streets, business booming in every shopping centre and street corner, uninterrupted commerce in gleaming office towers. I found it warm and welcoming there, and, above all, so peaceful."
Critics often describe Singaporeans as people who are oppressed but the reality is that this peaceful, calm city is how we want home and life to be.
Yes, things can always be better but most people here know that if there is a problem, somehow, it will be fixed. Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong recently unveiled plans to not only build a Greater Southern Waterfront; his Government has also launched a long-term battle plan to protect Singapore from the effects of climate change. While some of these plans will take effect only decades from now, it is still a great assurance for the current generation of Singaporeans. Those who are blessed with longevity do not have to worry that they will wake up one day to find themselves in wet marshlands due to rising sea levels.
Finally, freedom is what the protesters are fighting for and they wave American flags, because they want Hong Kong to be the "land of the free and a home of the brave". If they study history, they should learn that America became great because of what the people had fought for. But the fight was not against their country, but for their country.
Inspired by the words of one of its greatest presidents, Americans did not ask their country for help. They just went ahead to create great things for their country, people and even the world. People have the tendency to interpret freedom as the right to say and do things against the government. Indeed, freedom must also mean the right to initiate good things to help the country and the people.
Freedom is not an unbridled right to break laws; just like freedom of speech is not a right to spread lies and inflammatory words to instigate trouble. Ultimately those who fight for freedom should first ask what is it that they want to achieve.
Is it still freedom when home is in ruins and families and neighbours are up in arms with each other?
Tan Ooi Boon, a former Straits Times journalist, is the general manager of Straits Times Press.
 
Fuck you krafty the fucktard
Trust you to share such propaganda
Kan no na beh chow Phua cheeby
 
Freedom is not given to you on a silver platter. You must fight for it, and sacrifice something in the process.



By the way, I've heard this song being played at a HDB void deck funeral wake. Maybe the family was from Hong Kong.
 
give the protesters an inch, they want a metre; i foresee troops marching in soon.
 
give the protesters an inch, they want a metre; i foresee troops marching in soon.
There is a problem with current hong kong leadership under carrie lam. She refuse to engage with protestors early on before it got violent. Now of course its too late. She has to go and another person will begin dialogue with protestors.btw i 5hink carrie lam gets HK$5 mil per year. Thats a lot of money she got to screw up the city.
 
Next step is mass exodus of good HK peopke leaving HK to mainland, and never return again....

A great clean up of reducing HK population by 30% or more and never return to HK again.

Then u hv population growth of baby boomers of 王八羔子 born by young riot girls... never known who is the father... all fucked by rioters...
 
About bloody time northern mandarin speaking scum get their just desserts. They have been bullying cantos since time immemorial. When they go other provinces or countries when cantos out number them. They always say 'we are all cina' etc...when they are a majority, they will say u are not Chinese because u don't speak mandarin etc. Seen these bs for decades n now finally the cantos have lost their cool and treating these scums as the scums tat they are. Fuck the Northerners. Cantonese is a different race...I rather be called a Cantonese than a Chinese if Chinese means ah tiong northern mandarin speaking dog. Only fuckeins will stoop soo low.

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Video of a Chinese office worker being punched by a Hong Kong anti-government protester as a crowd chanted "go home" has caused outrage on the mainland. (Image: WhatsApp)
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HONG KONG: Video of a Chinese office worker being punched by a Hong Kong anti-government protester as a crowd chanted "go home" has caused outrage on the mainland, highlighting widening polarisation in the financial hub.

Footage shot by both reporters and protesters showed a white-shirted man being punched repeatedly outside the entrance to JPMorgan by a single masked protester on the sidelines of a rally in Hong Kong's commercial district on Friday (Oct 4).




Bloomberg News reported that the man worked for the American bank, which said it was boosting security outside its offices in an internal memo sent to staff.

READ: Hong Kong court rejects mask ban challenge as fresh protests break out

It is not clear how the altercation started.

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Footage begins with the man, who speaks Mandarin, surrounded by media photographers as an angry crowd chants "go back to the mainland".

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Two men fight during a clash between Beijing supporters and anti-government protesters in Hong
Two men fight during a clash between Beijing supporters and anti-government protesters in Hong Kong's North Point district AFP/Nicolas ASFOURI

He makes his way through the press scrum to the door of his office building before turning to the crowd and shouting "We are all Chinese".

Shortly after a masked man punches him multiple times, knocking off his glasses.

The clip has gone viral in mainland China, where news about Hong Kong is strictly censored.

One version of the video on the Twitter-like Weibo platform describing the attacked JP Morgan worker as "very brave", had received more than 11.2 million views and 91,000 likes by Sunday morning.

Comments were filled with anger towards Hong Kongers.

"ENOUGH TOLERANCE"

"Just because he speaks Mandarin and thinks 'we are all Chinese', why should he be punched and have his glasses knocked off?" asked one commentator under the name Aubrey.

"You have to pull up the roots (of Hong Kong) and leave nothing behind. They have had enough tolerance," another added.

READ: Hong Kong metro system partially reopens as city braces for further protests

Some comments hit out at a photographer who appeared to block the door to the office to take pictures.

Chinese state media focuses on the worst excesses of the violence while downplaying, or blocking, the popular public anger in Hong Kong towards Beijing.

Authorities also remove viral videos on social media that are sympathetic to the protests, but tend to allow footage that reflects poorly on the movement.

Hong Kong has been battered by four months of huge, increasingly violent protests fuelled by sliding freedoms under Beijing's rule.

In the early days, fights were rare.

But on Jul 21 a mob of Beijing supporters wielding sticks attacked protesters in the town of Yuen Long, hospitalising more than 40 people.

Other attacks by Beijing supporters occurred in the district of North Point, while anti-government protesters assaulted two men accused of being Chinese spies during an airport sit-in in August.

In recent weeks, fights across the ideological divide have intensified and protesters have repeatedly surrounded and attacked people.
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Protesters wearing banned face masks
PHOTO The anti-mask law applies to both illegal and police-approved gatherings, and carries a penalty of up to a year in jail and a fine.
AP: VINCENT THIAN
Shouting "wearing a mask is not a crime," tens of thousands of protesters marched in central Hong Kong on Sunday (local time), as a court rejected a second attempt to block a ban on masks aimed at quashing violence at pro-democracy rallies.

Key points:
The High Court may hear an application at the end of October against the Hong Kong Government's ban on masks
Global luxury brands say retail sales were down 23 per cent in August, the biggest decline on record
Hong Kong's economy is on the brink of its first recession in a decade
The ban, which took effect on Saturday (local time), triggered chaos for a third straight day in the semi-autonomous Chinese territory.

Police fired tear gas in several areas as demonstrators lobbed bricks and gasoline bombs in confrontations that have become a regular occurrence during the four-month-old protest movement.

Lawmaker Dennis Kwok said the High Court refused to grant an injunction on the mask ban but agreed to hear later this month an application by 24 legislators against Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam's use of emergency powers to impose the rule by circumventing the legislature.

Critics fear the use of the Emergency Regulations Ordinance that gives Ms Lam broad powers to implement any measures she deems necessary in an emergency could pave the way for more draconian moves.

The law was enacted by British colonial rulers in 1922 to quell a seamen's strike and was last used in 1967 to crush riots.

Ms Lam has not ruled out further measures if violence continues.

"This emergency law is so ancient and draconian. Carrie Lam is using it as some sort of weapon of mass destruction to nuke Hong Kong," legislator Claudia Mo said.
Even though the court rejected the legal challenge, Mr Kwok and Ms Mo welcomed the decision to expedite the hearing. The court didn't set a hearing date but indicated it would be at the end of October.

"This is a constitutional case," Ms Mo said.

"The court has acknowledged there is controversy involving the use of the emergency law."
What the colonial-era 'emergency law' means
What the colonial-era 'emergency law' means
Here's what you need to know about the ban on protesters wearing masks, imposed under a colonial-era Emergency Ordinance that was last used over half a century ago.
Ms Lam has said she would seek the backing of the legislature when it resumes on October 16.

Ms Mo called it a sham because she said only Ms Lam had the power to repeal the mask ban under the emergency law.

Hong Kong police were bracing for major protests on Sunday, fearing a recurrence of Friday night's violent protests that saw the Asian financial centre virtually shut down on Saturday.

Only hours after Hong Kong's embattled leader Ms Lam invoked the emergency powers, mask-wearing protesters took to the streets on Friday, setting subway stations on fire, smashing mainland China banks and clashing with police.

"The anti-mask law just fuels our anger and more will people come on to the street," Lee, a university student wearing a blue mask, said on Sunday.
"We are not afraid of the new law, we will continue fighting. We will fight for righteousness. I put on the mask to tell the government that I'm not afraid of tyranny."

Protesters on Sunday chanted "Hongkongers, revolt" and "fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong".

Riot police monitored protesters from overhead walkways and footbridges, some taking photos and filming the marchers.

Police fired tear gas at one rally, but there was no obvious reason as the rally at Pacific Place on Hong Kong island seemed peaceful, said a witness.

The streets became a sea of umbrellas
PHOTO Thousands of protesters braved the rain to march in central Hong Kong on Sunday.

AP: VINCENT YU
Some roads clogged with protesters resembled a field of flowers, with thousands of colourful umbrellas. Protesters handed out face masks to encourage all Hongkongers to defy the ban.

The current "precarious situation", which endangered public safety, left no timely solution but the anti-mask law, Matthew Cheung, Hong Kong's chief secretary, wrote on his blog on Sunday. He urged people to oppose violence ahead of grassroots district council elections set for November 24.

'Not God of Hong Kong'
Many protesters who wore masks on Sunday said the ban curtailed their freedom of expression.

The ban applies to both illegal and police-approved gatherings, and carries a penalty of up to a year in jail and a fine.

"Carrie Lam is not the god of Hong Kong. She can't do anything she likes," said retiree Patricia Anyeung, who wore a mask while marching with her sister, Rebecca.
"They can't arrest us all. There are thousands of us. "There is no going back — we are at the point of no return."

Protesters defied a colonial-era emergency law and wore masks
PHOTO A protesters uses a cut paper bag as a mask in a march in Hong Kong on Sunday.

AP: KIN CHEUNG
Ms Anyeung, who holds a British passport, said she may leave Hong Kong if the city's freedoms were extinguished.

A police official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media said some arrests were made Sunday for violating the ban, but he couldn't give any numbers.

Enforcement proves tricky in a city where masks have often been used since a deadly respiratory disease outbreak in 2003.

The government said on Saturday that it wouldn't prohibit the public from wearing masks for health reasons amid the current flu season.

Wearing a black mask and accompanied by his wife and two-year-old son, Feng Yiucheng handed out bottles of water to marchers from his van.

"I'm thinking of my kid's future. For the sake of our freedom, there's nothing we're afraid of," he said.
Many peaceful demonstrators say violence is the only way for young protesters to force the government to bend to clamours for greater democratic rights and other demands.

The shooting of a 14-year-old boy on Friday night — the second protest victim of police gunfire — stoked fears of more bloody confrontations.

An 18-year-old protester was shot at close range by a riot officer on Tuesday. He was charged with rioting and assaulting police, while the younger teen was arrested.

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Ms Lam has said the ban on masks, which allows radical protesters to conceal their identity, was needed to stop widespread violence that has "semi-paralysed" Hong Kong.

Hong Kong's four months of protests has plunged the Chinese-ruled city into its worst political crisis in decades and poses the biggest popular challenge to Chinese President Xi Jinping since he came to power six years ago.

The protests were sparked in early June by a bill that would have sent criminal suspects to stand trial in mainland China.

Carrie Lam
PHOTO igvHong Kong leader Carrie Lam says she will seek the High Court's backing of the legislature.

AP: VINCENT THIAN
But what started as opposition to a now-withdrawn extradition bill has morphed into a pro-democracy movement against what is seen as Beijing's increasing grip on the city, undermining its "one country, two systems" status promised when Britain handed Hong Kong back to China in 1997.

China dismisses the accusation, saying foreign governments, including Britain and the United States, have fanned anti-China sentiment.

Hong Kong on the brink of recession
Many malls, shops and the entire MTR network of subways and trains were shut Saturday following an overnight rampage.

About half of the city's 94 subway stations reopened Sunday, but some quickly shut again after protesters vandalised stations, set street fires and thrashed shops and banks linked to China.

Many malls also remained shuttered as streets downtown turned into a sea of umbrellas. The rally disbanded after police deployed tear gas to break up violence and detained over a dozen young protesters.

Hong Kong's countdown to 2047
Hong Kong's countdown to 2047
Hong Kong was handed back to China with no framework for what would happen after the year 2047, leaving the city to carve an identity out of two ideologically opposed empires.
Rail operator MTR Corp Ltd said it would not open some stations on Sunday, after an unprecedented shutdown following Friday night's violence.

It said it needed time to repair vandalised facilities and would cut short operations on Sunday by more than three hours, to end at 9pm.

Most supermarkets and commercial stores reopened after the previous day's closures, though some malls, such as Sogo in the bustling Causeway Bay commercial district and IFC in Central, remained shuttered.

Global luxury brands from Prada to Cartier are counting the costs as the unrest has kept tourists away, taking retail sales down 23 per cent in August, their biggest decline on record.

Many restaurants and small businesses have had to shut repeatedly, with the protests pushing Hong Kong's economy to the brink of its first recession in a decade.

Financial Secretary Paul Chan in a blog on Sunday said despite recent obstacles, Hong Kong's banking system remained sound and the financial market was functioning well.

Hong Kong may have lost as much as $4 billion in deposits to rival financial hub Singapore from June through August, Goldman Sachs estimated this week.

"Hong Kong will not implement foreign exchange controls. The Hong Kong dollar can be exchanged freely and capital can come in and out freely. This is the solemn guarantee of the Basic Law," Mr Chan said.
Mr Chan's comment came after Hong Kong's Monetary Authority said about 5 per cent of the city's ATMs could not transact cash withdrawals for "various reasons."

Protesters have taken aim at some of China's largest banks, trashing automated teller machines at branches of Bank of China's Hong Kong unit, for example, while nearby international counterparts, such as Standard Chartered PLC, have escaped untouched.

The Hong Kong Association of Banks condemned violent acts "which have caused serious damage to some bank branches and ATMs".

AP/Reuters

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When pigfucks dont fight for a single thing in their miserable lives and wonder why sinkieland is a shithole
 
Next step is mass exodus of good HK peopke leaving HK to mainland, and never return again....

A great clean up of reducing HK population by 30% or more and never return to HK again.

Then u hv population growth of baby boomers of 王八羔子 born by young riot girls... never known who is the father... all fucked by rioters...
Thats great news. Maybe hong kong homes eill be affordable for malays and induans to move in. Places like stanley and aberdeen are nice places to bring up a family.
 
Too many malays makes the place boring. Mosque at every corner. In the old days, they only got one grand misque in one city or town. Now there are hundreds.
Mudslimes should just Stick to where they are from since they love Islam soo much. They want a mosque in every corner n of course if boring can always have mudslime brothels
 
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