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'Hire American'

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WASHINGTON - AFTER passing a 'Buy America' provision in the country's massive economic stimulus plan, US legislators could next be pushing for a 'Hire American' clause that might further stir fears about protectionism.

Two senators are reported to be demanding that businesses benefiting from the rescue plan certify their workers' citizenship so that newly created jobs go to Americans instead of illegal immigrants, according to the Wall Street Journal.

It is unclear how much support this latest provision enjoys in the Senate, though it is certain to amplify concerns that the US actions are setting the stage for retaliatory measures by other countries, which would worsen the current economic slump.

'(President Barack Obama) should keep in mind that it was a wave of protectionist trade measures, triggered by the infamous Smoot-Hawley tariff in the United States and quickly emulated by most Europeans, which contributed mightily to the Great Depression,' Dr C. Fred Bergsten, director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, wrote in a note on the think-tank's website.

The 'Buy America' provision in the US$819 billion (S$1.2 trillion) economic stimulus plan, which the US House of Representatives passed on Thursday, has already drawn sharp protests from major trade partners like Canada and the European Union.

Major domestic business groups and industrial giants who thrive on their access to the global market have also openly opposed the measure.

The provision, which builds on the Buy American Act in 1933, states that all public works projects financed by the economic rescue package must be built with US iron and steel.

The Senate, which will begin deliberating its own version of the stimulus package next Monday, is said to be readying plans to expand this 'Buy America' provision to ensure all government-funded projects use mostly products made in the US.

However, passage of the 'buy and hire American' provisions is not yet a certainty. A team of negotiators from the House and Senate will meet next month to smooth over their differences in the stimulus package before presenting the final version to Mr Obama.

Observers said the impact of the provisions would also depend on how they were interpreted and implemented. The 'Buy America' provision, for instance, can be side-stepped if it increases the cost of any project by over 25 per cent.

It can also be waived if deemed to be 'inconsistent with public interest', or if US steel is not available in sufficient quality or quantity.

The United States imports about 20 per cent to 25 per cent of steel used domestically, according to the American Institute for International Steel, an amount domestic producers are unlikely to make up for in the short term.

Much also depends on the interpretation of the specific terms. For instance, would steel produced by the US-based mills of foreign companies be considered 'US steel'?

The 'Hire America' provision might also be self-defeating in the end as freshly unemployed American office workers may not all want the new construction jobs on offer.
 
WW3 is brewing. Gentlemen do not look idly by! this is the one chance to right the wrongs done to us by the eight allied powers which burned down the summer palace
 
WASHINGTON - THE Obama administration said on Friday it was reviewing its position on a 'Buy American' steel provision which is part of an economic stimulus package before Congress, after trading partners sounded alarm.

'The administration will review that particular provision and will make a determination of it,' White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters. 'It understands all of the concerns,' Mr Gibbs added.

'Hire American'
WASHINGTON - AFTER passing a 'Buy America' provision in the country's massive economic stimulus plan, US legislators could next be pushing for a 'Hire American' clause that might further stir fears about protectionism.

Two senators are reported to be demanding that businesses benefiting from the rescue plan certify their workers' citizenship so that newly created jobs go to Americans instead of illegal immigrants, according to the Wall Street Journal.
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The House of Representatives approved the measure this week as part of an US$825 billion (S$1.2 trillion) bill to kick-start the US economy.

It would require all public works projects funded by the stimulus package to use only US-made iron and steel.

Vice President Joe Biden told CNBC on Thursday he believed it was legitimate to have some portions of 'Buy American' in the stimulus plan and disagreed with those who said it was a harbinger of protectionism.

But European steelmakers objected, saying it would violate US commitments under the World Trade Organisation's government procurement pact and European Union officials said they were examining the issue to decide if grounds exist for a WTO complaint.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Canadian Finance Minister Jim Flaherty and Indian Trade Minister Kamal Nath all warned of the risks of protectionism during this week's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

'One of the strong messages - and it's a strong message here today - is that the last thing the world needs now is protectionism,' Mr Flaherty told BNN television in Davos, when asked about the 'Buy American' provision.

'That was the mistake that was made in the 1930s. We don't want to go there,' he said.

The Obama administration checking whether the measure would violate US trade obligations, Mr Gibbs said.

Early in his first term, former President George W. Bush angered trading partners by imposing steep tariffs on steel imports to help US producers climb out of a slump.

The Senate is expected to begin debate on its version of the stimulus bill next week. It includes a provision passed by the Senate Appropriations Committee that expands the House language of 'Buy American' to include all manufactured goods.

That has prompted the US Chamber of Commerce, a leading business group, to step up efforts to have the provision removed or modified to make it much less objectionable.

However, steel companies are expected to lobby hard for the measure.

'When you include all manufactured goods in these projects, you're talking about every shovel, every crane,' said Chris Braddock, the group's director of procurement policy.

'It's not just the steel going into bridges. Now it's the truck that is involved in building the bridge or the road.' Senator Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, 'is looking into this situation to ensure that any 'Buy American' provisions in the stimulus bill are administered in a manner consistent with US trade obligations,' a spokeswoman said.

That might not offer much comfort to major US trading partners such as China, which have not yet joined the WTO's government procurement accord. -- REUTERS
 
Obama to unveil measures to free up credit
Posted: 31 January 2009 2307 hrs

WASHINGTON : President Barack Obama said Saturday his administration will announce new measures soon to free up credit for businesses and individual borrowers, in the latest bid to revive a rapidly deteriorating US economy.

In his weekly radio and Internet address, the US leader said the soon-to-be-announced credit measures would be unveiled by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner.

"Just as we jumpstart job creation, we must also ensure that markets are stable, credit is flowing, and families can stay in their homes."

He added: "We'll help lower mortgage costs and extend loans to small businesses so they can create jobs.

"We will insist on unprecedented transparency, rigorous oversight, and clear accountability -- so taxpayers know how their money is being spent and whether it is achieving results," he said.

The president also called on the US Senate to quickly approve his stimulus plan, which aims to tackle the "unprecedented economic turmoil," after the House of Representatives this week approved an 819-billion-dollar (640-billion-euro) version of the measure.

The Senate is poised to debate the measure next week, after it passed in the House, but garnered no Republican support.

As the recovery plan now moves to Congress' upper chamber, Obama vowed to "continue working with both parties so that the strongest possible bill gets to my desk."

"With the stakes so high we simply cannot afford the same old gridlock and partisan posturing in Washington. It's time to move in a new direction," he said.

He added that the foundering US economy "is likely to get worse before it gets better."

Obama's remarks came a day after the release of figures showing that the US economy shrank by nearly four percent in the last quarter of 2008, the sharpest decline in more than a quarter-century.

But the US leader said the numbers, while dismal, tell only a small part of the story.

"Many Americans have seen their lives turned upside down," he said.

"Parents are struggling to pay the bills. Patients can't afford care. Students can't keep pace with tuition. And workers don't know whether their retirement will be dignified and secure," he said.

- AFP /ls
 
"Parents are struggling to pay the bills. Patients can't afford care. Students can't keep pace with tuition. And workers don't know whether their retirement will be dignified and secure," he said.

Wow, this sounds just like my country. How come my country's politicians don't describe it like it is...
 
Wow, this sounds just like my country. How come my country's politicians don't describe it like it is...


It is the Golden Era lah. Pay $$$$$ with bonus, no taxes, no fear of retrenchment. Which politician is going to complain :confused:

Politicians don't answer to lesser mortals so don't expect truth :rolleyes:
 
"Parents are struggling to pay the bills. Patients can't afford care. Students can't keep pace with tuition. And workers don't know whether their retirement will be dignified and secure," he said.

Wow, this sounds just like my country. How come my country's politicians don't describe it like it is...
Because they are comfortably enjoying life?
 
It is the Golden Era lah. Pay $$$$$ with bonus, no taxes, no fear of retrenchment. Which politician is going to complain :confused:

Politicians don't answer to lesser mortals so don't expect truth :rolleyes:
Make them answer after the election results.
 
Make them answer after the election results.

I have been disappointed by past election results.

Maybe this time round the PAP will get a surprise? Its up to the the lesser mortals to decide if they want to shock LKY out of his dotage. :rolleyes:
 
I have been disappointed by past election results.

Maybe this time round the PAP will get a surprise? Its up to the the lesser mortals to decide if they want to shock LKY out of his dotage. :rolleyes:
If the voters don't wake up, perhaps it's really true that we are indeed lesser mortals and can be walked all over by the greater mortals.
 
That is a very brave and drastic move by Obama. Built your own national confidence first before you think of helping the world. Whereas in Singapore, the local pillars are weak and yet we have so many heavy Foreign concretes piling over our head. The end result is collapse and no budget can salvage it. Anyway the minitoots morons and retarded leaders have no foresight like obama. Now these highly paid ministers only wait and see and incapable of doing anything now but to watch retrenchment mount to its new historic high.
 
That is a very brave and drastic move by Obama. Built your own national confidence first before you think of helping the world. Whereas in Singapore, the local pillars are weak and yet we have so many heavy Foreign concretes piling over our head. The end result is collapse and no budget can salvage it. Anyway the minitoots morons and retarded leaders have no foresight like obama. Now these highly paid ministers only wait and see and incapable of doing anything now but to watch retrenchment mount to its new historic high.

Well the "Buy American" actually hurts our economy even more, than if they didn't have it. In the Great Depression, some Senators during the Roosevelt administration forced FDR to sign a bill enforcing protectionism, and it only made the Depression worse because businesses were forced to buy or produce inferior raw materials for infrastructure rebuilding.

I understand why a lot of the steel mills want Americans to buy American products, but its a cheap and easy PR gimmick and it doesn't help America at all, since the government will be using taxpayers money to buy more expensive American steel from steel monopolies which possibly are producing inferior steel to those from India, China and other countries.
 
protectionism on the creep. *classic short term maneuver.

saw on the news that in the UK had a protest to hire UK people.
 
protectionism on the creep. *classic short term maneuver.

saw on the news that in the UK had a protest to hire UK people.

This is not exactly a very good move. Protectionsim has not worked in the world and that is why countries like China, India and Russia had to open up. And now US and UK, two of the very big economies are going back to this stone age concept. Protectionism is the very reason for the Great Depression in the 1930s.
 
That is a very brave and drastic move by Obama. Built your own national confidence first before you think of helping the world. Whereas in Singapore, the local pillars are weak and yet we have so many heavy Foreign concretes piling over our head. The end result is collapse and no budget can salvage it. Anyway the minitoots morons and retarded leaders have no foresight like obama. Now these highly paid ministers only wait and see and incapable of doing anything now but to watch retrenchment mount to its new historic high.

Globalization is not always the right way, Protectionism is not always bad, Obama is focusing on saving his own people first, I don't see anything wrong with that.

It's the rest of the Rich nations that need to wake up, it's this free wheeling, greed driven, global trade system that got us in trouble over and over again.

Country with no innovation, need free trade to survive, like Asia, we invent almost nothing that impact human race, except provide cheap labor and land to those who are innovative and make products at a cheaper cost.

Our education system, sadly focus on producing obedient workers to fill the production lines, so innovation and creativity is not necessary.
 
Well the "Buy American" actually hurts our economy even more, than if they didn't have it. In the Great Depression, some Senators during the Roosevelt administration forced FDR to sign a bill enforcing protectionism, and it only made the Depression worse because businesses were forced to buy or produce inferior raw materials for infrastructure rebuilding.

I understand why a lot of the steel mills want Americans to buy American products, but its a cheap and easy PR gimmick and it doesn't help America at all, since the government will be using taxpayers money to buy more expensive American steel from steel monopolies which possibly are producing inferior steel to those from India, China and other countries.

I thought you supported Obama during election even after I pointed out that he is protectionist?
 
This is not exactly a very good move. Protectionsim has not worked in the world and that is why countries like China, India and Russia had to open up. And now US and UK, two of the very big economies are going back to this stone age concept. Protectionism is the very reason for the Great Depression in the 1930s.
true. long term.

but the immediate needs is to keep people employed, fed and in their homes.

it's really just to buy time for them to re-adjust. ie: in terms of lifestyle, reduce consumption etc.
 
That is a very brave and drastic move by Obama. Built your own national confidence first before you think of helping the world. Whereas in Singapore, the local pillars are weak and yet we have so many heavy Foreign concretes piling over our head. The end result is collapse and no budget can salvage it. Anyway the minitoots morons and retarded leaders have no foresight like obama. Now these highly paid ministers only wait and see and incapable of doing anything now but to watch retrenchment mount to its new historic high.

Good policy of Obama! He is following South Korea & Japan. They look after their own very well there. While SILLY PAP idiots would only start praising some South Korean school girl in Spore school who made it to head prefect thinking that she will bring major change to Spore while all of us know that she will run off to USA or Canada in the near future & never return to Spore or even take up Spore citizenship, I think it mentioned by the MOE Tiunan minister.
 
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