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Higher school fees for PRs - elections soon?

dysentry

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To minimise the impact on existing students, the increase in monthly fees, which include both school and miscellaneous fees, will be spread over two years from 2011.

PRs currently pay between S$14.50 and S$29 a month, depending on the level of education. By 2012, these will go up by nearly four times to range from S$51 to S$102 a month.

Foreigners, who now pay between S$131 and S$372 a month, will soon pay double. They will be charged between S$246 and S$772 a month. Students from non-ASEAN countries, who now pay more than ASEAN students, will also see a bigger increase.

Citizens will see no change, for now. Monthly fees for Singapore citizens will remain at the current rate of between S$11 and S$28.
 

Greentide

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Greater chance for S'pore citizens to secure place at popular primary schools
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 20 December 2009 1413 hrs

Greater chance for S'pore citizens to secure place at popular pri schools

SINGAPORE: From next year, Singapore citizens will have a greater chance of getting their child into the primary school of their choice.

The Ministry of Education (MOE) is tweaking the Primary One registration exercise to allow pink identity card holders an additional ballot during the balloting exercise for popular schools, where applications outstrip vacancies.

Currently, permanent residents (PRs) and citizens both get one ballot slip each. Foreigners will not be affected by the change, as they may only apply for a school under Phase 3 of the registration exercise, after Singaporeans and PRs have secured places.

The MOE said on Sunday that giving citizens two chances at the ballot "will provide for diversity in our schools, while simultaneously according Singapore citizens an additional privilege."

It added that the move is in line with the government's intention to "over time, sharpen the differentiation between Singapore citizens, PRs and foreigners to reflect the responsibilities and privileges of citizenship" as highlighted by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong at a speech in September.

Announcing the change at a residents dialogue, Education Minister Ng Eng Hen however said: "I don't want this to come across as against PRs. We still want PRs in our schools, and it doesn't mean that for all our policies, we're always going to be able to say that Singaporeans get two chances compared to the one chance for the PR. That's not the general message."

PRs make up about 8 per cent of students in schools, while foreigners account for about 4 per cent. These relate to the population in primary and secondary schools, as well as JCs and centralised institute.

While the proportion has been consistent over the past few years, the growing presence of new immigrants has nonetheless raised some concerns among Singaporeans.

Dr Ng said: "I know that over the years, Singaporeans have said, 'look, we already have to ballot to get our children into the schools, and we live near. Even with the priority schemes, we still find it hard to get our children into the schools'. What about the issue of Permanent Residents and foreign students?"

But he noted the government has to strike a "delicate balance" between the two.

"We do want, also, PRs to have some privilege of entering our schools, because PRs become citizens as well. And if you don't allow their children to enter the good schools, they might not want to take up PR-ship or become citizens later on," said Dr Ng.

Speaking at a separate event, Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Lim Hwee Hua hoped that the move "sends the message that citizens will always be the primary focus of government policies".

On how the government would explain this policy to non-citizens, she said: "I think the explanation will really revolve around the relative importance of citizens to any country versus permanent residents, and versus non-citizens and non-residents.

"And that the distinction is seen not just in this case, but also in the way we differentiate between healthcare costs and so on. That necessarily would have to be the way we run our policies."

While the change was welcomed by most, parents are still realistic. Jasmine Liang, a parent, said: "In the end, it's still balloting. So in the end, it's still by luck, whether (your child) really can get in (or not)."

Dr Ng added that having PRs and international students in schools has its advantages, as they add diversity to the schools and can expose young Singaporeans to competition at an early age.

Some parents, like Candy Yoo, agreed. "Like my girl, she likes to make friends with people from China. They like to read books that are very difficult, but they're willing to try. So, my girl sees that 'why they can do it, I can't? I have to learn from them'."

The government has in recent years introduced big changes to the education landscape. This invariably means that the costs of schooling will go up. So who will foot the bill?

The minister said that while non-citizens will still get subsidies, they will have to foot the bulk of the costs. Hence, non-citizens will see their school fees go up.

To minimise the impact on existing students, the increase in monthly fees, which include both school and miscellaneous fees, will be spread over two years from 2011.

PRs currently pay between S$14.50 and S$29 a month, depending on the level of education. By 2012, these will go up by nearly four times to range from S$51 to S$102 a month.

Foreigners, who now pay between S$131 and S$372 a month, will soon pay double. They will be charged between S$246 and S$772 a month. Students from non-ASEAN countries, who now pay more than ASEAN students, will also see a bigger increase.

Citizens will see no change, for now. Monthly fees for Singapore citizens will remain at the current rate of between S$11 and S$28.

But some Singaporeans felt the hike for non-citizens was too much. Denis Chow, a parent, said: "If you talk about another 20, 50 percent more, or even double, I think it's still reasonable. But to quadruple, it's a bit hard to stomach.

"To me, if they actually made the choice to come to Singapore to study and stay in Singapore, leaving their own countries and families behind, I think as a basic right, so to speak, we should give them the same kind of fees as Singapore citizens."

But MOE said that even after the hikes, fees are still competitive compared to international and private schools.

- CNA/yb/ir
 

makapaaa

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Why should citizens, especially those who have served NS, be subjected to 'chance' at all? Sporns should not give in to anything less than "Sporns FIRST!"
 

cooleo

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Ass Loong must be shitting in his pants now that he realized that Peasants are increasingly DU LAN with him. Need to soften the anger directed at him with some smoke screen!
 

HellAngel

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Ha...I think for once the PaPies are getting the ground sentiments right. They should continue to listen to this source of info.
 

theblackhole

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so many goodies and so much exposure of our great leaders....everything is going fine and every singaporean is cared for...this is definitely a world class governance....hallelujah!!!...i see all the familiar faces everyday on tv...widely exposed..all so handsome and so confident joining the common people doing all the common things like making roti prata and frying hokkien mee....this is indeed very heartening..golden age is coming ....
 

scroobal

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This is really silly. We get the 2nd rate ones who can't qualify for the 1st world countries and she wants her daughter to learn from them.

Greater chance for S'pore citizens to secure place at popular primary schools
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 20 December 2009 1413 hrs

Greater chance for S'pore citizens to secure place at popular pri schools


Some parents, like Candy Yoo, agreed. "Like my girl, she likes to make friends with people from China. They like to read books that are very difficult, but they're willing to try. So, my girl sees that 'why they can do it, I can't? I have to learn from them'."
 

QXD

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Wonder if any one else here noticed the subtle word play when it is mentioned that Singaporeans would see no changes "for now" while PR's/foreigners would see the increase across the next 2 years.

In between the lines of the statement, PAP is not committing to keeping costs low for citizens, and no guarantees that fees will not be adjusted to "more competitive" levels (i.e. - a less significant gap between citizens and PRs in future) to reflect the "rising costs" of providing education to the masses, come post-election.

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To minimise the impact on existing students, the increase in monthly fees, which include both school and miscellaneous fees, will be spread over two years from 2011.

PRs currently pay between S$14.50 and S$29 a month, depending on the level of education. By 2012, these will go up by nearly four times to range from S$51 to S$102 a month.

Foreigners, who now pay between S$131 and S$372 a month, will soon pay double. They will be charged between S$246 and S$772 a month. Students from non-ASEAN countries, who now pay more than ASEAN students, will also see a bigger increase.

Citizens will see no change, for now. Monthly fees for Singapore citizens will remain at the current rate of between S$11 and S$28.
 

travelbug

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Candy Yoo sounds like a Hongkee to me also a foreigner perhaps turned PR or citizen. Sounds highly suspicious bootlicking to pappydogs to me.

Anyway, again only a cosmetic makeover by devious gahment. Its always subtle changes to differentiate PRs & citizens. PRs are not that financially poor compared to the poorest of Sporeans. I would say go all the way pappydogs before I believe you.

Agreed that balloting is a game of chance so does not make huge difference.

MIW should hit the PRs pockets with at least 50% markup in school fees. There is still a marginal diff only in school fees from primary all the way to tertiary.

So verdict is still no difference at all. Spore citizen & PRs still equal.
 

HellAngel

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Enjoy it while it lasts! All this will expire after GE! Dun forget, whatever that is decided now can be change latter
 

cooleo

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Aiya why charge kachang putih amounts? Impose a 50% property tax on PRs buying properties la. Confirm overpriced properties cool down and make it affordable for Peasants.
 

Naturefarm2

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so many good news...this is indeed the golden age in the making...hallelujah!!!!

Why do we see it as a good news for singaporean?
It do not make any different to us if the goverment increase 50-100% for the PR. This is the smoke screen for the increase in school fee and comfort us for the " so called equal treatment " between singaporean and PR.

why not reduce the cost for singapore 50-100% than PR. It can still service the purpose of creating the gap. they always use smoke screen to divert the attention of singaporean..

:rolleyes:
 

cooleo

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Why do we see it as a good news for singaporean?
It do not make any different to us if the goverment increase 50-100% for the PR. This is the smoke screen for the increase in school fee and comfort us for the " so called equal treatment " between singaporean and PR.

why not reduce the cost for singapore 50-100% than PR. It can still service the purpose of creating the gap. they always use smoke screen to divert the attention of singaporean..

:rolleyes:

PAPpies v smart! Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Charge PRs higher can get higher revenue, and at same time mislead local Peasants that there is advantage in being citizens.
 

potato29

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Wonder if any one else here noticed the subtle word play when it is mentioned that Singaporeans would see no changes "for now" while PR's/foreigners would see the increase across the next 2 years.

this one SOP lah, after elections there will be fee adjustment to provide better quality and to help the poor.
 

Boliao

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1) Sinkies are dumb. Ballot means you cannot get into Phase 2A/B for alumni. If they think that by living nearby and balloting, they can change the pedigree of their children, they are dreaming. By the end of Phase 2B, most schools are left with 10-20 seats.

2) I bet you that after election, they will increase the fees for Singaporean. Remember the lesson and ERP example.. win you pay, lose you also pay.
 

halsey02

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Why should citizens, especially those who have served NS, be subjected to 'chance' at all? Sporns should not give in to anything less than "Sporns FIRST!"

They would not dare to say, SINgaporeanS FIRST!, these are the people, those who voted for them gets!...they deserve to be SCREWED, time & time again!:eek:
 

dunbluffme

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i just wanna say....the increase won't stop PR from fighting for place in school...they can afford de lor...

they increase just to appease noise making aunties...while at the same time they make $$$....

just like ERP...people complain of traffic jam, they just increase year on year, month on month....
 

scroobal

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Its tokenism. People are paying much more for tuition and Mac meals for their kids.

i just wanna say....the increase won't stop PR from fighting for place in school...they can afford de lor...

they increase just to appease noise making aunties...while at the same time they make $$$....

just like ERP...people complain of traffic jam, they just increase year on year, month on month....
 
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