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HDB reply on using HDB for FT dorms

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December 28, 2009 by admin
Filed under Letters
http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/12/28/hdb-reply-to-ms-aurora-longs-letter-on-conversion-of-two-hdb-flats-in-toa-payoh-into-worker-dorms/

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Dear Madam,
1. I refer to your email of 20 Dec 09.
2. The blocks that you have mentioned (Blocks 32 and 33 Toa Payoh Lor 5) were announced for Selective En bloc Redevelopment Scheme (SERS) as part of the Government’s Estate Renewal Strategy. After they are vacated, SERS blocks are demolished according to the redevelopment plans. Pending demolition, the flats are put to interim short-term use.
3. As these flats will be demolished eventually, they are less suitable for HDB’s Public Rental Scheme as the tenants would then have to move in a few years time. To meet the demand for rental flats under the Public Rental Scheme, HDB will be building 7,500 units of new 1-room and 2-room rental flats in the next 3 years.
4. Besides the 2 blocks mentioned, there is another vacated SERS block (block 28) which has been set aside for Interim Rental Housing (IRH). IRH provides temporary housing for citizen families with financial difficulties, in particular, those who are moving from their current flat to another flat that is financially sustainable for them. The IRH flats are offered to these households below the market rent.
5. The managing agent, EM Services Pte Ltd, rents out all other flats at market rent, except for IRH. There are no special rental concessions. The average monthly rent for each flat is about $1,500, which is the market rate.
6. These blocks are leased out on a short term basis, pending the future redevelopment of the site. Hence the Ethnic Integration Policy is not applicable to this site. This is no different from flat lessees who sublet their individual flats.
7. Thank you.
Yours Sincerely,
Kee Lay Cheng
Deputy Director (Land Administration)
Properties & Land Department

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<TABLE class=msgtablealt cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>3:44 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 5) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>26987.2 in reply to 26987.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><LI id=comment-54433 class=alt>Steve Wu on Thu, 7th Jan 2010 11:18 pm
b78fe0a3c8f2cdb843d3ebb19a97a59e

Why am I not surprised? EM Services Pte Ltd is actually a HDB subsidiary.
“Founded as a joint venture between the Housing and Development Board and Keppel Land Limited, EM Services is now a leader in the field of property management services.”
See [URL="http://www.emservices.com.sg/em/AboutUs.aspx"]http://www.emservices.com.sg/em/AboutUs.aspx[/URL] .
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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>mrbell1009 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>4:17 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(3 of 5) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>26987.3 in reply to 26987.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Conclusion: Jobs + housing for FTs</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msgleft width="1%"></TD><TD class=msgopt width="24%" noWrap> Options</TD><TD class=msgrde width="50%" noWrap align=middle>Reply</TD><TD class=wintiny width="25%" noWrap align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgbfrbot></TD><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>2ndclasspple <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>4:25 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right>(4 of 5) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"></TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>26987.4 in reply to 26987.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>meaning??..
citizens are not qualified for cheap housing.. they should pay more for more expensive 3-rm or 4-rm flats.. regardless of whether they can afford or not..
PAP go eat shit.


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meaning??..
citizens are not qualified for cheap housing.. they should pay more for more expensive 3-rm or 4-rm flats.. regardless of whether they can afford or not..
PAP go eat shit.

They are not eatin shits, they are having Avalone saute with wine & sauce & sharfins soup with Alaskan crab meat..you SINgkingporeanS ( 66.6%) enjoy eating shit & getting shit throw in the face...and LOVING IT!
 
Demolished eventually? Nice choice of words, aren't ALL HDB buildings in Singapore demolished eventually? Demolished eventually meaning when? 1 year, 2 years, 99 years? I am sure they do not collapse due to decay.
 
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December 28, 2009 by admin
Filed under Letters
http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/12/28/hdb-reply-to-ms-aurora-longs-letter-on-conversion-of-two-hdb-flats-in-toa-payoh-into-worker-dorms/

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Dear Madam,
1. I refer to your email of 20 Dec 09.
2. The blocks that you have mentioned (Blocks 32 and 33 Toa Payoh Lor 5) were announced for Selective En bloc Redevelopment Scheme (SERS) as part of the Government’s Estate Renewal Strategy. After they are vacated, SERS blocks are demolished according to the redevelopment plans. Pending demolition, the flats are put to interim short-term use.
3. As these flats will be demolished eventually, they are less suitable for HDB’s Public Rental Scheme as the tenants would then have to move in a few years time. To meet the demand for rental flats under the Public Rental Scheme, HDB will be building 7,500 units of new 1-room and 2-room rental flats in the next 3 years.
4. Besides the 2 blocks mentioned, there is another vacated SERS block (block 28) which has been set aside for Interim Rental Housing (IRH). IRH provides temporary housing for citizen families with financial difficulties, in particular, those who are moving from their current flat to another flat that is financially sustainable for them. The IRH flats are offered to these households below the market rent.
5. The managing agent, EM Services Pte Ltd, rents out all other flats at market rent, except for IRH. There are no special rental concessions. The average monthly rent for each flat is about $1,500, which is the market rate.
6. These blocks are leased out on a short term basis, pending the future redevelopment of the site. Hence the Ethnic Integration Policy is not applicable to this site. This is no different from flat lessees who sublet their individual flats.
7. Thank you.
Yours Sincerely,
Kee Lay Cheng
Deputy Director (Land Administration)
Properties & Land Department

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This cow Kee Lay Cheng should know how to lie and bullshit better. This kind of statement makes no sense whatsoever.

1) Why is there an interim use? There should be a short to no interval at all between the time the prior occupants left and when the blocks are demolished. Every month that the HDB lets the flats sit idle awaiting demolishment is money wasted. The HDB should have gotten their demolishment permits in order, why is there a 2 year time lag. This indicates that the HDB in INEFFICIENT. NO private developer will take over a piece of land and let let it sit idle for so long.

2) Why were the flats not offered to the general public for short term rental? There are many people who need short term accomodations. eg. people renovating their units, people want to move out of their parents home until their units are ready, etc. Why only offer it for citizens who have financial difficulties, and FTs?

3) Why is she trying to make it sound like it is the agents fault. EM Services is owned by HDB.

4) Why is the ethnic integration policy not applicable to these 2 blocks? THere is no where that says it is not applicable to "temporary". In fact, 3 years is not temporary, as an election can be called during that time, and any blocks who have a pre dominant ethnic sect can tip the election for that constituency. In any case, the HDB owns website says that EIP applies to SERS too.
 
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