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HDB is a Ponzi Scheme.
Why can't HWZ forumers just be frank, call a spade a spade and say Mah Bow Tan turned HDB into a ponzi scheme?
Would be good too for Singapore if housing prices didn't hit the roof: would attract more talented professionals to Singapore rather than greedy and fleet footed property punters and make Singapore less attractive to terrorist attack because less spectacular would the outcome of the subsequent economic crash be: i.e. the bigger the bubble, the more spectacularly it explodes, so the smaller the property price bubble, the less bang for the buck the terrorist get when executing a terror attack without fleet footed property punters to absolutely deflate the economy at any sign of terrorist upper hand.
Besides, high property prices become an anti-climax factor to younger generation because when they compare LKY generation HDB price appreciation/ inflation (e.g. $10k to $300k over say 30yrs), they see only price deflation (certainly in real terms) in their own case as well as escalating costs of living, which gives them a sour mood about the capabilities and competence of the PAP, which means that PAP political mandate would be much weakened.
So silly of PAP to allow Mah Bow Tan to have driven the train off the track, now have to correct HDB property prices and cool down the expectations of elderly who think HDB flat can provide retirement $$$.
PAP sowed the seeds of its own extinction.
That someone is Mah Bow Tan, just say it lah.
Why can't HWZ forumers just be frank, call a spade a spade and say Mah Bow Tan turned HDB into a ponzi scheme?
Would be good too for Singapore if housing prices didn't hit the roof: would attract more talented professionals to Singapore rather than greedy and fleet footed property punters and make Singapore less attractive to terrorist attack because less spectacular would the outcome of the subsequent economic crash be: i.e. the bigger the bubble, the more spectacularly it explodes, so the smaller the property price bubble, the less bang for the buck the terrorist get when executing a terror attack without fleet footed property punters to absolutely deflate the economy at any sign of terrorist upper hand.
Besides, high property prices become an anti-climax factor to younger generation because when they compare LKY generation HDB price appreciation/ inflation (e.g. $10k to $300k over say 30yrs), they see only price deflation (certainly in real terms) in their own case as well as escalating costs of living, which gives them a sour mood about the capabilities and competence of the PAP, which means that PAP political mandate would be much weakened.
So silly of PAP to allow Mah Bow Tan to have driven the train off the track, now have to correct HDB property prices and cool down the expectations of elderly who think HDB flat can provide retirement $$$.
PAP sowed the seeds of its own extinction.
Soulhacker(HWZ) said:To be fair to the earlier leaders, their vision ish really just about providing cheap and affordable public housing for the peasants. It was never in their plans and vision to use HDB to help peasant become millionaires, that why the need of a short limitation of 99yrs lease cause such public housing are not supposed to be misuse by people as long term investment. It supposed to be just a cheap affordable housing scheme to house one or at most two generations in each family. The cost of public housing under the earlier leadership ish only increase over the years in proportion to the income of sinkie but not as a form of investment.
But when a certain someone take over, then the public housing scheme ish suddenly ganna mutated into some kind of ponzi scheme and one of the vote buying tool. It work in the same way such as the later investors entering the market then the need to pump in more $$$ so it can benefit the earlier pumper to help them become millionaires and keep the scheme sustainable. That why after that someone take over, we start seeing cost of housing jump by large margin over years and longer proportion to peasant wage increase.
And the longer this kind of ponzi scheme drag each later pumper will need to pump in even more $$$ so the scheme can appear profitable to the earlier pumpers. It will however eventually hit a point where future gen won't be able to afford to pump in that kind of $$$ anymore and all the earlier investor are nao stuck with some worthless paper value $hit that can't sell anymore and the whole scheme will just collapse. Don't use brain just use kar chng to think also should know this kind of bubble how can be sustainable in the long run?
But too bad as always, people are simply too greedy and fail to see through such an obvious flaw. That why regardless of so many cases people are still falling for new ponzi schemes, all cause of Greed. :(
That someone is Mah Bow Tan, just say it lah.