Chitchat Grandstanding on Facebook - Loud talking Worker in bus

[scroobal]

Grandstanding is quite common in Facebook and in life. Here is a good example that this lady made it much bigger to sell her attributes and her accomplishment to the public. It was not about the foreign workers or the crazy uncle. We now know the following

- she went to South Korea on an exchange programme
- she has got French friends
- they met during the exchange programme

Not just Singaporeans, even foreigners do get upset about those who shout into their phones. Sometimes these people despite having worked in Singapore this long have to be told the hard way. The reason the rest of the bus kept quiet was that they were probably pleased with the uncle.

What has ancestors, previous generations, etc got do with this incident. She then labels Singaporeans as racists. Her handling of the matter and the grandstanding shows how poorly she handled the situation. She must have assumed that unlike her, Singaporeans who never left the country or have friends from France have no culture and class.

A better is to tell the FW to talk softly when using the phone. People are tired and going home and they do expect some peace and quiet when travelling in the bus. She could have told the Uncle that she has also advised him and that he no longer needs to talk about it. -


https://www.facebook.com/sherylkx/posts/10155230768652942Sheryl Chen feeling sad.
Yesterday at 1:11am · Singapore ·
Never felt more ashamed to be a Singaporean.
I was on the way home from meeting my French friends that I met while on exchange in Korea (backstory will be explained later on). People who take 41 from Jurong East will know that the bus passes by lots of workers' dorms at Toh Guan, so it's really common to have lots of Indian/ Bangladeshi FW on the bus at night.

The start of the bus ride was rather normal, with people just filling up the bus and taking their seats. That peace was broken as the bus started rolling out of the interchange. This Chinese uncle started shouting "Fuck can you shut up? Stop talking!" at a FW who was on the phone. The FW immediately told him that it's a public space and asked him what's wrong with speaking on the phone. I can't remember what the Uncle said but it was something along the lines of how he doesn't like the way he talks and the FW should know his place as a foreigner AND THEN the uncle told the FW that he should be respected because he's an Elderly Singaporean (wtf dude)

At this point EVERYONE on the bus was just silently looking at the commotion happening but no one was stepping in. I understand if the rest of the foreign workers didn't want to step in due to fear of escalating the situation, but there were definitely other Singaporeans on the bus who could have stepped in to get the uncle to calm his giant mantits. At that point I interjected and (politely) told the uncle to calm down. He just kept telling me not to "act smart" and kept verbally abusing the FW with Hokkien vulgarities (classy).

I told the FW to come sit opposite me instead, and he took the offer. Despite this, uncle just kept going on and verbally abusing the FW and yet demanded that the FW should respect him. At this moment I had a very boss moment and told the uncle that RESPECT HAS TO BE DESERVED. Uncle's best comeback was to tell me not to act smart again.

The bus fell (awkwardly) silent, until the uncle was about to alight and told the FW to "behave himself as a foreigner." Oh that gall. FW obviously got dulan and confronted him about it so the uncle challenged him to a fight off the bus (LOL secondary school bengs don't die, they just graduate from toilet fights to bus stop fights). The FW next to me and I both had to restrain the victim FW who was obviously riled up. So I told the uncle that his ancestors were also immigrants and we are all immigrants (yeah bro, your ancestors are from China. What are you gonna do about it????). Uncle started being physically aggressive towards me (and the said victim actually physically shielded me from the uncle :'< ) At that point I shouted at the uncle to just get off the bus (and yes, no other Singaporeans came up to help.)

Once that bugger got off the bus, the other FW and the victim had a debate about not aggravating the crazy. Victim commented that he hoped Crazy Uncle was not Singaporean, because that just gives Singaporeans a very bad name (ooooo I have news for you bro ). He also said that its okay if he gets scolded, but I shouldn't be scolded because I'm innocent and I'm female, which was why he was also physically shielding Crazy Uncle away from me. At that point I was rather emotional because I just kept thinking how shitty racist Singaporeans are, and also how I had used my Chinese privilege to stand up for something but I totally forgot about the privilege I possess as a female (and that I'm really more privileged than I thought.) What I really wish I said to him was that I'm really sorry that he had to experience this, and it's even sadder that I cannot guarantee that it will never ever happen again to him.

As they got off the bus, the FW sitting next to me said "thank you sister for supporting us." It was the victim whose final sentence to me made me emotional though. He thanked me and went "Because of you, I still have faith in Singaporeans."
We are all foreigners. What makes you so special than other FWs just because your ancestors came here 3 generations (or maybe 2 for that uncle) ago? Were they not foreigners too? What makes you superior?

Who died and made you god that you can judge and rank cultures over others? Singaporeans have a penchant of looking up to angmohs and bending their backs over just for them. I'm pretty sure the situation will be much different if it were an Angmoh talking on the phone. We also love east Asia (don't get me started on K wave) and we treat them so well. But when you hear someone is Filipino/ Indian/ Bangladeshi/ PRC you immediately start looking down on them and want them out of your space. You give them so much shit on a daily basis and yet you blame alcohol intoxication for causing riots. #neverforget
Singaporeans, you are really so ugly

 

[Satyr]

We need more people like that Uncle. Guests should not dictate the tone of the place. Loud phone conversations in enclosed places such as buses and lifts are maddening. Think the Uncle just lost it.

 

[scroobal]

I agree. She could have been that person quietly telling the guy knowing full well that it is not an acceptable conduct.

We need more people like that Uncle. Guests should not dictate the tone of the place. Loud phone conversations in enclosed places such as buses and lifts are maddening. Think the Uncle just lost it.

 

[halsey02]

I will F$#$^^% that FT, but does not support UNCLE...for his rudeness but to support him "TELL OFF THOSE FOREIGNERS".....yes, it is a public space...BUT WE ARE SINGAPORE, SINGAPOREANS....THAT PUBLIC SPACE BELONGS TO US....ha ha ha ha "uncle" forgot to tell the FT.....

 

[fupikee]

I agree. She could have been that person quietly telling the guy knowing full well that it is not an acceptable conduct.

Who the fxxx did this bitch think she is.....telling others what to do and butting into other people's business, when it was none of her business at all? Typical Bloody Bitch syndrome ....

I do notice that there exists in Singapore a species of such bitches, who often in public, just love telling others, especially men (with no relation or connection to her at all, that is, strangers):

a do this and do that;
b don't do this and don't that;

....directing them as if they are small children, or acting like they are people in high positions/managers, telling subordinates what to do. These bitches, usually are middle aged (over mid 30s'), often big bulked, or have fatness oozing somewhere along the body, walk in an exaggerated and proud manner with arms flinging here, there and eyes flashing from left to right, looking for targets to unleash their unwelcomed instructions upon ...

Men who are meek will fall into the manipulative moves of these bitches and quietly follow the instructions. Those who are not so easily cowed by these bitches will scold them and become victims themselves when they are labelled as uncouth, rude, etc. Finally those who are able to ignore and reasonably argue successfully back with them will be labelled as 'ungentlemently.....arguing or not giving way to 'ladies' in public....

These bitches with dominatrix complex just need to be taught a lesson...they are not the lords of the land...nobody needs another person to come and tell them in public ..... to do this and do that or not to do this and not to do that..... only then will the bitches know they cannot simply bull doze their way through others and learn to 'guai guai' fade way from providing unwelcomed instructions to others....

 

[Bonut]

He also said that its okay if he gets scolded, but I shouldn't be scolded because I'm innocent and I'm female, which was why he was also physically shielding Crazy Uncle away from me. At that point I was rather emotional because I just kept thinking how shitty racist Singaporeans are, and also how I had used my Chinese privilege to stand up for something but I totally forgot about the privilege I possess as a female (and that I'm really more privileged than I thought.) What I really wish I said to him was that I'm really sorry that he had to experience this, and it's even sadder that I cannot guarantee that it will never ever happen again to hi

Mangina alert!

 

[halsey02]

Mangina alert!

Uncle should have told her " shut up you bitch, you go f$%#$^ that________"

 

[Brightkid]

I was neutral as these incidents happens all the time even with sinkies talking on the phone, until I read the sentence 'we are all immigrants'.

Kanina, now I wondered why I have to do NS and reservists if I am an immigrant. Even my 2 generations of seniors are born and breed here in sinkapooh.

Not that I side the FW or old uncle but What the fxxk this lady is talking about? Immigrant?

 

[Bonut]

Uncle should have told her " shut up you bitch, you go f$%#$^ that________"

This is a common tactic that ManGina Nehs employed to sianz Chinese girls.

我很臭, 可是我很温柔。

 

[scroobal]

When we expressed our sentiments very strongly about the Filipinos holding the national day celebration in our country in the way they planned, it was a cabinet minister that labeled us xenophobic. She is no different. Ask her to talk loudly on a phone in London Bus. She would not as its the wrong thing to do. Yet she act so high and mighty and bring out grandfather story about our roots and the migrant shit. Tell to write on her Facebook that the French came from Africa, the cradle of the human race.

We have idiots like that who display their ignorance. Don't be surprised that if TCJ, Shan or one of the PAP MP carry this on their Facebook. The is no different to asking the Indian family not to cook curry because of complaints from PRC neighbours.

 

[Bonut]

I was neutral as these incidents happens all the time even with sinkies talking on the phone, until I read the sentence 'we are all immigrants'.

Kanina, now I wondered why I have to do NS and reservists if I am an immigrant. Even my 2 generations of seniors are born and breed here in sinkapooh.

Not that I side the FW or old uncle but What the fxxk this lady is talking about? Immigrant?

She is adopting the Pappy tag line.

 

[Bonut]

Who the fxxx did this bitch think she is.....telling others what to do and butting into other people's business, when it was none of her business at all? Typical Bloody Bitch syndrome ....

I do notice that there exists in Singapore a species of such bitches, who often in public, just love telling others, especially men (with no relation or connection to her at all, that is, strangers):

a do this and do that;
b don't do this and don't that;

....directing them as if they are small children, or acting like they are people in high positions/managers, telling subordinates what to do. These bitches, usually are middle aged (over mid 30s'), often big bulked, or have fatness oozing somewhere along the body, walk in an exaggerated and proud manner with arms flinging here, there and eyes flashing from left to right, looking for targets to unleash their unwelcomed instructions upon ...

Men who are meek will fall into the manipulative moves of these bitches and quietly follow the instructions. Those who are not so easily cowed by these bitches will scold them and become victims themselves when they are labelled as uncouth, rude, etc. Finally those who are able to ignore and reasonably argue successfully back with them will be labelled as 'ungentlemently.....arguing or not giving way to 'ladies' in public....

These bitches with dominatrix complex just need to be taught a lesson...they are not the lords of the land...nobody needs another person to come and tell them in public ..... to do this and do that or not to do this and not to do that..... only then will the bitches know they cannot simply bull doze their way through others and learn to 'guai guai' fade way from providing unwelcomed instructions to others....

I can vouch Ah Nehs just love talking on their mobile phones when in the crowd. Nowadays men are more talkative than women. Talk and talk like Ah Sohs.

 

[fupikee]

I can vouch Ah Nehs just love talking on their mobile phones when in the crowd. Nowadays men are more talkative than women. Talk and talk like Ah Sohs.

The point I am trying to make in my post is not the fact that the person love to talk....indeed talking louding, whether on the phone or with others in the confined space of the bus or MRT is highly irritating and rude....everyone deserves peace and quiet instead of having loudspeakers baring near to you.

The point I want to make is that such a kind of bitch, has the habit of wanting to dominate others, especially men, and tell them to do this and do that. Most adult men would have realised very early that MOST women have a tendency towards wanting to dominate the men around them. This species of bitches even extend and project their tendencies outwards in public and seek to instruct & direct men who are total strangers. They may do it consciously or unconsciously, but both is a reflection of their need to seek control of others...at the same time, it is an unconscious (or conscious) attempt to cover up for their inferiority complex by dominating others or projecting an attitude of superiority through instructing others to do this and to do that. Mostly, they cannot do it on other women, as other women themselves know and recognise such behaviour, having practise it themselves. Thus, they often turn their attention on men as the latter have a tendency to 'give way' to women to avoid public confrontations with them.

For example, such bitches may jump queue right in front of a man (but not a woman!) and if the man protests she may then proceed to berate the man for being 'ungentlemanly', arguing with a woman in public. The aggressor turns herself into the 'victim' and the 'victim' becomes the aggressor. In the above case, the bitch butts into a spat between strangers, then proceeds to direct both men to do this and that, turning the image of victims into aggressors. She went further by posting on FB her supposed wounded feelings by the uncle by bringing in the racist angle, immigration angle, etc....just to justify/cover up her behaviour of butting into other peoples' business....

OK, then, enough said.

 

[Bonut]

The point I am trying to make in my post is not the fact that the person love to talk....indeed talking louding, whether on the phone or with others in the confined space of the bus or MRT is highly irritating and rude....everyone deserves peace and quiet instead of having loudspeakers baring near to you.

The point I want to make is that such a kind of bitch, has the habit of wanting to dominate others, especially men, and tell them to do this and do that. Most adult men would have realised very early that MOST women have a tendency towards wanting to dominate the men around them. This species of bitches even extend and project their tendencies outwards in public and seek to instruct & direct men who are total strangers. They may do it consciously or unconsciously, but both is a reflection of their need to seek control of others...at the same time, it is an unconscious (or conscious) attempt to cover up for their inferiority complex by dominating others or projecting an attitude of superiority through instructing others to do this and to do that. Mostly, they cannot do it on other women, as other women themselves know and recognise such behaviour, having practise it themselves. Thus, they often turn their attention on men as the latter have a tendency to 'give way' to women to avoid public confrontations with them.

For example, such bitches may jump queue right in front of a man (but not a woman!) and if the man protests she may then proceed to berate the man for being 'ungentlemanly', arguing with a woman in public. The aggressor turns herself into the 'victim' and the 'victim' becomes the aggressor. In the above case, the bitch butts into a spat between strangers, then proceeds to direct both men to do this and that, turning the image of victims into aggressors. She went further by posting on FB her supposed wounded feelings by the uncle by bringing in the racist angle, immigration angle, etc....just to justify/cover up her behaviour of butting into other peoples' business....

OK, then, enough said.

Your observation didn't go unnoticed. You know why? It's highly probable that behind every bitch there is a manGina feeding her ego.

 

[halsey02]

The point I am trying to make in my post is not the fact that the person love to talk....indeed talking louding, whether on the phone or with others in the confined space of the bus or MRT is highly irritating and rude....everyone deserves peace and quiet instead of having loudspeakers baring near to you.

The point I want to make is that such a kind of bitch, has the habit of wanting to dominate others, especially men, and tell them to do this and do that. Most adult men would have realised very early that MOST women have a tendency towards wanting to dominate the men around them. This species of bitches even extend and project their tendencies outwards in public and seek to instruct & direct men who are total strangers. They may do it consciously or unconsciously, but both is a reflection of their need to seek control of others...at the same time, it is an unconscious (or conscious) attempt to cover up for their inferiority complex by dominating others or projecting an attitude of superiority through instructing others to do this and to do that. Mostly, they cannot do it on other women, as other women themselves know and recognise such behaviour, having practise it themselves. Thus, they often turn their attention on men as the latter have a tendency to 'give way' to women to avoid public confrontations with them.

For example, such bitches may jump queue right in front of a man (but not a woman!) and if the man protests she may then proceed to berate the man for being 'ungentlemanly', arguing with a woman in public. The aggressor turns herself into the 'victim' and the 'victim' becomes the aggressor. In the above case, the bitch butts into a spat between strangers, then proceeds to direct both men to do this and that, turning the image of victims into aggressors. She went further by posting on FB her supposed wounded feelings by the uncle by bringing in the racist angle, immigration angle, etc....just to justify/cover up her behaviour of butting into other peoples' business....

OK, then, enough said.

It goes all the way back to that "bitch" that drafted the WOMAN'S CHARTER....get it?

 

[fupikee]

Your observation didn't go unnoticed. You know why? It's highly probable that behind every bitch there is a manGina feeding her ego.

Agreed!

Such bitches just like to manipulate men to their advantage, transferring blame. Her wrong behaviour is twisted to become the wrong behaviour committed by others, especially men.

Control and dominance are their ultimate objectives in their pursuit of one up against others, inclusive of other bitches....we always see such scenarios being played out when there are disputes, quarrels, fights, where a woman or women is (are) involved.

 

[maxsanic]

Nothing new, there are lots of clowns like this lady on social media. First of all, it's pretty doubtful that things transpired exactly the same way as she narrated. There is so much emotional outburst and personal projection in the write up that I suspect the only facts in the incident are - 1) A FW was talking on the phone and 2) An uncle confronted the FW.

The rest like Scroobal said, is just grandstanding and attention whoring.

 

[Charlie99]

Regardless of where we come from, and where we reside, there are social norms and basic courtesy.

We all make mistakes.
I recall that on a train, I was told to speak softer because I was angry and shouted at the other person on the line.

Tolerance and generosity are desirable.

I remember a guy whose parents came from Ukraine and became university professors (physics/astro physics and history) in Toronto, who told me that immigrants become new Canadians and we were once new Canadians.
About ten years ago, I had phoned him to inform him that when he said hello to my wife at Saturday School for our children, my wife did not recognize him, and to thank his parents on my wife's behalf because decades ago, when my wife and her sibling initially immigrated to Toronto, his parents paid for the summer camp for my wife and her sibling.

 

[SNTCK]

Regardless of where we come from, and where we reside, there are social norms and basic courtesy.

We all make mistakes.
I recall that on a train, I was told to speak softer because I was angry and shouted at the other person on the line.

Tolerance and generosity are desirable.

I remember a guy whose parents came from Ukraine and became university professors (physics/astro physics and history) in Toronto, who told me that immigrants become new Canadians and we were once new Canadians.
About ten years ago, I had phoned him to inform him that when he said hello to my wife at Saturday School for our children, my wife did not recognize him, and to thank his parents on my wife's behalf because decades ago, when my wife and her sibling initially immigrated to Toronto, his parents paid for the summer camp for my wife and her sibling.

yes, best comment, not subjective.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I read about this incident posted by this cunt on her FB page.

In singapore people don't judge a situation by the actions committed by the people but who they are what race,gender, social status etc they are.

That is why instead of the foreign worker getting flamed for talking loudly she decided to flame the old uncle instead for telling off that fucking worker.

Just change the foreign worker to a tiong doing the same exact thing and the old man say a m&d or a shit skin sinkie doing the same thing and that bitch wouldn't write all that drivel.