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Tan Kin Lian addresses concerns over his Facebook posts about 'pretty' girls
A video compiling several posts from the presidential hopeful about seeing attractive girls on buses and in malls is making the rounds on TikTok.
A screengrab of the TikTok video compiling Mr Tan Kin Lian's Facebook posts.
Abigail Ng
21 Aug 2023SINGAPORE: Presidential hopeful Mr Tan Kin Lian said a "small minority" of people are uncomfortable with his social media posts that talk about "pretty" girls.
Mr Tan was responding to CNA’s question on Monday (Aug 21) after a video on TikTok that compiled several posts got more than 190,000 views and over 5,000 likes.
Checks by CNA confirmed that the posts in the video were legitimate. One TikTok user commented: "He does this all the time. (I don't know) why (Elections Department) can pass him haha."
Mr Tan, a former NTUC Income chief executive, was one of three candidates who received a certificate of eligibility on Friday for the Presidential Election. He is due to submit his nomination papers on Tuesday.
Former senior minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam and former GIC chief investment officer Ng Kok Song also qualified to stand for the election.
The video on TikTok was posted on Sunday by an account called spillthetea.sg, and was still racking up views on Monday.
But Mr Tan said most people are not bothered by his posts.
"Most of the people say it is quite light, it's quite enjoyable. That's how I build my people to be interested," he told reporters before his walkabout at a hawker centre in Clementi West.
"There will be a few people who feel uncomfortable, but that is a very small minority, that's a very small minority. (The) majority actually find that to be quite okay, quite fun."
Mr Tan added that he posts on Facebook about other things, including "simple posts" about his meals at hawker centres. Those also attract some "nasty comments", questioning why he has to post about his bowl of fishball noodle soup on social media.
"I say, please leave it to me. If you don't like what I post, please stay out. Don't make very rude remarks," he said.
"Some of the people actually do it because they are malicious. They just want to make me look bad. And I think that's no good. Not necessary.
"I ignore malicious people who are out to create trouble for me, so long as the majority of people find that those are quite harmless. Some people will be malicious."
https://www.aware.org.sg/2023/08/statement-on-the-presidential-elections-2023/
We share the public’s concerns that a candidate, who has a history of objectifying women, has been cleared to participate in the upcoming Presidential Elections.
Consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent, or commenting about their appearance isn’t merely a matter of personal preference or light “amusement”. It’s an act of objectifying women, reducing them solely to their appearances for their personal entertainment. Such behaviour from anyone in or aspiring to a position of influence suggests that it’s acceptable to trivialise women and overlook their myriad abilities and contributions.
But here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement. It signifies that these views and behaviours are not just acceptable, but perhaps even acceptable enough for a potential presidency.
Do we want a society where behaviours that objectify half its population get a tacit nod? Or do we push for a nation that evaluates every individual beyond the surface level, acknowledging their full worth and potential? Our President should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be.
We urge the Presidential Election Commission to thoroughly consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future. The assessment process should not only take into account financial and management qualifications but also wider societal impacts to ensure our leadership truly upholds the values of respect, equality, and dignity for all Singaporeans.
Statement on the Presidential Elections 2023
August 21st, 2023We share the public’s concerns that a candidate, who has a history of objectifying women, has been cleared to participate in the upcoming Presidential Elections.
Consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent, or commenting about their appearance isn’t merely a matter of personal preference or light “amusement”. It’s an act of objectifying women, reducing them solely to their appearances for their personal entertainment. Such behaviour from anyone in or aspiring to a position of influence suggests that it’s acceptable to trivialise women and overlook their myriad abilities and contributions.
But here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement. It signifies that these views and behaviours are not just acceptable, but perhaps even acceptable enough for a potential presidency.
Do we want a society where behaviours that objectify half its population get a tacit nod? Or do we push for a nation that evaluates every individual beyond the surface level, acknowledging their full worth and potential? Our President should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be.
We urge the Presidential Election Commission to thoroughly consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future. The assessment process should not only take into account financial and management qualifications but also wider societal impacts to ensure our leadership truly upholds the values of respect, equality, and dignity for all Singaporeans.
Tan Kin Lian addresses criticisms over Facebook posts on ‘pretty girls’
Zhaki Abdullah
August 21, 2023
SINGAPORE - Presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian, 75, has dismissed criticisms of his Facebook posts that mention pretty girls, saying only a small minority are uncomfortable with them.
On Monday, Mr Tan addressed the issue after a TikTok video compiling several of such posts went viral over the weekend. It has been viewed more than 225,000 times as of Monday evening.
The former NTUC Income chief executive has occasionally made references to “pretty girls”, “pretty joggers” and “pretty slim girls” on his public Facebook page. There have been at least 18 such posts since 2022, and five since the start of 2023.
Most visitors to his page found such posts “quite light (and) quite enjoyable”, Mr Tan told reporters during a walkabout at West Coast Market Square.
“There will be a few people who feel uncomfortable, but that is a very small minority,” he said in response to a question about these posts.
“(The) majority actually find that to be quite okay – quite fun.”
Mr Tan said such posts are how he builds his online audience, and that he has other posts, such as those about his meals “that bring in 100,000 people, half a million people... simple posts”.
This aspect of Mr Tan’s social media activity has raised eyebrows in recent days, particularly since he was deemed eligible by the Presidential Elections Committee (PEC) on Aug 18 to contest the presidency.
A thread on online forum Reddit about Mr Tan’s more colourful posts has drawn over 1,600 upvotes since it was started on Friday.
Some commenters on both the TikTok video and the Reddit thread asked how the PEC decided that Mr Tan qualifies to run in the election. In the certificates of eligibility issued to Mr Tan and the other eligible candidates, the PEC said it is “satisfied that you are a man of integrity, good character and reputation”.
On Monday, the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) said it shared the public’s concerns that a candidate who has a history of objectifying women has been cleared to participate in the presidential election.
The gender equality group said that consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent or commenting about their appearance reduces them solely to their appearances for personal entertainment, and suggests that it is acceptable to trivialise women.
“Yet here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement,” it said in a Facebook post that linked a news article about the TikTok video.
This signifies that such behaviour is not just acceptable, but perhaps even agreeable enough for a potential president to have, said Aware. It urged the PEC to consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future.
“The president should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be,” it added.
The Straits Times has contacted the Elections Department and the PEC for comment on the concerns raised by Aware and the public.
On Monday, Mr Tan said people who dislike his posts and “pass nasty comments” should stay away from his Facebook page.
“Some of the people actually do it because they are malicious; they just want to make me look bad,” he said.
“So I ignore malicious people who are out to create trouble for me, so long as the majority of the people find that those (posts) are quite harmless.”
Certificate of eligibility for Tan Kin Lian not an endorsement of his social media posts: Presidential Elections Committee
Zhaki Abdullah
August 21, 2023
SINGAPORE - The issuance of a certificate of eligibility to presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian does not an amount to an endorsement of his social media posts, the Presidential Elections Committee (PEC) said on Monday.
In a statement, the PEC said it does not go through every applicant’s past social media posts before issuing or declining a certificate of eligibility.
The matter of Mr Tan’s social media posts came to the fore on Monday, after a TikTok video compiling several of his posts went viral over the weekend, having been viewed more than 225,000 times as at Monday evening.
The former NTUC Income chief executive has occasionally made references to “pretty girls”, “pretty joggers” and “pretty slim girls” on his public Facebook page. There have been at least 18 such posts since 2022, and five since the start of 2023.
The PEC said that where comments made by an applicant on social media or in other media are specifically brought to its attention before a certificate of eligibility is issued or declined, the PEC would consider them in its assessment of the applicant’s eligibility.
After a certificate has been issued, the PEC is not legally entitled to revisit its earlier decision to confirm or revoke the certificate it had previously issued, it added.
Any additional facts regarding a candidate which come to public attention after the candidate’s certificate has been issued would be for the electorate’s consideration and assessment before casting their votes, said the committee.
“The PEC was not aware of Mr Tan’s social media posts before Mr Tan’s certificate of eligibility was issued,” it said. “Hence, the issuing of the certificate could not have amounted to an endorsement of Mr Tan’s social media posts by the PEC.”
Earlier on Monday, Mr Tan dismissed criticisms of his Facebook posts, saying only a small minority are uncomfortable with them.
Most visitors to his page found such posts “quite light (and) quite enjoyable”, the former NTUC Income chief executive told reporters during a walkabout at West Coast Market Square.
“There will be a few people who feel uncomfortable, but that is a very small minority,” he said in response to a question about these posts.
“(The) majority actually find that to be quite okay – quite fun.”
Mr Tan said such posts are how he builds his online audience, and that he has other posts, such as those about his meals “that bring in 100,000 people, half a million people... simple posts”.
An earlier thread on online forum Reddit about Mr Tan’s more colourful posts attracted over 1,600 upvotes since it was started last Friday. That was the day the PEC issued three candidates certificates of eligibility, including Mr Tan.
Some commenters on both the TikTok video and the Reddit thread asked how the PEC decided that Mr Tan qualifies to run in the election. In the certificates of eligibility issued to Mr Tan and the other eligible candidates, the PEC said it is “satisfied that you are a man of integrity, good character and reputation”.
On Monday, the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) said it shared the public’s concerns that a candidate who has a history of objectifying women has been cleared to participate in the presidential election.
The gender equality group said that consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent or commenting about their appearance reduces them solely to their appearances for personal entertainment, and suggests that it is acceptable to trivialise women.
“Yet here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement,” it said in a Facebook post that linked a news article about the TikTok video.
This signifies that such behaviour is not just acceptable, but perhaps even agreeable enough for a potential president to have, said Aware. It urged the PEC to consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future.
“The president should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be,” it added.
Trump did it. Clinton did. So what the fuck is the problem ?
Apparently Piss And Poop wants to use this insignificant issue to tarnish and disqualify him.
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