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FTrash Docs Can't Even Speak Engrish. Expect More Misdiagnosis!

makapaaa

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR>Hey doc, how good is your English?
</TR><!-- headline one : end --><TR>Citing patient safety, SMC raises language proficiency bar for foreign-trained doctors </TR><!-- Author --><TR><TD class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold" colSpan=2>By Jessica Jaganathan
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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->FOREIGN-TRAINED doctors will have to meet more stringent English language requirements before they can practise here.
The Singapore Medical Council (SMC) has said that it wants foreign-trained doctors to be able to do equally well in understanding, speaking, reading and writing in the language.
They will be given a score on each of these skills on a nine-point-scale, and must do equally well in all four, scoring seven. Nine is the top score. This differs from the present method, which requires them to get an overall score of seven.
The change, announced on the SMC's website, applies to the scoring system for the International English Language Testing System (IELTS). Other tests recognised by SMC are the Test Of English as a Foreign Language and Occupational English Test.
The scoring of the IELTS, administered by the British Council, has led to some confusion about what level of proficiency is regarded as adequate.
Dr Charles Vu, who sits on the medical manpower development panel of Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH), said: 'You can potentially have someone from Myanmar or Vietnam who can read and write but not be able to speak English well.
'Listening to and speaking English should be just as, if not more important, when communicating with patients.'
The issue of foreign-trained doctors' ability to communicate with patients has surfaced time and again, but is more significant now, with the Health Ministry's expanding the list of recognised foreign medical schools from 20 in 2003 to nearly 160 last year.
Among the recognised universities are some which do not use English as a medium of instruction, such as Nagoya University's faculty of medicine and The West China College of Medicine in Sichuan University.
Dr Vu said that with the expanded list of recognised schools, more stringent English requirements are more important now than ever before.
Said an SMC spokesman: 'Casenotes, requests and communication between health-care professionals are all in English, so for patient safety, whatever is communicated in the management must be understood.'
There were 524 foreign-trained graduate doctors registered here in 2006, up from 460 the year before. About 8 per cent, from countries such as Japan, South Korea, Belgium, Germany and China, need to take language tests.
Various hospitals here have programmes to immerse foreign-trained doctors in local culture. Alexandra Hospital organises events for staff to showcase their culture, and Tan Tock Seng Hospital holds Chinese and Malay language classes for its foreign doctors.
But Associate Professor Tay Eng Hseon, who chairs the medical board at KK Women's and Children's Hospital (KKH), cautioned against too stringent requirements for the language.
He said KKH lost an excellent anaesthesiologist who just could not make the cut in the language department. Despite repeated attempts, the doctor only managed a score of six. The hospital appealed to retain the doctor but was unsuccessful, said Prof Tay. [email protected]
 

travelbug

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If the KK Hospital doctor failed English no matter how competent he is, sooner or later a drastic human error will occur on his part cos of MIScommunication. I hate it so much when these idiotic Sporeans side so much with FT trash to say must retain them based on talent! PHUI!PHUI!PHUI! Good riddance to good talent too cos we the Spore citizens will have to pay with our lives when he cannot understand us no matter how good he is! The KK Hospital adminstrators must belong to the idiotic 66.6% who voted PAP!
 

theblackhole

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Sooner or later have neh neh or pinoy doctors... maybe chinaman too

what sooner or later..already got already....some more cambodian doctors, myanmar doctors..thai doctors...or sorts of doctors also god....they speak our dialects? they understand our problems? they understand our cultures?...they good ? be a patient in one of the hospitals or visit your grandma in the old folks homes or community hospitals, see for yourselves...or go to opds and listen to the translations needed....you shocked until vomit blood...this is world class?
 

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Dr Charles Vu, who sits on the medical manpower development panel of Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH), said: 'You can potentially have someone from Myanmar or Vietnam who can read and write but not be able to speak English well.

Dr. Vu? Vietnamese?
 

SIFU

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what sooner or later..already got already....some more cambodian doctors, myanmar doctors..thai doctors...or sorts of doctors also god....they speak our dialects? they understand our problems? they understand our cultures?...they good ? be a patient in one of the hospitals or visit your grandma in the old folks homes or community hospitals, see for yourselves...or go to opds and listen to the translations needed....you shocked until vomit blood...this is world class?

polyclinic already got pinoy doctors..:biggrin:
 

blackmore

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what sooner or later..already got already....some more cambodian doctors, myanmar doctors..thai doctors...or sorts of doctors also god....they speak our dialects? they understand our problems? they understand our cultures?...they good ? be a patient in one of the hospitals or visit your grandma in the old folks homes or community hospitals, see for yourselves...or go to opds and listen to the translations needed....you shocked until vomit blood...this is world class?

Our world class healthcare system doesn;t care whether these FT Doctors understand anything about Singapore culture. To them they are interested in getting the job done. Most of them are too clinical in diagnostics, the more test being ordered by FTs relating to diagnosing the actual problem the more it will profit the clinic or hospital.

Came across a few that also made me vomit blood in different hospital; different situation. You tell them the symptoms and they keep asking none relevant questions. Good at wasting your time.

Worst are Mynmars, most of the time, you will never understand what the heck they are saying.
 

saf_ranger

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we have SMU,NTU,NEE YANG poly etc...,and all this school are world class,and yet we are unable to product talent singaporean,so are they school telling us that we have whole class eduation but cannot product talent ppl.fuck teh PAPee
 

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KKH lost an excellent anaesthesiologist who just could not make the cut in the language department. Despite repeated attempts, the doctor only managed a score of six. The hospital appealed to retain the doctor but was unsuccessful, said Prof Tay.

This is scary and dangerous in the event of complications as clear communication cannot be compromised. Anaesthesiologist must work with a team and not solo. Building medical hub to attract foreign patients is going to be another big joke with such standards. What is wrong with MOH ?? Approved overseas universities for medical degrees has been expanded from 20+ to a hefty 160+ these 1/2 years.
 
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