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From 10 Aug - a country divided: Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated

LITTLEREDDOT

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Divergent lives from Tuesday for the vaccinated and unvaccinated in S'pore​

For the vaccinated, daily life will resume, allowing them to dine out at restaurants and participate in indoor sports classes or large events.


For the vaccinated, daily life will resume, allowing them to dine out at restaurants and participate in indoor sports classes or large events.PHOTO: ST FILE
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Linette Lai
Political Correspondent

Aug 9, 2021

SINGAPORE - As Singapore eases its strict rules on social gatherings starting on Tuesday (Aug 10), its population will begin living two divergent lives.
For the vaccinated, daily life will resume, allowing them to dine at restaurants and participate in indoor sports classes or large events.
Those who are not vaccinated - a much smaller group - will have to take Covid-19 tests for all such activities. Without these pre-event tests, they will have to limit themselves to dining in pairs at hawker centres or coffee shops, and keep to much smaller gatherings.
This approach is to protect the unvaccinated as the consequences of their contracting the virus can be much more severe, said Health Minister Ong Ye Kung on Friday.
But the policy has proven contentious, with an online petition calling on the Government to drop such differentiated rules garnering more than 10,000 signatures since it was started two weeks ago.
Some members of the public have lambasted the rules as an act of discrimination, while others expressed discomfort with the way they had been communicated.


"You can look at it as protecting the unvaccinated, or as a big stick to punish them for declining the vaccine," Mr Peter Heng, a 41-year-old lawyer, told The Straits Times. "The same measure could be perceived very differently by different groups of the public."
He is not vaccinated - partly because he is worried about potential serious side effects he may develop, but also because he believes in the primacy of personal choice.
Ms Macalia Fong, who has serious allergies to several drugs and has been advised by a specialist doctor to hold back on getting jabbed, added that many restaurants have already told her they will not accept unvaccinated customers - even though she is more than willing to pay for a test.
"It's not that I don't want to take the vaccine," said Ms Fong, who is in her 60s and works for a multinational firm. "I also want to protect myself. But under these circumstances, I cannot do that - I will put myself at risk."

What impact can such differentiated policies have on society?
Such policies can be divisive if people who stand to lose feel that they are being unjustly penalised, said National University of Singapore sociologist Tan Ern Ser.
These could include those who are ineligible for vaccination, as well as those who have legitimate reasons to fear potential side effects despite official advice giving them the green light - for example, pregnant women, he added.

"After all, they and their spouse or partner... are the ones who have to be responsible for raising the child," Associate Professor Tan said. "However, I am less sympathetic towards those who perceive vaccination as a form of oppression."
He hoped that the calibrated rules would feel "more like a nudge" for those who are hesitant to get jabbed.
Infectious diseases specialist Paul Tambyah suggested that one way to think about this issue would be to take reference from the healthcare sector, where workers who cannot show proof of immunity to hepatitis B are typically deployed to roles where they will not have contact with patients or be involved in "exposure-prone procedures".
"This is a bit different, but a reasonable analogy, as the principle is protection of patients with a safe and effective vaccine which has been used in this country for more than 20 years," said Professor Tambyah, who is president of the Asia Pacific Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infection.
Professor Teo Yik Ying, dean of the National University of Singapore's Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health, also suggested that people who are not vaccinated stay in a "social bubble" where they only interact with others who are ready to restrict their own movements and social interactions. This is to prevent the virus from spreading to those with weaker defences, as vaccinated people can still become infected and transmit the virus.
"What this means is that if you are vaccinated but there is someone in your household that is not vaccinated, especially an elderly person, then there is a need for you to minimise your social interactions with others," he said. "The intention is never to discriminate, but to protect the unvaccinated people from severe disease and deaths."
 

TerrexLee

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I am fully vaxxed. That said, I stand in solidarity with my fellow unvaxxed S'poreans. As such, I shan't dine at restaurants come Aug 10.​


Exceptionally desperate to boost inoculation rates so it could unabashedly pimp Singapore once more to all and sundry, this PAP government has resorted to an overtly underhanded strategy of discrimination based on vaccine status. Divide and conquer through engendering infighting amongst citizens, brilliant yet despicable. Well, I got news for you dear monkeys in white, your agenda shall fail miserably - because we have since realized you never cared whether we live or die; you would do whatever it takes just to flourish atop our bones.

When another of your inexplicably hurried, vacillating decisions to lift dining restrictions comes into effect next Tuesday, I shall take the first step of refusing to set foot inside restaurants. Rest assured I am not alone, for more than a dozen of my friends have pledged to do the same. And when word spreads, I have utmost faith many will follow suit to unequivocably demonstrate the fallibility of your judgement call.


Vaccinated or not - either we eat together, or we don't.

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laksaboy

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Divide and conquer: easier to rule the sheeple. It happened long before the pandemic or vaccines ever existed.

Also a good distraction from other more pertinent issues e.g. the economy. :wink:
 

tobelightlight

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First of all, the unvaccinated ones didn't ask for protection at all. Why does the govt think they need the protection? Did they govt ask them if they want any protection? What BS is this?
 

Balls2U

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No big deal! If can't done at restaurants, I will just eat at hawker centres and kopitiam. Even if can't dine at hawker centres and kopitiams, I'll cook my own meals at most. But don't expect me to yield and get a jab. Fuck Off!
 

eatshitndie

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i’ve posted this on another thread. data shows a stark and unfortunate difference. this just in from californication department of pubic health.
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LITTLEREDDOT

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Those unvaccinated against Covid-19 can no longer eat at hawker centres, enter malls, from Oct 13​

The Ministry of Health said that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.


The Ministry of Health said that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.

PHOTO: ST FILE
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Adeline Tan

Oct 9, 2021

SINGAPORE - Unvaccinated individuals will no longer be able to dine in, go to shopping malls, hawker centres and coffee shops, or visit attractions from next Wednesday (Oct 13).
However, unvaccinated children who are 12 years old or below can still do so.
The Ministry of Health said on Saturday (Oct 9) that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.
Those who have recovered from Covid-19, or have a valid negative pre-event test result, are also considered fully vaccinated.
Speaking at a press conference by the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19 on Saturday (Oct 9), Minister for Trade and Industry Gan Kim Yong said: “There have been a few settings frequently visited by a significant proportion of infected individuals, including those who are unvaccinated, who later on fell very ill.”
He added that such settings include food and beverage (F&B) outlets, retail establishments and shopping centres.

Currently, those who are unvaccinated can dine in at hawker centres and coffee shops. They will no longer be allowed to do so under the new rules kicking in on Wednesday.
Instead, groups of up to only two fully vaccinated people will be allowed to dine in at hawker centres or coffee shops, as well as F&B establishments, MOH said.
Unvaccinated in S'pore? You no longer can eat at hawker centres, enter malls | THE BIG STORY

“Individuals who do not meet the above criteria can still buy takeaway food,” it added.
Unvaccinated people will also not be allowed to enter shopping malls or large standalone stores from Wednesday. Large standalone supermarkets are exempted.
MOH said businesses that are able to implement the new rules earlier than Wednesday are strongly encouraged to do so.
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nayr69sg

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Those unvaccinated against Covid-19 can no longer eat at hawker centres, enter malls, from Oct 13​

The Ministry of Health said that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.


The Ministry of Health said that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.

PHOTO: ST FILE
adelinetan.png


Adeline Tan

Oct 9, 2021

SINGAPORE - Unvaccinated individuals will no longer be able to dine in, go to shopping malls, hawker centres and coffee shops, or visit attractions from next Wednesday (Oct 13).
However, unvaccinated children who are 12 years old or below can still do so.
The Ministry of Health said on Saturday (Oct 9) that this is a move to protect unvaccinated individuals in the community and to reduce the strain on the healthcare system.
Those who have recovered from Covid-19, or have a valid negative pre-event test result, are also considered fully vaccinated.
Speaking at a press conference by the multi-ministry task force tackling Covid-19 on Saturday (Oct 9), Minister for Trade and Industry Gan Kim Yong said: “There have been a few settings frequently visited by a significant proportion of infected individuals, including those who are unvaccinated, who later on fell very ill.”
He added that such settings include food and beverage (F&B) outlets, retail establishments and shopping centres.

Currently, those who are unvaccinated can dine in at hawker centres and coffee shops. They will no longer be allowed to do so under the new rules kicking in on Wednesday.
Instead, groups of up to only two fully vaccinated people will be allowed to dine in at hawker centres or coffee shops, as well as F&B establishments, MOH said.
Unvaccinated in S'pore? You no longer can eat at hawker centres, enter malls | THE BIG STORY

“Individuals who do not meet the above criteria can still buy takeaway food,” it added.
Unvaccinated people will also not be allowed to enter shopping malls or large standalone stores from Wednesday. Large standalone supermarkets are exempted.
MOH said businesses that are able to implement the new rules earlier than Wednesday are strongly encouraged to do so.
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Agree. This restriction is to protect the unvaccinated.

The vaccine strategy no longer works on preventing spread of covid 19 delta variant. It works as a prophylactic agent to reduce morbidity and mortality in people who encounter the virus. Note that delta variant is endemic now and extremely transmissible.

If you have not been pre treated with the vaccine you will get very sick when exposed to the virus.

Hence if one chooses not to be pre treated they should take all measures to avoid social contact and proximity with the population.
 
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