foreign talent is needed

[Manager]

because my company need web developers and you singaporean cant do the job, infact of the many who applied for the job, only one is a singaporean and he wasnt good enough.. you Singaporean simply cannot do programming. NUS and NTU dont have good lecturers for programming course? what a shame

 

[batman1]

So sad,so u need Foreign Lan Cheow or Foreign Chee Bye ?

 

[Manager]

i dont need foreign talent if singaporean can do the job, matter of fact is, they cant. like i said , singaporean are not good enough and they dont even dare to apply for the job.

and fuck the government, wanna increase the levy to 450 per month for s pass holder. if Singaporean can do the job, we dont have to look for foreign talent.

So sad,so u need Foreign Lan Cheow or Foreign Chee Bye ?

 

[youtalkcock]

i dont need foreign talent if singaporean can do the job, matter of fact is, they cant. like i said , singaporean are not good enough and they dont even dare to apply for the job.

and fuck the government, wanna increase the levy to 450 per month for s pass holder. if Singaporean can do the job, we dont have to look for foreign talent.

Do you also have a clone that is Supervisor / HR Manager / Towkay?

 

[Manager]

yes, i have clones like many here, but Supervisor / HR Manager / Towkay are not mine.

Do you also have a clone that is Supervisor / HR Manager / Towkay?

 

[batman1]

i dont need foreign talent if singaporean can do the job, matter of fact is, they cant. like i said , singaporean are not good enough and they dont even dare to apply for the job.

and fuck the government, wanna increase the levy to 450 per month for s pass holder. if Singaporean can do the job, we dont have to look for foreign talent.

What happend to our so-called 1st class education in the world ?
What are your motivations for saying that singapore's education system is a failure ?
Can u give us a good blow-by-blow account of how u go about recruiting your required staff so that the people of singapore can assess your HR policies and practices as practised by your esteemed company ?

 

[Manager]

i am not saying that.. i was questioning it..

over 100 applicants and only 1 singaporean applied for the job says alot.
you could do the advertising and easily justified what i have just said..

What happend to our so-called 1st class education in the world ?
What are your motivations for saying that singapore's education system is a failure ?
Can u give us a good clarification to the people of singapore ?

 

[batman1]

i am not saying that.. i was questioning it..

over 100 applicants and only 1 singaporean applied for the job says alot.
you could do the advertising and easily justified what i have just said..

Do u know that there are many Singaporean IT professionals driving taxis ?
Do u your esteemed company in Singapore practised ageism in the HR practices of recruitment and selection ?
Do u esteemed company in Singapore recruit a employee based on the lowest remuneration ?

 

[Manager]

i think you should read my posts again..if we have a choice we would like to take in singaporean, however there was only 1 singaporean applicant among the more than 100 applicants who applied and the reason we didnt take him was because he wasnt good enough. nothing to do with ageism and the remuneration package.. infact he was asking for lower than what some of the FT is asking...

Do u know that there are many Singaporean IT professionals driving taxis ?
Do u your esteemed company in Singapore practised ageism in the HR practices of recruitment and selection ?
Do u esteemed company in Singapore recruit a employee based on the lowest remuneration ?

 

[fastspawn]

How much were you offering? Did you have no choice or no choice at the price you could afford?
The problem with the economic situation nowadays is that FT take up "skilled" technical jobs that pay between 2.5-5K/month, the best Singaporeans (that could have potentially done the skilled "technical" jobs) take up banking, management, trading roles that pay 8K-10K/month, and the less skilled Singaporeans find themselves out of jobs.

If there were proper controls in place (for example the H1B Visas that US implements) - what you will find is that the cost of hiring a skilled worker will increase, creating incentive for Singaporeans to take up skilled roles instead of roles in banking, management, law etc.

As it stands the top engineers in Singapore earn maybe 600K/year which is a vast disparity from the top lawyers/doctors who earn high above 3M.

 

[Manager]

We once place an advertise on the paper and the internet for a web developer with a salary range of 3k-5K , there were NO Singaporean who applied for the job.
and at another time, we didnt state any salary range and only got 1 singaporean who applied for the job..

my point is, many singaporeans are just not up to the mark. there are not enough good web developers around.

of course this only apply to certain positions, and web developer is one of them.. there is a lack of capabale singaporean doing it.
the same cannot apply for engineers, we have alot of them around..

How much were you offering? Did you have no choice or no choice at the price you could afford?
The problem with the economic situation nowadays is that FT take up "skilled" technical jobs that pay between 2.5-5K/month, the best Singaporeans (that could have potentially done the skilled "technical" jobs) take up banking, management, trading roles that pay 8K-10K/month, and the less skilled Singaporeans find themselves out of jobs.

If there were proper controls in place (for example the H1B Visas that US implements) - what you will find is that the cost of hiring a skilled worker will increase, creating incentive for Singaporeans to take up skilled roles instead of roles in banking, management, law etc.

As it stands the top engineers in Singapore earn maybe 600K/year which is a vast disparity from the top lawyers/doctors who earn high above 3M.

 

[ivebert]

We once place an advertise on the paper and the internet for a web developer with a salary range of 3k-5K , there were NO Singaporean who applied for the job.
and at another time, we didnt state any salary range and only got 1 singaporean who applied for the job..

my point is, many singaporeans are just not up to the mark. there are not enough good web developers around.

of course this only apply to certain positions, and web developer is one of them.. there is a lack of capabale singaporean doing it.
the same cannot apply for engineers, we have alot of them around..

You seriously need to get sacked

Just go count how many Computing grads there are from nus & ntu

That's why you need more Indians
They are good at it and look at the size of their country.

 

[Manager]

honestly i dont understand what is the point you are trying to put across?

if you think all foreigner are good, then you are very wrong, we have sent many of them back because they cannot deliver. problem is we wont know whether they can deliver until we rope them in. some of them failed because they couldnt adopt to the new envoirnment/culture, while others were simply not good enough..just like those singaporean we have..

You seriously need to get sacked

Just go count how many Computing grads there are from nus & ntu

That's why you need more Indians
They are good at it and look at the size of their country.

 

[Bigfuck]

honestly i dont understand what is the point you are trying to put across?

if you think all foreigner are good, then you are very wrong, we have sent many of them back because they cannot deliver. problem is we wont know whether they can deliver until we rope them in. some of them failed because they couldnt adopt to the new envoirnment/culture, while others were simply not good enough..just like those singaporean we have..

You are totally right. Education in Singapore has been highjacked for political control and stupefaction of the masses. Education in Singapore is made to suck as the ruling few hate people smarter than them and become a potential threat. To make statements saying teaching too much is a waste of resources and they may leave Singapore is the pure representation of selfish and evil mind of those who impose such a system. I remember them saying something like this many years ago.
Singapore has talent and potential but you unfortunately need to invest time training them The schools in Singapore are a utter waste of time and money.

 

[gohsanho]

i dont need foreign talent if singaporean can do the job, matter of fact is, they cant. like i said , singaporean are not good enough and they dont even dare to apply for the job.

and fuck the government, wanna increase the levy to 450 per month for s pass holder. if Singaporean can do the job, we dont have to look for foreign talent.

If you are looking for cheap talent I would suggest you move to china, india, vietnam, etc. SG is no more a cheap place to do business unless the type of business can sustain the type of salary expected here. SG is not lack of talent. Like the chinese saying goes: If you pay the right price you can even get the ghost to work for you. Companies here are not looking for talent they are looking for CHEAP talent which unfortunately are not widely available in SG.

 

[Manager]

So 5k per month is cheap talent? Ok I now see why you guy can't compete with the foreigners. You don't even bother to read all the post before you come in and shoot.

If you are looking for cheap talent I would suggest you move to china, india, vietnam, etc. SG is no more a cheap place to do business unless the type of business can sustain the type of salary expected here. SG is not lack of talent. Like the chinese saying goes: If you pay the right price you can even get the ghost to work for you. Companies here are not looking for talent they are looking for CHEAP talent which unfortunately are not widely available in SG.

 

[gohsanho]

Sorry Mgr not referring to your case in particular, was referring to call by some companies requesting for cheap talent.