Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia?

[theDoors]

I suspect there is a linkage between between increasing water resource holding capacity for self sufficiency and the current floods.

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

Singapore has sufficient water supply, will not need to renew water contract with Malaysia in 2011

Minister for Enviroment and Water Resources Yaacob Ibrahim has reiterated that Singapore will not renew its water contract with Malaysia when it expires in 2011.

This is one of the two water contracts the Republic has with Malaysia.

The second agreement expires in 2061.

Dr Yaacob reassured Parliament that Singapore would have an adequate water supply.

" We have augmented our local catchments with the Marina, Punggol and Serangoon reservoirs. Singapore's water catchement area will increase from half to two thirds of our land area, when these 3 reservoirs are completed by 2011. New water supply is also being ramped up concurrently. With the completion of the new water plant in Changi in 2010, new water will be able to meet 30 percent of Singapore's water needs. In addition the desalination plants completed in 2005 can further meet about 10 percent of Singapore's water needs. "

-- 938Live

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

Johor To Stop Selling Water To Singapore From Skudai Plant Next Year
Bernama.com, 27 Apr 2010

JOHOR BAHARU, April 27 (Bernama) -- Johor will stop the sale of raw water to Singapore from the Skudai water treatment plant here upon the expiry of the related agreement next year, Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman said.
"Negotiations are underway to return (the Skudai plant to the state government)," he told reporters at a news conference in conjunction with the visit by Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin to the customs, immigration and quarantine complex here.

I suspect this was the day the holding capacity was being rammed up.

 

[Alamaking]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

What kind of reason is this? LOL

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

What kind of reason is this? LOL

Techniques discredited by academics. But often used to piece together conspiracy theories.

 

[Ramseth]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

Techniques discredited by academics. But often used to piece together conspiracy theories.

Techniques are what academics use to dismantle conspiracy theories.

 

[longbow]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

These are all costs that must be factored into not signing water agreement.

 

[johnny333]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

These are all costs that must be factored into not signing water agreement.

It's all part of the cost of importing millions of foreigner workers. These extra millions are putting a strain on Spore infrastructure e.g. water supply

Sporeans are paying the price and NOT the PAP, yet. We'll see if Sporeans are ready to vote against the PAP

 

[pocoyo]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

I suspect there is a linkage between between increasing water resource holding capacity for self sufficiency and the current floods.

Hi. You don't have to suspect. PAP actually already admitted it.

"Tan Nguan Sen, director of Catchment & Waterways, PUB, said: "The Marina reservoir was built for two main functions. One is to act as storage for fresh water, and the other one is for flood control purposes. For flood control purposes we want to keep the reservoir as low as possible, whereas as a storage for fresh water we want to keep it as high as possible."

I believe after they cease one of the water contract with M'sia, they are trying to keep the rain water so much so that some of the places will be flooded as a result.

This may also be the reason why they now keep telling you that "Singapore is impossible to be flood free.." since they already anticipated the outcome.

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

Hi. You don't have to suspect. PAP actually already admitted it.

"Tan Nguan Sen, director of Catchment & Waterways, PUB, said: "The Marina reservoir was built for two main functions. One is to act as storage for fresh water, and the other one is for flood control purposes. For flood control purposes we want to keep the reservoir as low as possible, whereas as a storage for fresh water we want to keep it as high as possible."

I believe after they cease one of the water contract with M'sia, they are trying to keep the rain water so much so that some of the places will be flooded as a result.

This may also be the reason why they now keep telling you that "Singapore is impossible to be flood free.." since they already anticipated the outcome.

So you think it's cheaper to pay higher price for water, or have floods now and then?

 

[pocoyo]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

So you think it's cheaper to pay higher price for water, or have floods now and then?

Do we pay higher price for the m'sia water? I don't know.

Maybe you should also ask: Will it be higher price by producing and supplying the water by ourselves?

Flood is only part of it which comes in price of property and maybe lives as it may happen.

Other than that, we have to recycle the sai-chwee and process some of the sea water. All these will come in great price too.

The best part is, no one at ground level know whether the sai-chwee is safe to drink and what are the long-term effects it may bring after consuming it. Do you?

So which is higher price? I think PAP should know it best.

My personal impression of this water contract thing, is more like a personal decision for the PAP rather than for the nation. You can say it's more like a pride thingy..face saving.

To me, it's just a repetition of the incident whereby SG was parted with M'sia.

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

Do we pay higher price for the m'sia water? I don't know.

Maybe you should also ask: Will it be higher price by producing and supplying the water by ourselves?

Flood is only part of it which comes in price of property and maybe lives as it may happen.

Other than that, we have to recycle the sai-chwee and process some of the sea water. All these will come in great price too.

The best part is, no one at ground level know whether the sai-chwee is safe to drink and what are the long-term effects it may bring after consuming it. Do you?

So which is higher price? I think PAP should know it best.

My personal impression of this water contract thing, is more like a personal decision for the PAP rather than for the nation. You can say it's more like a pride thingy..face saving.

To me, it's just a repetition of the incident whereby SG was parted with M'sia.

I agree with you. "Face" is the issue at stake. I suspect this is one of PM Lee's pet project. He wants to tell the world especially Malaysia, Singapore can be self sufficient in water.

 

[pocoyo]

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I agree with you. "Face" is the issue at stake. I suspect this is one of PM Lee's pet project. He wants to tell the world especially Malaysia, Singapore can be self sufficient in water.

Yeah..this oldman has an extremely high self-esteem. I think you can see all the decisions that he has made concerning the country always base on his personal pride and maybe benefits. And always the peasants but not him or his ah loong son have to pay the price for it.

I do hope his water project is going to work out if I were to remain in SG for the rest of my life. Coz this oldman has a proven track record of making WRONG decision like the "Two Is Enough" thing in the past.

 

[shelltox]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

last time malaysia refused to sell us water and kota tinggi got flooded,
now we refused to buy water from them and we get flooded.
What is God up to

 

[theDoors]

Re: Floods is the price Singapore paid for not renewing water contracts with Malaysia

last time malaysia refused to sell us water and kota tinggi got flooded,
now we refused to buy water from them and we get flooded.
What is God up to

By invoking act of god, it absolves compensation liabilities issues.