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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/business/12plane.html

Cost of F-35 Has Risen 60% to 90%, Military Says
By CHRISTOPHER DREW
Published: March 11, 2010


The projected cost of Lockheed Martin’s new Joint Strike Fighter has increased 60 to 90 percent in real terms since 2001, blowing well past a level requiring the program to be revamped, Pentagon officials said Thursday.
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And even though the military is trying to deal with the problems, Congressional auditors said the program — the Pentagon’s largest — was likely to continue to increase in cost and suffer more delays.

The assessments, released at a Senate hearing in Washington, provided a reminder of the extent of the cost overruns in major weapons programs and showed how hard they can be to resolve.

The latest estimates were embarrassing to Lockheed Martin, the largest military contractor, and to the defense secretary, Robert M. Gates.

Last summer, Mr. Gates promoted the new jet, called the F-35, when he urged Congress to halt production of the F-22 fighter plane. Some senators now say they might not have made that decision if they had known about the problems with the F-35.

Christine H. Fox, the Pentagon’s top cost evaluator, said at Thursday’s hearing that the estimated price of each F-35 had jumped to $80 million to $95 million, as measured in 2002 dollars, from $50 million when Lockheed Martin was awarded the contract in 2001.

She said her office was still refining the cost estimate, which equals $95 million to $113 million for each plane in current dollars.

Under a 15-year-old law, the Pentagon has to notify Congress when the cost of military equipment exceeds the original projection by more than 25 percent.

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Australian Think-Tank Aus Air Power simulated an air war between US & PRC using F-35 & Russian SU-35 jets, F-35 was killed at 7:1 ratio by Chinese!

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http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-04/03/content_13293437.htm

澳媒狂想2018中美南海空战
2010年04月03日 09:54:12  来源:环球时报
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* 本网聚焦:F-35,凭啥涨价?
* 美国杂志狂想中美"太空战"

“2018年,中美空军在南海上空发生激战,拥有苏-35战斗机的中国空军击溃了美军的F-35和F/A-18E/F“超级大黄蜂”机群,取得7:1的巨大胜利……”这段描写出自澳大利亚《空中力量》3月30日刊登的“2018年:中美南海对决”一文,作者卡洛□库普之前发表过多篇涉及中国军力的文章,声称中国空军现代化已威胁到美国及其盟友的战略安全,强调非F-22不足以克制中国新一代战机。

“南海滑铁卢”

“2018年,南中国海,北纬16度,东经114度,美海军‘里根’号航母战斗群 4架F-35C战斗机正在掩护另外4架F/A-18E/F‘超级大黄蜂’战机向永兴岛逼近。”在文章开头,卡洛□库普用“某国”暗指中国,营造了火药味十足的场面:“某国”加紧开采南海油气田,并在永兴岛派驻重兵,封锁南海航路,美国因此决心用武力驱逐永兴岛军队。

紧接着,库普又用虚构的“美国飞行员查尔斯□布朗上尉”之口,讲述了中国空军是如何让美军遭遇“南海滑铁卢”的——

刚开始,F-35机群的机载雷达发现敌方4架俄制苏-35战斗机已从永兴岛起飞,意图拦截美军。但美军飞行员势在必得,因为每架F-35C都配备4枚AIM-120D先进中程空空导弹以及机载光电分布式孔径系统,能让飞行员与多个目标同时作战,有效躲避导弹。大家想当然地打算凭借隐身以及超视距作战能力,按照“首先发现,首先射击,首先摧毁”的简单程序,来个“空中猎火鸡”比赛。他们甚至轻松地想起了军机制造商的广告词:“机动规避无所谓,只要你让导弹转个弯。”

然而,战斗没有像“布朗上尉”预想的那样发展。当苏-35战斗机到达60海里开外时,F-35C战斗机向每架苏-35发射了两枚导弹,以确保“完全杀伤”。经过“短暂而漫长”的等待,F-35战机上的电子战系统显示,仅有一架苏-35被击中。美国人的好运也至此到头了,机动性超群的苏-35躲开其他导弹,以2.25马赫的速度冲刺,将双方的距离迅速缩短至40海里,3架苏-35向美军集群打出12枚R-77主动雷达制导空空导弹,这下子美国人慌了手脚,一些人猛开加力燃烧室,试图用大角度转弯以摆脱导弹追踪,同时拼命释放诱饵弹,可是R-77导弹根本不吃这一套,毫不留情地撕碎了4架F-35C,连带将负责对地攻击的“超级大黄蜂”干掉3架,至此中美空战以“1:7”的惊人战损比结束。战机碎片插入“查尔斯□布朗上尉”体内,他忍着剧痛启动跳伞装置。

美军遭遇 “南海滑铁卢”。

  F-35除了隐身,什么都不行

作为长期研究制空作战的专家,卡洛□库普的名气随着一系列有关解放军现代化以及批评美国停产F-22战斗机的文章而被中国读者熟悉。这篇耸动的“2018中美南海空战”文章,与其说是制造“中国空军威胁论”,倒不如说是卡洛□库普用来阻止澳大利亚皇家空军继续采购F-35C飞机的“战斗檄文”。据悉,澳空军已意识到自己要采购的100余架F-35C战斗机无法在高强度冲突中生存。


文章强调,随着中国和俄罗斯反隐身技术的发展,西方新一代战机的生存不仅取决于隐身能力,还要包括速度、高度、通过高偏转速率机动来规避各种导弹、利用隐身与电子战装备干扰地对空导弹能力等,“遗憾的是,对于未来10年列装美国及其盟友的F-35系列战机来说,由于缺乏类似F-22‘猛禽’战机那样的高空渗透与超音速巡航能力,它们只能完全依赖其隐身性能与电子对抗装置实现自保,这在战场上是远远不够的”。

卡洛□库普指出,隐身一旦失效,1.5马赫空速的F-35战机根本无法与2.25马赫空速的苏-35S战机在近距离作战。而且,俄罗斯正积极开发波长为 24-30厘米的L波段大功率雷达,能发现并跟踪锁定70海里范围内0.01平方米的目标,而中国也在进行类似努力,特别是其新服役的空警-2000与空警-200预警机似乎就工作在L波段,目的也是针对隐身机群,再加上中俄大力建设“网络中心战”性质的一整套C4ISR情报作战与指挥管制系统,美国及其盟友即将列装的大批F-35战机隐身性将大打折扣。“凭借隐身性能、超视距作战,西方空军在1991年至2003年打赢了多场非对称战争,但是这种情景在未来不会重现。”

在文章结尾,卡洛□库普道出了自己写这篇文章的真实意图:为了应对中国和俄罗斯空军的快速现代化,美国有必要考虑其冻结F-22装备规模的决定,并重新审视向亲密盟国出售F-22战机的可能性。

  臆测“中美战争”有企图

近来西方智库不断推出花样翻新的“中美战争”,关于中国向南海、马六甲海峡、“第二岛链”甚至印度洋扩张势力而遭美国军事抵制的“新剧本”也不断涌现,而这些军事冲突又多以中国获胜结束,成为“中国威胁论”的宣传材料。

一位曾参与翻译前美国国防部长温伯格名著《下一场战争》的香港军事观察家介绍,西方智库为了推销自己,开始效仿小说家的套路,将过去依靠调查报告、论文、数据以及图表来表达的防务观点,改以大众喜闻乐见的故事形式进行推介,这中间少了逻辑缜密的主要数据模型演算和兵棋推演,却多了真实的国际斗争场景以及近乎实战的故事情节,无形中吸引了眼球,使之更容易被公众乃至军方接受。例如美国兰德公司在2007年发表“深入龙潭:中国的反介入战略及其对美国的影响”一文,这篇洋洋洒洒几万字的“故事性报告”重点提及多个“有助于抵御中国大陆攻击的先进武器”,后来都成为美国军火商向美台军方推销的“软性广告”。(陈肇祥/《环球时报》2010年04月02日第08版)
 
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html

Lockheed-Martin F-35 Lightning II
Joint Strike Fighter

Assessing the Joint Strike Fighter

Technical Report APA-TR-2007-0102

by Dr Carlo Kopp, SMAIAA, MIEEE, PEng
January, 2007
Text, Line Art © 2004, 2007 Carlo Kopp



First flight of SDD JSF Prototype AA-1 in December, 2006. This aircraft is a 'non-representative prototype' which predates in construction a series of structural and systems weight reduction measures. The aircraft is equipped with a dummy EOTS fairing under the nose (Imagery via Air Force Link).

"Given what is known about both the JSF and F-22A, Department of Defence assertions claiming 'the really big difference is in cost' are little more than nonsense."


Background

In late 2003 testimony to the Joint Standing Committee of Federal Parliament on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade the Canberra Defence Department leadership asserted that the 'the really big difference [between the F-22A and Joint Strike Fighter] is in cost'. This remarkable statement, and others of a similar ilk, explains much of the euphoria surrounding the Joint Strike Fighter in Defence leadership circles - the Joint Strike Fighter is incorrectly perceived to be a 'single engine F-22A clone'. Given the design aims, development histories and characteristics of these aircraft, this belief is not supportable by available evidence.

This analysis will delve deeper into the differences between the JSF and its more capable generational sibling, the F-22A Raptor, and explore recent developments in the JSF program, with the aim of separating myth from fact.
This analysis is an updated and expanded version of the original 2004 analysis

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Australian Think-Tank Aus Air Power simulated an air war between US & PRC using F-35 & Russian SU-35 jets, F-35 was killed at 7:1 ratio by Chinese!

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The RSAF is considering getting 100 of these aircraft. If that happens it'll be another white elephant we'll get to see on National Day :rolleyes:
 
The RSAF is considering getting 100 of these aircraft. If that happens it'll be another white elephant we'll get to see on National Day :rolleyes:

Lee Kuan Yew have absolutely no qualm to sponsor the dying US economy using our CPF savings. You should have no doubt about this. Ang Moh is LKY's god, we are just slaves.
 
Lee Kuan Yew have absolutely no qualm to sponsor the dying US economy using our CPF savings. You should have no doubt about this. Ang Moh is LKY's god, we are just slaves.

I have no doubts that LKY would sell Spore & Sporeans to the Angmo, Indians, Chinese,...

CPF is a levy on ALL working Sporeans, TV/radio licence is a household tax

If anyone has any doubts just look at how crowded Spore is with foreigners.
 
Each plane cost US$100million. Adding another $100m for maintenance/operation cost/logistic........for another 15~20 year life span.
Why waste tax payer money?
 
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