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F-35 a useless junk! Putin's SU-35 repeatedly kicked Jews IDF Ass in Syria, if SU-57 used would wipe out F-35!

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俄以空中对峙,苏35多次成功拦截F35,以色列空袭行动遇上麻烦了
2019-09-29 04:15

叙利亚战争处于一个非常复杂的局面,在叙以之间的冲突中,俄方表示中立态度,有人对此怀疑俄罗斯的军事实力,认为以色列一再发动空袭行动没有受到俄军的拦截属于俄军无能,甚至许多人产生了俄军好欺负的印象,甚至有人叫喊:苏35遭遇F35只能被吊着打。

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苏35

这里认为苏35远不及F35的言论,传播的还是相当广的,以至于人们形成了苏35无法与五代机对抗的印象,从实际情况来说,谁说苏35遭遇F35只能被吊着打?

根据2019年初的报道,已经发生了俄以战机空中对峙,苏35多次成功拦截F35,逼迫以色列方面放弃了攻击行动,其中在9月9日,当以军的F35战机进入叙利亚境内执行空袭任务,俄驻叙战机接到了紧急命令,苏35战斗机起飞赶往现场。

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S300

虽然都没有公布这次相关空中对峙的过程,只有结果:以军的F35撤退了,放弃了攻击行动,有人因此认为,这是F35战机首次因其他型号战机的拦截放弃了攻击行动。

这个事情最大的意义在于,俄军苏35实战拦截力证打隐身战机不难。也许以色列不愿意与俄军发生正面的冲突,禁止让F35与苏35进行什么争斗,但是这个事件表明以色列空袭行动遇上麻烦了。

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F35

这些行动中苏35战机能够对F35实施拦截,至少说明一定的问题,俄军已经找到了一个发现隐身战机的方法,可以对以军战机的行踪进行跟踪,否则的话苏35不可能知道F35的大致方向,也就无法进行拦截!

即便俄军指挥系统对F35的定位不是精确,但是对于苏35来说不算问题,只要知道一个大概方位来说就好办了,原因就在于苏35想发现F35什么目标不一定依赖于雷达,其安装的红外光电系统可以解决问题。

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F35

俄式战机从多年以前就开始将红外光电探测系统列为标配系统,到现在已经发展了数代,苏35更安装了最新一代产品,实战效果表明它可以有效的发现各种目标,包括:隐身目标。在2019年时,俄罗斯方面就发布了苏35战机成功锁定F22战机的照片,B52也一样被发现过,这次发现F35也算不上什么意外。

也就是说从技术角度上,俄军已经找到了对抗隐身战机的办法,不再具备以前想象的单方面战场透明优势,F35想占便宜,搞什么突然偷袭之类的事情已经不可能了。

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苏35

也许有人会认为,即便没有隐身优势,F35战机也一样可以对苏35构成优势,可惜只是一种梦想,因为苏35在设计当中可是完全针对于格斗,强调制空作战的型号,试图与它进行格斗占便宜,绝对不是一件容易的事情啊。

如今苏35正以实际行动证明自己的价值,F35已经面临着一个真正意义上的对手,这也许不能证明谁胜谁负,但是至少证明F35不占据什么优势。返回搜狐,查看更多


Russia confronted the air in the air, and Su 35 successfully intercepted the F35. The Israeli air strikes were in trouble.
2019-09-29 04:15

The Syrian war is in a very complicated situation. In the conflict between Syria and Israel, the Russian side expressed a neutral attitude. Some people doubted Russia’s military strength and believed that Israel’s repeated air strikes were not intercepted by the Russian army and belonged to the Russian army. Even many people have the impression that the Russian army is bullied, and some even yell: Su 35 can only be hung by the F35.

Su 35

Here, the Su 35 is far less than the F35's remarks, and the spread is still quite wide, so that people have formed the impression that the Su 35 can't compete with the fifth-generation machine. From the actual situation, who said that the Su 35 encounters the F35 can only be hung ?

According to reports in early 2019, the Russian-Israeli warplanes have been confronted in the air. Su 35 successfully intercepted the F35 and forced the Israeli side to abandon the attack. On September 9, when the Israeli F35 entered the Syrian territory to carry out air strike missions. The Russian military in Syria received an urgent order, and the Su 35 fighter took off and rushed to the scene.

S300

Although the process of the relevant air confrontation was not announced, only the result: the F35 of the Israeli army retreated and gave up the attack. Some people therefore believe that this is the first time that the F35 fighters abandoned the attack because of the interception of other types of fighters.

The biggest significance of this matter is that it is not difficult for the Russian military Su 35 to intercept the power of the stealth fighter. Perhaps Israel is not willing to have a positive conflict with the Russian army, and it is forbidden to let the F35 fight with the Su 35, but this incident shows that the Israeli air strikes are in trouble.

F35

In these operations, the Su-35 fighter can intercept the F35, at least to explain certain problems. The Russian army has found a way to discover stealth fighters, which can track the whereabouts of the Israeli warplanes. Otherwise, it is impossible for the Su35 to know the generality of the F35. Direction, you can't intercept!

Even if the Russian military command system is not accurate on the F35, it is not a problem for the Su35. As long as you know a general position, it is easy to do. The reason is that the Su35 wants to find out what the F35 does not necessarily depend on the radar. Its installed infrared photoelectric system can solve the problem.

F35

Russian warplanes have been listed as standard systems since many years ago. Now, several generations have been developed. The Su 35 has installed the latest generation of products. The actual results show that it can effectively find various targets, including: Stealth goal. In 2019, the Russian side released a photo of the Su35 fighter successfully locking the F22 fighter. B52 was also discovered. This time, the F35 was not an accident.

That is to say, from a technical point of view, the Russian military has found a way to fight stealth fighters. It no longer has the unilateral battlefield transparency advantage that was previously imagined. F35 wants to take advantage of it, and it is impossible to do something like a sudden sneak attack.

Su 35

Some people may think that even if there is no stealth advantage, the F35 fighter can also have an advantage for the Su 35. Unfortunately, it is only a dream, because the Su 35 is completely aimed at fighting in the design, emphasizing the model of air combat, trying to carry out with it. Fighting for cheap is definitely not an easy task.

Now that the Su 35 is demonstrating its value with practical actions, the F35 has already faced a real opponent. This may not prove who wins or loses, but at least proves that the F35 does not occupy any advantage. Go back to Sohu and see more
 
The Israelis never switch on the cloaking function of their f35 ?
 
And the source is PLA commie blog?

The same PLA that never won a war in the last 40 years. And chickened out against stinking Ah Nehs in Doklam in 2017?

Is that the infamous China speed at work?

So fast, so rapid that after 40 years still don't dare to touch stinking Ah Nehs, a bunch of Ah Nehs that are also less numerous than Chinks?
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If the Russkies could intercept F35 with their bulky high RCS Su-35, why do they need Su-57 for?

And why is it that their long time customer ah Nehs have abandoned Su-57 Pak-FA project after sinking in money?


Russkies had better shoot down some F35 and F22 to prove their words.

Iran brought down stealth low observable RQ-170 and reverse engineered to produce Shahed 171 Simorgh UCAV.





so far it's been Iran 1 - Russkies 0 - chinks 0
 
USAF US NANY MARINES etc and ALL the suckers allies and customers 8ncluding RSAF ARE ALL FUCKED!

GAME-OVER for so called STEALTH!

DEAD MEAT! Totally Handicapped!

Chow Ang Moh NAIVE DREAM of STEALTH. Compromised EVERY BASIC FUNDAMENTAL PERFORMANCE FACTORS FOR STEALTH.

  • Speed
  • Range
  • Ceiling Altitude
  • Combat Pay-load
  • Manoeuvrability
All Compromised for stupid STEALTH, and COST A HUGE BOMB. plus LOONG TROUBLED DEVELOPMENT CYCLE. Ended up = NON-STEALTH any ways! MAGA!


F-35 F-22 etc, as an overall strategy, rely on idea of SELF-DECEPTION STEALTH alike the Emporer's Invisible Cloak. Which is a MYTH and everyone can see him NAKED! It can not flee fast nor high nor far nor carry heavy huge out of ammunition to save itself once LOCKED by anti-stealth radars.

Tiny internal weapon bay smaller and much more INFERIOR AGAINST Russian SU-57 and Chinese J-20. That F-35 cannot hang ammunition under their wings or else became AUTOMATICALLY NON-STEALTH! Yes! Exposed by ammunition which are visible to normal radars. Cannot see F-35 also can see the bunch of non-stealth ammunition! == Cannot see yr face also can see your ass hence knows where the fuck you are!

F-35 fell off the sky in USA and Japan, pilots past out in cockpit due to LACK OF OXYGEN. Everything else Aldo fucked up and fail including latest most Expensive Useless Ronald Reagan Aircraft Carrier Electrical Catapult FAILED to launch F-35C. Dotard ordered to go BACKWARDS TO WW2 STEAM Catapults!




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...ships/amp27632779/trump-navy-steam-catapults/




Trump Tells U.S. Navy to Go Back to Steam Catapults
"We don't need that extra speed," the President said of the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System.
By Kyle Mizokami
May 30, 2019
The aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) conducts flight operations

U.S. NAVY PHOTO BY MASS COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST 3RD CLASS GRANT G. GRADY
Earlier this week, President Trump continued to press his attack on a U.S. Navy system that uses magnetism to launch aircraft from aircraft carriers. At an event on a Japan-based navy warship, Trump reiterated his claim that the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, or EMALS, is inferior to the use of steam catapults to get airplanes in the air.
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Since 1950, aircraft carriers have used steam-powered catapults to launch aircraft. Steam is diverted from the ship’s boilers—steam boilers powered by the ship’s nuclear reactors—and piped up to just under the flight deck, where it is held and pressurized in special tanks. In the meantime, the front landing gear of a carrier aircraft is loaded onto a small, plate-sized shuttle. When the aircraft is ready for launch, the steam is suddenly released and, in a burst of power, accelerates the shuttle—and attached aircraft—down the flight deck to takeoff speeds.
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But the EMALS system is fundamentally different. Instead of steam, it uses magnetism and electricity to move the shuttle. In the moments leading up to and during a launch, EMALS stores and releases enough juice to power 12,000 homes in three seconds.
Nuclear-powered aircraft carriers already produce copious amounts of electricity, so that isn’t a problem. Proponents claim the system can launch more aircraft in less time than a steam-driven system, can be fine-tuned to accommodate lighter aircraft (like drones), and is cheaper to operate.
Unfortunately, EMALS has run into serious developmental issues that weren’t worked out before the system went from land-based trials to installation on the new USS Gerald R. Ford. EMALS, along with several other advanced technologies, delayed the introduction of Ford to the fleet by approximately three years.
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The latest news is that the launch system, which recently underwent 747 test launches, experienced 10 critical failures during that time—far below the 4,166 mean time between failures expected of the system—and is unlikely to ever meet that standard of reliability.

USS Ford during sea trials, 2017.
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Trump has latched onto the EMALS issue and repeats it every time he gets near the U.S. Navy. In May 2017, Trump visited the USS Ford and said:
"You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we're going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology]. I said you don't use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, "Ah, how is it working?" "Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn't have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam's going all over the place, there's planes thrown in the air." It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it's very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–"Sir, we're staying with digital." I said no you're not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it's no good."
Now, at the recent stop in Japan, Trump said he would order the Navy to go back to steam. As reported by Military.com, Trump, after claiming to have talked to “the catapult people”, told an audience of sailors and Marines, "I'm just going to put out an order—we're going to use steam. We don't need that extra speed."
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It is unclear what Trump means by “extra speed”—in 2017, he claimed a sailor told him the EMALS system “doesn’t have the power.” Trump then said, "We want to go with steam. They're always coming up with new ideas. They're making planes so complex you can't fly them. We all want innovation, but it's too much. There's never been anything like the steam catapults."
It's unclear how the complexity of aircraft relates to catapults.

Trump boarding the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp, Yokosuka Japan.
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It’s also unclear what prompted the verbal barrage on EMALS. Trump was speaking from the USS Wasp, an amphibious assault ship that does not have an aircraft catapult launch system.
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Ordering the U.S. Navy to go back to steam catapults would be an unwise decision. First, it’s not clear if Trump thinks that the engineering change should include the first ship to use them, Ford.
While that would be unreasonable on the surface, it would also be an expensive technical nightmare to physically remove the catapults and electrical cabling running from the reactors to the flight deck, then install steam-powered catapults and the insulated piping to deliver the steam.
Furthermore, EMALS is also physically smaller than steam-driven catapults, and good luck figuring out how to make the steam replacement fit.
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The bow of USS John F. Kennedy being lifted into place, 2018. Kennedy is due to be christened in late 2019.
U.S. NAVY PHOTO COURTESY OF HUNTINGTON INGALLS INDUSTRIES BY JOHN WHALEN
Could the Navy go back to steam for other Ford-class carriers currently under construction? It may already be too late for USS John F. Kennedy, the second ship in class, which recently had its 555 ton island installed. Installing it on USS Enterprise is theoretically possible, but would delay introduction of the boat as engineers grappled with the task of rejiggering the ship’s innards, a project that would certainly cost hundreds of millions—or even billions of dollars.
By that time, permanent fixes for EMALS’ reliability fixes could be available, rendering the whole conversion a moot point.
Source: Military.com
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