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Strange isn't it? People happily spend monies on killing one another, and when it comes to helping out one another, people are really stingy?

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Britain is not only getting a whole lotta lot of F-35B STOVL fighters, but two new 60,000-ton state-of-the-art aircraft carriers. Apparently, according to Dr Lee Willett, it's all part of a new World arms race:

All the major navies in the world are now building them. The Russians have one of their big carriers, the Admiral Kuznetsov, back at sea and have stated that they plan to build 12 carrier battle groups. The Chinese and the Indians are also under way with plans, the Japanese are building a destroyer that will act as a helicopter carrier and the US are working on new-generation carriers. We’re an island nation and we have global interests so we need these four acres of moveable sovereign airfield that we can deploy wherever we want, whenever we need them.

The world is an unstable place and, post-Iraq and the global war on terror, access to other nation’s territory or airspace is more difficult.

Great. When have I heard this before? Maybe knowing that Dr Willett is head of the Maritime Studies Programme at the Royal United Services Institute, helps in understanding that maybe he has an special interest in this two mobile naval airbases.

The carriers—which will cost $5.9 billion, a lot less than the $14 billion that the US spends on their super-carriers—will host 36 F-35s and two EH-101 Merlin multi-purpose helicopters each.

Constructed in modules all across Britain, which will be later assembled in a very complicated process in a central shipyard—will be almost fully automated, requiring only a 1,500 crew. Here is the fact sheet:

• The surface of the16,000sqm flight deck is covered in a grainy,heat-resistant paint,similar to very coarse sandpaper. The entire painted surface amounts to 370 acres - slightly bigger than Hyde Park.

• Two huge lifts, each with a 70-ton capacity, are capable of transporting two aircraft from the hangar to the flight deck in 60 seconds.

• The ground-breaking twin-island layout allows more deck space for aircraft and better visibility of the flight deck. The forward island is for navigating the ship; flight control is based in the aft island.

• The ship's 29,000 sq m hangar is 150 metres in length and has 20 slots for aircraft maintenance.

• There are 11 full-time medical staff on board managing an eight-bed medical suite, operating theatre and dental surgery.

• Onboard water treatment plant produces over 500 tons of fresh water daily.

• Two Rolls-Royce MT30 gas turbines and four diesel generator sets produce 109MW.

• Cabins are spacious and cruise-liner style, with en-suite toilets and shower facilities. Officers and senior ratings have single or two-berth cabins. The maximum number of crew in a cabin is six.

• The carrier will carry more than 8,600 tons of fuel, enough for the average family car to travel to the Moon and back 12 times. This gives a range of up to 10,000 nautical miles.

• Top speed will be in excess of 25 knots, sufficient to cross from Dover to Calais in an hour.

• The two five-blade propellers are each 30ft in diameter - that's one-and-a-half times the height of a double-decker bus.
 

Leongsam

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Strange isn't it? People happily spend monies on killing one another, and when it comes to helping out one another, people are really stingy?

It's not strange at all. That's human nature for you.

Humans have been slaughtering each other since the dawn of mankind. Why would they suddenly change their behavior without a significant genetic modification to their brain structure and DNA?:rolleyes:

Human conflict permeates all spheres of interaction. Just take a look at this forum.. count the number of "helpful" posts vs those which spew hatred, disdain and condemnation.

The longest and most active threads are invariably those where members are going for each others throats!:p
 

sleaguepunter

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What UK is building are for coastal defense, ie just for protection North Altantic sea lanes. It not even nuke power and had only 30+ fixed wing aircraft which is less than half of US aircraft carrier. Certaintly not for projection of power.
 

VIBGYOR

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F15 are land based. Maybe SAF should had brought the F18 Super Hornet instead.:biggrin:

yeah, the flying dump truck!

can carry 10 BVR Aim-120 missiles.

1 plane can shoot down 10 enemies planes....if they are stupid of course...:biggrin:

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sleaguepunter

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Actually i always find it strange SAF opt for the F15SG when the F18 Super Hornet is a better choice since SAF want a fighter that can use for land support operation.

F18 certaintly had the "leg" for long range operations. Can be use in combat air patrol, very well armed and consider the fact we are a island, we should had an aircraft that can be use to attack an enemy sea based assets and F18 also had an array of bombs for land operations.
 

VIBGYOR

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Actually i always find it strange SAF opt for the F15SG when the F18 Super Hornet is a better choice since SAF want a fighter that can use for land support operation.

F18 certaintly had the "leg" for long range operations. Can be use in combat air patrol, very well armed and consider the fact we are a island, we should had an aircraft that can be use to attack an enemy sea based assets and F18 also had an array of bombs for land operations.

you think people at DSTA plays with fighters simulators often? or they just compare specifications? :biggrin:

F-15 are good at interceptor role, not very good for ground attacks.

Maybe they want to counter Mudlands made in ah neh land Mig30s?

just imagine what kinda of ground support a sinkie soldier can get with some of these loadouts.

SHEER POWER MAN! LOL...

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DerekLeung

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human conflict permeates all spheres of interaction. Just take a look at this forum.. Count the number of "helpful" posts vs those which spew hatred, disdain and condemnation.

The longest and most active threads are invariably those where members are going for each others throats
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sleaguepunter

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you think people at DSTA plays with fighters simulators often? or they just compare specifications? :biggrin:

F-15 are good at interceptor role, not very good for ground attacks.

That why i dont get it when they opt for the F15SG, which is variant that can be use for air to m&d. If SAF had wanted a air superiority aircraft, then shd had wanted a normal F15E. Instead now what we had are two aircraft that are not air superiority fighters. F16C/D while can be use as a interceptor, it primary purpose is still a land attack aircraft.

So why the hell is SAF getting F15SG when F16 falcon can be use for the same purpose. Does that mean SAF will buy the F22 Raptor when F5 Tiger phrase out? lol
 

sleaguepunter

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To show off lah, Our Muslim neighbours will think twice before attacking us.

This is nonsense, our Northern neighbour want us out of their life. If singapore is included inside malaysia, the whole racial ratio will be alter. With us as malaysia citizens, the malays will be less than 50%. That something UNMO will never want. Btw, malaysia armed forces can only use to fight insurgents, and whatever "high tech" weapons they buy, are only use to counter what SAF Already had.

As for the southern neighbour, they had enough problems keeping what they had from breaking away. It armed forces although huge compare to us, had no way of assaulting Spore shore without getting half kill in the Straits of Singapore in the process.

In a way, Spore Govt is the country that spark an arm race in the region. Why the fcuk SAF need a F15 when our neighbour already crashed half of its aging Mig29 inventories.:confused:
 

ahbengsong

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12 carrier battle group ???... thats a fantasy... at the height of WW2... the Japanese navy has only 3 carrier battle groups... even the US at its peak then has 5...

12 ???... toys is it ???
 

shelltox

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Actually i always find it strange SAF opt for the F15SG when the F18 Super Hornet is a better choice since SAF want a fighter that can use for land support operation.

F18 certaintly had the "leg" for long range operations. Can be use in combat air patrol, very well armed and consider the fact we are a island, we should had an aircraft that can be use to attack an enemy sea based assets and F18 also had an array of bombs for land operations.


The Hornet had a longer turnaround time and by the way our friend up north has a squadron of them.
 

dream_waker

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12 carrier battle group ???... thats a fantasy... at the height of WW2... the Japanese navy has only 3 carrier battle groups... even the US at its peak then has 5...

12 ???... toys is it ???


Wrong, the Jap started the war with 9 carriers. However, 12 carrier battle group just by selling oil is indeed pure fantasy.
 

numero uno

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This is nonsense, our Northern neighbour want us out of their life. If singapore is included inside malaysia, the whole racial ratio will be alter. With us as malaysia citizens, the malays will be less than 50%. That something UNMO will never want. Btw, malaysia armed forces can only use to fight insurgents, and whatever "high tech" weapons they buy, are only use to counter what SAF Already had.

As for the southern neighbour, they had enough problems keeping what they had from breaking away. It armed forces although huge compare to us, had no way of assaulting Spore shore without getting half kill in the Straits of Singapore in the process.

In a way, Spore Govt is the country that spark an arm race in the region. Why the fcuk SAF need a F15 when our neighbour already crashed half of its aging Mig29 inventories.:confused:
ah. typical talk c#ck and sing song by arm chair generals who never fight a war and no common sense. what the use of all these weapons??? use your common sense . Our southern neighbours no need these expensive useless weapons/ fighter jets They only need to let burn their yearly forest clearing like they do every mid year haze and we common folks are at their mercy. remember 1992-94 haze which was so terrible that you cannnot see more than 50meters, hospitals A&E were chockful of people with coughs and respiratory diseases and people forced to stay indoor and begging govt to do something quick. no need all these crap fighter jets, all they need is just a match stick!!!
 
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