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BuiKia

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SINGAPORE — There were huge risks, on both the safety and operational fronts, for ordinary police officers to move in on the rioters in Little India, the Committee of Inquiry (COI) was told yesterday.

Being outnumbered, untrained to deal with such chaos and without the proper gear, the toll of casualties among the law-enforcement forces could have been higher had they rushed in instead of holding their positions, said the Deputy Commander of the Special Operations Command (SOC), which quelled the mob on Dec 8 last year.

Worse, had an officer been taken down while trying to stop the mob, “I can envision the crowd then surging on that and being emboldened by that,” added Deputy Assistant Commissioner (DAC) David Scott Arul.

His backing of the police not actively confronting rioters that night comes a day after the police commander in charge of overseeing ground operations was grilled extensively by the COI on why he decided to “stay put ... and did nothing”.

Since the inquiry began, police actions have been scrutinised for whether they were a factor in the melee lasting as long as it did.

But yesterday, DAC Arul pointed out that the ordinary police officers were too scattered into different groups to deal with the mob effectively. They were also not trained or equipped to deal with riots, he added, unlike the SOC, which has intermediate options, such as the riot baton and tear gas.

DAC Arul added that 37 officers were hurt that day, though the police did not engage the crowd. “I fear that if they had engaged the crowd, we would have seen greater injuries. We might have seen much more severe injuries.”

In contrast, only one of his 48 troopers on the ground was injured because the SOC were “well protected” by their gear.

DAC Arul added: “Our folks came in and we dealt with the situation, and in the days that followed, there was a lot of praise for our troops and I was very proud of them.

“But as I heard reports about what the frontline officers had to deal with, their initial numbers on the ground, and the actions they took, frankly I was quite proud of the fact that they managed to hold that line without being overrun.”

However, COI member Tee Tua Ba, a former police commissioner, said that whether the police were running away out of fear or retreating for tactical reasons was up for debate.

And when COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement, he replied: “I’m not trying to sell an official line — this is my assessment.”

The committee also again cited the example of Sergeant Fadli Shaifuddin, who thrice charged solo at crowds to disperse them, and asked if the police could have done more.

DAC Arul testified, however, that while the officer’s actions were brave, it was “not the most tactically sound way to engage a riot because you risk this escalation that you may not be able to deal with”.

“For several seconds, he brought the crowd back, they came back on him, and according to his statement, he agitated them more, and the projectiles were still flying, drain covers being thrown like Frisbees across the road,” he said.

The COI also heard that the Deputy Commissioner of Police’s orders for the SOC was to arrest as many rioters as possible.

However, DAC Arul said he was unable to comply because he did not have enough men. That was why he had to focus on dispersing the crowd and arrested only those who resisted.
 

tonychat

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ball-less means ball-less lah, waste so much time and effort to justified they are not ball-less?

what a fucking sinkie.
 

saratogas

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"COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement"

COI Chairman suggested that this Ah Neh doesn't have a mind of his own.... Ha ha ha.
 

laksaboy

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He looks like this Indian super cop. :biggrin:


[video=youtube;giJCL_jhnsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJCL_jhnsE[/video]
 

GoldenDragon

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"COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement"

COI Chairman suggested that this Ah Neh doesn't have a mind of his own.... Ha ha ha.

He is a nice chap. Spent a short stint in ISD then back to SPF.
 

winnipegjets

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Any fool can tell that this guy is protecting his boss lah. By the way, he has ZERO credibility. His troops didn't handle the situation well. They were late to the scene and then could not apprehend the perpetrators. What a joke.

There would not have been a riot if the initial responders were allowed to use their firearms to stop the situation from deteriorating.
 

Cestbon

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SG police/army/security...................are train to confront any opponent with at leat ratio 10 police/red army to 1 rioter/robber. They do not dare to on ONE to ONE.
 

tanwahtiu

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consider they are only construction FWs and nothing to be afraid of them. Most of them are good and obedient people and only some are idiots.

Jiak leow bee SPF cannot handle the situation say so lah, brown cocks calling black cocks brown.

Need more real riots to make SPF competent? Send them to Ukrian now for real mobs civil unrest.



ball-less means ball-less lah, waste so much time and effort to justified they are not ball-less?

what a fucking sinkie.
 

halsey02

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"COI Chairman G Pannir Selvam remarked to DAC Arul that his explanations sounded like an official statement"

COI Chairman suggested that this Ah Neh doesn't have a mind of his own.... Ha ha ha.

The whole thing is a 'wayang"...including those asking the question....at the end of the day..it is bus aunty fault...she got the ah nehs who were drunk, excited...your fault too, for you have allowed them to be underpaid.....
 

Royalblood

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I dun noe abt u guys, but this coi looks more like a witch hunting initiative to me, rather than an objective look on the issue at hand. The committee seems more interested in purposely finding faults in the officer, with the ultimate intention of pushing all the blame to them lol.


This coi is nothing more than a scapegoat finding ceremony.
 

Semaj2357

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consider they are only construction FWs and nothing to be afraid of them. Most of them are good and obedient people and only some are idiots.

Jiak leow bee SPF cannot handle the situation say so lah, brown cocks calling black cocks brown.

Need more real riots to make SPF competent? Send them to Ukrian now for real mobs civil unrest.
to strut along clarke quay, hv, geyland, orchard rd etc ala koiboi django with the mp5 like an extn of their dicks and look at females (and men, for some of them) is good for wayang and a deterrence at best. but when it come to the crutch / crotch and whipping ass, i also donch know what to say ..:cool:
 

laksaboy

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I dun noe abt u guys, but this coi looks more like a witch hunting initiative to me, rather than an objective look on the issue at hand. The committee seems more interested in purposely finding faults in the officer, with the ultimate intention of pushing all the blame to them lol.


This coi is nothing more than a scapegoat finding ceremony.

Exactly. But can you blame the pappies for not attempting to score points through the COI? :wink:

The ground is not very sweet, and the people are not very happy, to put it mildly.

Some of the poodle commanders had better watch their backs. :cool:
Obedient uniformed grunts are easy pawns for sacrifice.
 

GoldenDragon

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I dun noe abt u guys, but this coi looks more like a witch hunting initiative to me, rather than an objective look on the issue at hand. The committee seems more interested in purposely finding faults in the officer, with the ultimate intention of pushing all the blame to them lol.


This coi is nothing more than a scapegoat finding ceremony.

Imo all COIs are the same. Someone has to be the scapegoat. Tbey are more interested in ascertaining not WHAT went wrong but WHO did wrong.
 
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