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GORA-BOKKA, ETHIOPIA/OTTAWA (REUTERS) - The United States on Wednesday joined Europe, China and other countries in grounding Boeing’s 737 Max jets, because of safety concerns after an Ethiopian Airlines plane crash that killed 157 people, the second disaster involving the 737 in less than five months.
The world’s biggest planemaker is facing its most serious crisis in years, as the decades-old 737 programme, one of its most reliable sources of cash and profits, takes a severe blow to its prestige.
The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) cited new satellite data and evidence from the scene of Sunday’s crash near Addis Ababa for its decision to ground the planes.
It was the second time the FAA has halted flights of a Boeing plane in six years. It had grounded the 787 Dreamliner in 2013 because of problems with smoking batteries.
Shares of the Seattle-based company ended up 0.5 per cent at US$377.14, recovering from a more than 3 per cent fall in the afternoon when the FAA announcement was made.
Tim Ghriskey, chief investment strategist at Inverness Counsel in New York, said the grounding gives Boeing time to address any problems and not face another potential disaster.


US airlines that operate the 737 Max, Southwest Airlines, American Airlines Group and United Airlines, said they were working to re-book passengers.
Southwest is the world’s largest operator of the 737 Max 8 with 34 jets, while American flies 24 Max 8s and United 14 Max 9s.

Shares of Southwest fell 0.4 per cent.
“The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analysed today,” the FAA said in a statement, shortly after US President Donald Trump announced the planes would be grounded.
“This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.”
The grounding will remain in effect as the FAA investigates.

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Boeing, which maintained that its planes were safe to fly, said in a statement that it supported the move to temporarily ground 737 Max flights.
“Boeing has determined – out of an abundance of caution and in order to reassure the flying public of the aircraft’s safety - to recommend to the FAA the temporary suspension of operations of the entire global fleet of 371 737 Max aircraft.”
The still-unexplained crash followed another involving a Boeing 737 Max in Indonesia five months ago that killed 189 people. Although there is no proof of any link, the twin disasters have spooked passengers.
Travel website Kayak was making changes to let customers exclude specific aircraft types from searches, and booking sites were looking to reroute passengers.
The grounding was welcomed by air workers in the United States. John Samuelsen, international president of the Transport Workers Union of America, which represent aviation workers and flight attendants, said the grounding of the fleet was right “both for air travellers and aviation workers.”
NEW SATELLITE DATA
Canada also grounded 737 Max jets on Wednesday, saying satellite data suggested similarities to the previous crash involving the same plane model in October.
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US-based aircraft-tracking firm Aireon provided the satellite data to the FAA, Transport Canada and several other authorities, company spokeswoman Jessie Hillenbrand said.
Aireon’s space-based system can monitor data from aircraft equipped with Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) transponders. The data is considered less detailed than that in black boxes, which look at systems running inside the plane.
Germany’s federal agency responsible for investigating air accidents said it would not analyse the damaged black boxes from the Ethiopian Airlines plane, casting uncertainty over the process of finding out what may have caused the disaster. The US FAA said the black boxes were headed to France later on Wednesday.
Ethiopian Airlines spokesman Asrat Begashaw said it was still unclear what happened on Sunday, but its pilot had reported control issues as opposed to external factors such as birds.

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“The pilot reported flight control problems and requested to turn back. In fact he was allowed to turn back,” he said.
The chairman of the US House of Representatives Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Democrat Peter DeFazio, called for a probe into why the 737 Max received certification to fly.
“There must be a rigorous investigation into why the aircraft, which has critical safety systems that did not exist on prior models, was certified without requiring additional pilot training,” he said.
PAYING RESPECTS AT THE SITE
At the rural site where Flight ET 302, which was bound for the Kenyan capital Nairobi, came down near the village of Gora-Bokka, dozens of grief-stricken relatives paid their respects.
Only charred fragments of victims remain, meaning it will take weeks to identify all of them using dental or DNA testing.
The passengers came from more than 30 nations.
One elderly couple collapsed into each other's arms after strewing flowers in front of a picture of a smiling young woman, while a family propped each other up, tears coursing down their faces. Another shrine showed images of a young couple embracing.
Since the Indonesia crash, there has been a focus on an automated anti-stall system in the 737 Max that dips the aircraft's nose down.
Many airlines were keeping to schedule by using other jets while economic woes meant some may be grateful for a pause. The biggest impact could be on future deliveries given Boeing has nearly 5,000 more 737 Max planes on order.
India said it would not take any deliveries until safety concerns were cleared and Ethiopian Airlines said it would decide whether to cancel orders after a preliminary probe.
Passengers were fretting too, with many seeking reassurances they would not be flying on a 737 Max. Kayak.com was the first big site to say it would modify filters to allow customers to exclude particular types of planes from queries.
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The pilots' union for Southwest Airlines, which has the largest 737 Max fleet in the world with 34 aircraft, said on Wednesday that it remained confident in the model even after Canada's decision to ground the jet.
Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal suggested on Twitter that an upcoming hearing on the crash would focus on that conversation. "Chief exec's personal plea to Trump leaves more questions than answers," he said.
Norwegian Air said it would seek recompense for lost revenue and extra costs after grounding its 737 Max aircraft.
The new variant of the world's most-sold modern passenger aircraft was viewed as the likely workhorse for airlines for decades. But October's Lion Air crash in Indonesia sparked a debate on automation, particularly over a software system designed to push the plane down to stop a stall during flight.
The United Arab Emirates' aviation regulator said on Tuesday there were "marked similarities" between the crashes, and China's regulator noted both occurred shortly after take-off.
In November, two incidents were reported to the Nasa-run Aviation Safety Reporting Database that involved problems in controlling the 737 Max at low altitude just after take-off with autopilot engaged, according to documents first published by the Dallas Morning News and verified by Reuters.
"We discussed the departure at length and I reviewed in my mind our automation setup and flight profile but can't think of any reason the aircraft would pitch nose down so aggressively,"one pilot said.

 

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Boeing 737 MAX 8: US says ‘no basis’ to suspend troubled jet, but at least 45 countries disagree

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Boeing 737 MAX 8: US says ‘no basis’ to suspend troubled jet, but at least 45 countries disagree
US aviation regulators said there was “no basis” to suspend flights of Boeing’s 737 MAX jet after two fatal crashes that prompted several airlines and at least 45 countries to either ground the troubled aircraft or bar it from their airspace.
“Thus far, our review shows no systemic performance issues and provides no basis to order grounding the aircraft. Nor have other civil aviation authorities provided data to us that would warrant action,” the Federal Aviation Administration’s acting administrator Daniel Elwell, said.
The groundings come after an Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 8 jet crashed on Sunday, six minutes after take-off, killing all 157 people on board, including seven Chinese nationals and one Hongkonger.

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On October 29 last year, another MAX jet flown by Indonesia’s Lion Air crashed into the Java Sea, 12 minutes after take-off, killing all 189 passengers and crew.
China’s Boeing 737 MAX ban signals challenge to US power in civil aviation
Hong Kong on Wednesday joined Vietnam, Kazakhstan, United Arab Emirates and New Zealand, and banned the MAX jet from its airspace.
That came after the European Union on Tuesday followed China’s lead in grounding the US aircraft.
“Having regard to the latest situation, the CAD has decided to temporarily prohibit operation of Boeing B737 MAX aircraft into, out of and over Hong Kong,” a spokesman for the Civil Aviation Department (CAD) said in a statement.
“The temporary prohibition will take effect at 6pm Hong Kong time on March 13 and continue until further notice,” the CAD added.
As of 1am Thursday, Hong Kong time, only the US, Panama, and Mauritania were permitting their airlines to fly the 737 MAX. Canada, which has the world’s third-largest 737 MAX fleet, 41 planes, is the latest to ground the planes.
China’s decision to ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 driven by safety concerns
Turkish Airlines, one of the largest carriers in the world, said it was suspending use of its 12 MAX aircraft from Wednesday, until “uncertainty” was clarified.
Low-cost airline Norwegian Air Shuttle, South Korea’s Eastar Jet and South Africa’s Comair also said they would halt flights.

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The three US airlines using the 737 MAX - Southwest Airlines, American Airlines and United Airlines - stood by the aircraft, as calls from members of the US Congress to ban the Boeing 737 MAX from US airspace increased.
Republicans Mitt Romney and Ted Cruz joined several Democratic lawmakers in advocating for restrictions similar to those imposed by a growing list of nations.
America’s largest unions for airline flight attendants have also called on US regulators to ground the aircraft.
US President Donald Trump also weighed in with a blistering tweet on Tuesday: “Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly.”
“Pilot are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT,” he wrote, referring to the prestigious university.

The New York Times reported that Boeing Company’s CEO Dennis Muilenburg called Trump, urging him not to ground the plane.
Boeing donated US$1 million to Trump’s presidential inauguration and Muilenburg visited Trump at his Florida getaway in Mar-a-Lago.

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Brian Parrish, a spokesman for Southwest Airlines which flies 34 MAX 8s, said the carrier remains confident about the plane’s safety.
American Airlines, which flies 24 of the planes, said it has full confidence in the model.
There were 371 of the 737 MAX family jets in operation before this week’s groundings, according to Flightglobal. Around two-thirds of the fleet is now grounded, based on Reuters calculations.
The widening actions against the aircraft puts pressure on Boeing - the world’s biggest plane manufacturer - to prove the MAX planes are safe, and the company has said it is rolling out flight software updates by April that could address issues with a faulty sensor.
Additional reporting by Agence France-Presse, Reuters
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US pilots complained at least 5 times about Boeing 737 Max problems, records show

The cockpit of a Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft pictured during an induction ceremony at the Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport in Mumbai, on June 28, 2018.PHOTO: REUTERS
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Pilots in the United States complained at least five times in recent months about problems controlling their Boeing 737 Max 8 jets during critical moments of flight, the Politico news website reported on Tuesday (March 12), citing federal records.
Some of the incidents appear to involve the same anti-stall system that has come up as a potential cause of a Lion Air crash in Indonesia last October, according to a review of a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) incident database that lets pilots self-report trouble, said Politico.
Investigators have not said whether the same technology had emerged as a possible cause of the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines flight in Ethiopia on Sunday, with the loss of 157 lives, although both involved airliners that mysteriously plunged to the ground minutes after takeoff.
For one US incident in November 2018, reported Politico, a commercial airline pilot reported that during takeoff, the autopilot was engaged and "within two to three seconds the aircraft pitched nose down," in a manner steep enough to trigger the plane's warning system, which sounded "Don't sink, don't sink!"
After the autopilot was disengaged, the plane climbed as normal, according to the report in the FAA database.
The reports are submitted anonymously to help improve reporting of safety problems and so do not include any information about which airline was involved, Politico said.


In addition, though the reports have a spot to note what airport was involved, often pilots do not fill out that field.
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The November incident occurred days or weeks after the October crash in Indonesia, which killed 189 people aboard a Boeing 737 Max 8 operated by Lion Air.
The report noted that before the plane involved in the November incident took off, the crew had "discussed the recent Max 8 (anti-stall) guidance" issued by the FAA and Boeing.
The Max 8 is at the centre of a growing global ban by more than 40 countries following the Ethiopia mishap, the second fatal crash of the model in less than five months.
In the US, however, the FAA and airlines continued to permit the planes to fly.
American Airlines and Southwest Airlines operate the 737 Max 8, and United Airlines flies a slightly larger version, the Max 9. All three carriers vouched for the safety of Max aircraft on Wednesday (March 13), reported the Associated Press.
In both the Ethiopian Airlines and Lion Air crashes, the plane descended sharply more than once as pilots wrestled with the controls before crashing.
In the case of Lion Air, preliminary facts suggest that the cause may have been the anti-stall system, which was designed to force the plane's nose down if it seemed to be rising steeply enough to risk a stall.
Pilots groups have complained that Boeing did too little to ensure that pilots or airlines were aware of the new anti-stall feature - or knew how to turn it off if it were malfunctioning or acting on faulty data.
In another report in the FAA database, a commercial airline pilot complained about how the FAA and Boeing were handling the problem, Politico said.
While the FAA had issued an emergency directive on Nov 7, 2018, to help pilots understand how to handle problems with the anti-stall technology, "it does nothing to address the systems issues," the pilot wrote.

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The pilot further noted that the flight manuals had yet to be updated with that information at that time.
"I think it is unconscionable that a manufacturer, the FAA, and the airlines would have pilots flying an airplane without adequately training, or even providing available resources and sufficient documentation to understand the highly complex systems that differentiate this aircraft from prior models," the pilot wrote.
"The fact that this airplane requires such jury rigging to fly is a red flag. Now we know the systems employed are error prone - even if the pilots aren't sure what those systems are, what redundancies are in place, and failure modes."
The pilot added: "I am left to wonder: what else don't I know? The Flight Manual is inadequate and almost criminally insufficient. All airlines that operate the Max must insist that Boeing incorporate ALL systems in their manuals."
In a separate report from October, a pilot complained that a Max 8's autothrottles - which command the plane to accelerate to a set speed within certain parameters - were not working properly even though the crew had engaged them.
The pilot noticed quickly and adjusted the thrust manually to continue to climb.
"Shortly afterwards I heard about the (other carrier) accident and am wondering if any other crews have experienced similar incidents with the autothrottle system on the Maz?" the pilot wrote in the report.
The pilot wrote that both he or she and the captain were new with this model plane and thus "not able to identify whether it was the aircraft or me that was in error."
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At least four US pilots filed reports following the October crash of a Lion Air flight in Indonesia shortly after takeoff and all complained the aircraft suddenly pitched downward.

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WASHINGTON: The US decision on Wednesday (Mar 13) to ground the Boeing 737 MAX came after authorities noted similarities between two recent crashes, eerily echoing reports from American pilots who complained of problems with the plane late last year.
At least four US pilots filed reports following the October crash of a Lion Air flight in Indonesia shortly after takeoff and all complained the aircraft suddenly pitched downward, according to documents reviewed by AFP on a flight safety database.


The Lion Air crash that killed 189 people was attributed to the flight stabilization system designed to prevent the aircraft from stalling, the "MCAS."
The Federal Aviation Administration said on Wednesday that new evidence and satellite data indicated similarities with Sunday's crash of an Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX 8 minutes after takeoff, killing 157.
That link "warrants further investigation of the possibility of a shared cause for the two incidents," the FAA said in the emergency order grounding the 737 MAX 8 and MAX 9 aircraft.
Dozens of airlines and governments around the world had already taken that step.


The cause of the tragedy in Ethiopia has not been determined, although the black boxes with critical data and recordings of the pilots were retrieved on Monday and are due to be shipped to France for analysis.
Boeing already announced it was working on an update to its flight software and training on the aircraft.
'DONT SINK, DONT SINK'
One pilot on a US carrier reported an incident in November 2018, just weeks after the Lion Air crash, saying the plane "pitched nose down" two to three seconds after engaging the autopilot following takeoff, according to the report on the Aviation Safety Reporting System, maintained by NASA.
"The captain immediately disconnected the autopilot and pitched into a climb," the report said. "The rest of the flight was uneventful."
The flight crew reviewed the incident "at length ... but can't think of any reason the aircraft would pitch nose-down so aggressively."
Another pilot on a flight in November said the crew discussed the concerns about the aircraft following the Lion Air crash, and "I mentioned I would engage the autopilot sooner than usual."
But again once engaged, there was a quick automated warning of "DONT SINK, DONT SINK!"
"I immediately disconnected the AP (autopilot) ... and resumed climb," the officer said. But after review, "frankly neither of us could find an inappropriate setup error."
"With the concerns with the MAX 8 nose-down stuff, we both thought it appropriate to bring it to your attention."
The Lion Air accident had focused attention on Angle of Attack (AOA) sensors connected to the aircraft stabilisation system.
A malfunction of these systems may erroneously correct the path by pitching the aircraft down due to a mistaken assessment that the aircraft is in a stall.
Andrew Hunter, a defense industry expert at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, said while Boeing and the FAA have good track records on addressing safety concerns, sometimes the combination of automated systems and humans do not work smoothly.
"It is hard to get a system to work seamlessly with human beings," he told AFP.
"The fact the system was fighting the pilot was not an unintended consequence," because it should counteract a pilot error and correcting this is "challenging."
"I'm not sure the fix here was quite so easy," Hunter said.
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Global airlines face huge losses due to grounding of Boeing 737 MAX 8
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The latest crash of Boeing’s best-selling passenger jet has sent shockwaves through the entire airline industry. Dozens of countries grounded the 737 MAX following national regulators’ requirements.
The aircraft saw two deadly accidents in less than five months. Sunday’s tragedy in Ethiopia took the lives of 157 people. The crash in Indonesia in October killed 189 people.
The narrow-body Boeing 737 MAX 8 that hit the market in 2017 has been generally recognized by dozens of air carriers across the globe for its bigger engine and improved fuel efficiency in comparison with previous versions. According to the producer, 355 MAX 8 jets were operated by global carriers as of January 31, 2019 with 5,123 total orders for the aircraft. The average price of the unit reportedly reaches $121.6 million.

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Both crashes involving MAX 8 planes are currently under investigations that could take months to complete. RT has decided to look into potential losses for the air carriers that have the most MAX jets in their fleet in the worst case scenario that may include full grounding and a halt to the deliveries of the plane.
Chinese air carriers reportedly accounted for about 20 percent of 737 MAX deliveries worldwide through January. On Monday, the country’s aviation regulator ordered national operators to ground nearly 100 planes. The move reportedly hit 29 international and domestic flights on Monday alone, forcing the airlines to replace the plane on 256 other flights that had been scheduled to use it.
The US carriers are reportedly the second biggest outlet for the world’s largest aerospace group. Despite two deadly crashes, the US Federal Aviation Administration hasn’t put any restrictions on the use of the 737 Max 8s by domestic carriers so far and Boeing has refused to ground the aircraft worldwide. The agency said the model is airworthy, and stressed that Boeing is currently developing a software update on the aircraft in cooperation with the FAA.

Meanwhile, Dallas-based Southwest Airlines is operating 34 of the aircraft with the number of orders reportedly totaling 249. American Airlines orders reportedly totals 78 with the carrier flying 22 planes, while United Airlines placed orders for 124 jets with 12 planes in its current fleet.
Emirati low-cost airline Flydubai is also among Boeing’s biggest customers. With 11 aircraft currently in service, the airline reportedly has 237 planes on order. The company had to ground its Boeing 737 Max 8 and 737 Max 9 aircraft following the directive issued by the United Arab Emirates General Civil Aviation Authority.
Indonesia’s Lion Air, which had the MAX jet crash in October, has reportedly ordered 187 units of the aircraft. Earlier this week, the airline grounded its remaining MAX fleet after the second crash in Ethiopia.

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Low-cost airline Norwegian Air Shuttle which had been operating 18 of Boeing’s 737 MAX 8 jets before it was forced to ground them also announced plans to demand financial compensation from the producer. Norwegian reportedly has 110 MAX jets on order.
Air Canada, which is operating 24 planes of the type, has reportedly ordered 41 jets of the 737 family. So far, Canadian authorities refused to place any ban on using the aircraft despite the latest tragedy.
Irish low-cost carrier Ryanair is not currently operating any 737 Max 8 planes. However, the company has reportedly placed an order for 100 jets.
Airlines stand to lose billions from the grounding of one of the world's most popular planes as they scramble to find replacement aircraft. Smaller carriers may suffer much bigger losses, as they do not have as many alternatives in their fleet as their larger rivals.
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US President Donald Trump has decided to ground all Boeing 737 Max airplanes, citing safety concerns after the fatal crash in Ethiopia. The US was among the last holdovers in grounding the controversial jet.
“The safety of the American people and all people is our paramount concern,” Trump said Wednesday at the White House, announcing the measure. The order applies to all Max 8 and Max 9 versions of the popular airliner.

Planes that are in the air will be grounded...upon landing at the destination.​

“We are supporting this proactive step out of an abundance of caution,” Boeing said following Trump’s announcement. The company's shares reacted by tumbling almost 10 points, or 2.5 percent.

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Trump praised the airline manufacturer as a “great company” and said he hoped that Boeing will come up “very quickly” with answers to what caused the crash in Ethiopia, but “until they do the planes are grounded.”
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is expected to make a formal announcement, with possibly additional details about the Ethiopia crash and the length of the suspension.
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Earlier in the day, Canada banned the 737 Max jets from operating in its airspace, leaving the US as the sole holdout. China led the way in grounding the jets in the wake of the Ethiopian Airlines crash, with the EU following suit, followed by a number of airlines across the world. By Wednesday morning, only the US and Canada were still allowing the 737 Max models to fly.
The White House’s reluctance to ground the jets was understandable, given that Boeing is one of the largest passenger jet manufacturers in the world and a major military contractor. However, it appears the risk of another fatal crash overrode financial and political concerns.
The 737 MAX series was introduced in 2016 as the fourth-generation update to the narrow-body airliner that first flew in 1967. The crash in Ethiopia was the second fatal accident involving the airplane model in five months, following the October 2018 disaster in Indonesia that killed 189.
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Canada has announced a nationwide ban on Boeing 737 MAX flights in its airspace, citing “new data” linking two deadly crashes. Info from the US federal database revealed pilots have long been complaining about the plane’s issues.
In a statement to the press, Transport Minister Marc Garneau announced that the “new data” influencing the decision came from “validated satellite tracking,” and that it suggested similarities between the two crashes involving the new Boeing jet. Although the data was sufficient to justify shutting down Canadian airspace to all flights involving the commercial jet, the minister stressed it was too soon to draw any conclusions.

“This safety notice restricts commercial passenger flights from any air operator, both domestic and foreign, of the Boeing 737 Max 8 and 9 aircraft from arriving, departing, or overflying Canadian airspace,” Garneau said.
Around 40 of the aircrafts were in use throughout various Canadian fleets, which has led to canceled and delayed flights across the country in the wake of the ban.
READ MORE: India bans all Boeing 737 MAX planes from entering its airspace
Earlier in the week, Garneau had suggested that grounding the jets would be a “premature” decision, taking a stance similar to the US’ FAA which has still not taken any action against the American-made aircraft. Garneau did not specify precisely what the new details revealed, but investigations into the US federal database show that pilots had already leveled serious complaints about the aircraft.
‘Nose-diving’ complaints
According to a CNN report, two American pilots reported that they had experienced issues after engaging the Max 8’s autopilot system, including the plane unexpectedly dipping into a nose-dive. The autopilot had to be disengaged for the rest of the flight.
Both the Ethiopian Airlines and the Lion Air pilots reported similar “flight-control problems” to air traffic control shortly after take-off, adding to suspicions that the problem is intrinsic to the aircraft.
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Another report complained about the woeful inadequacy of the flight manual, describing it as “inadequate and almost criminally insufficient.” The same report said that it was “unconscionable” that pilots were being expected to fly the plane with insufficient training and limited information.
READ MORE: Europe bans Boeing 737 MAX: Planes grounded, diverted as nations shut airspace over Ethiopia crash
Sunday’s Ethiopian Airlines crash left 157 people dead, and followed another crash involving the same airplane model just a few months earlier in Indonesia which killed 189. While the crashes raised widespread concerns about the aircraft’s autopilot function, Boeing has repeatedly stated that the vessel is safe and airworthy.
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(Reuters) - The United States on Wednesday became the latest to join the long list of countries around the globe to ground Boeing’s 737 MAX aircraft following Sunday’s deadly plane crash in Ethiopia.

American civil aviation and Boeing investigators search through the debris at the scene of the Ethiopian Airlines Flight ET 302 plane crash, near the town of Bishoftu, southeast of Addis Ababa, Ethiopia March 12, 2019. REUTERS/Baz Ratner
Boeing has said that the investigation into the crash remains in its early stages and it has no basis to issue new guidance to operators.
Here is what airlines and regulators worldwide have said:
AEROMEXICO
The Mexican airline said it suspended the operation of its six MAX 8 planes and those flights would be covered by the rest of its fleet.
AMERICAN AIRLINES
The company said it remained fully confident in the aircraft. Mechanics’ union TWU has urged the company’s chief executive to ground MAX 8s.
AUSTRALIA’S CIVIL AVIATION SAFETY AUTHORITY
The regulator said it had suspended the operation of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft to or from the country.
BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
The British overseas territory’s aviation authority said it prohibited MAX 8 and MAX 9 aircraft from its airspace.
BRAZIL’S AIR TRAVEL REGULATOR, GOL LINHAS AEREAS INTELIGENTES SA
The Brazilian regulator said it was not grounding the aircraft. Gol, which operates seven MAX 8s, said it was suspending use of the aircraft.
CANADA’S TRANSPORT MINISTRY, AIR CANADA, WESTJET AIRLINES
Canada Transport Minister Marc Garneau said Ottawa would stop 737 MAX 8 and 9 planes from flying into, out of or over Canadian airspace.
Air Canada said customers could expect delays in re-booking and in reaching its call centres. Its 737 MAX operations on average fly 9,000-12,000 passengers every day.
WestJet said it is contacting impacted passengers to arrange alternate travel plans.
CAYMAN AIRWAYS
The airline said it had grounded both its MAX 8 jets.

CHINA’S AVIATION REGULATOR
The regulator grounded 96 MAX 8s including those operated by Air China, China Eastern Airlines, China Southern Airlines and Hainan Airlines.
COMAIR
The South African airline said it would remove 737 MAX8 jets from its schedule. It has ordered eight aircraft of this type but has only received one.
EUROPEAN AVIATION SAFETY AGENCY
The European Union’s aviation safety agency has suspended all flights in the bloc by 737-8 and 737-9 airplanes.
ETHIOPIAN AIRLINES
The airline whose plane crashed on Sunday, killing all 157 on board, grounded the remaining four of its 737 MAX 8 fleet on Monday.
The company’s chief executive officer said Boeing should ground all of its 737 MAX 8 jets until it is established that they are safe to fly.
CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY OF FIJI, FIJI AIRWAYS
The airline and the authority temporarily grounded the carrier’s two 737 MAX planes, saying they had confidence in the model’s airworthiness but would suspend flights out of deference to public concern and regulatory action around the world.
HONG KONG’S CIVIL AVIATION DEPARTMENT
The agency said operation of all 737 max aircraft into, out of and over Hong Kong will be temporarily prohibited.
INDIAN MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION, SPICEJET, JET AIRWAYS
India says it will not allow 737 MAX aircraft to enter or transit its airspace. SpiceJet, which has 12 MAX 8s and another 155 MAX planes on order, said it expects to complete the grounding of those planes on Wednesday. Jet Airways said it is not flying the aircraft.
IRAQ’S CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
Iraq banned 737 MAX aircraft from entering or transiting its airspace.
KAZAKHSTAN’S CIVIL AVIATION COMMITTEE
Kazakhstan suspended 737 Max flights. Only one aircraft of that make is registered in the Central Asian nation, belonging to a privately-owned Scat airline.

KUWAIT CIVIL AVIATION
The aviation authority banned MAX 8 aircraft from its airspace, state news agency KUNA said.
MACAU’S CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
The regulator says it is suspending approvals of requests by airlines to use the 737 MAX. There are no such aircraft currently registered in Macau.
MIAT MONGOLIAN AIRLINES
The state airline, which rented one 737 MAX from Feb. 1, grounded the aircraft. It had signed a contract to rent three Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft and was planning to rent the other two later this year.
NIGERIA’S MINISTER OF AVIATION
Nigeria has issued a warning to all airline operators not to operate 737, MAX 8s and 9s into and outside any airport in the country until the cause of the crashed Ethiopian Airline plane is made known, the minister said.
NORWEGIAN AIR
The company will temporarily ground its MAX 8 passenger jets at the advice of European regulators. It operates 18 MAX jets.
Norwegian also said it will seek compensation from Boeing for costs and lost revenue.
NEW ZEALAND’S CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
The regulator suspended MAX aircraft from flying to or from the country, saying Fiji Airways would be the only airline affected.]
S7 AIRLINES
Russian S7 Airlines said it would ground its two MAX 8 planes starting Wednesday and that the decision would not affect its flight schedules.
SINGAPORE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY, SINGAPORE AIRLINES
Singapore’s Civil Aviation Authority suspended operations of all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft in and out of the country. Singapore Airlines said its unit Silk Air, which operates 6 MAX 8 planes, has temporarily withdrawn them from service.
SOUTH KOREA TRANSPORT MINISTRY, EASTAR JET
South Korea said it is conducting an emergency inspection on Eastar Jet’s two MAX 8 jets. Budget carrier Eastar Jet said it would temporarily ground its two 737 MAX 8s from Wednesday.

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SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
Southwest, the world’s largest operator of the 737 MAX 8, said it remained fully confident in the aircraft and was closely monitoring the investigation, but would waive any fare-difference charges for customers who wish to switch to another aircraft.
SWISS FEDERAL OFFICE OF CIVIL AVIATION
The EU’s suspensions of all flights by Boeing 737 MAX 8 is also valid for Switzerland, the Swiss federal office of civil aviation said.
CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY OF THAILAND
The regulator said it is suspending the use of the Thai Lion Air’s Boeing 737 MAX 9 for seven days due to safety concerns.
THE UNITED STATES
U.S. President Donald Trump said the United States was going to order grounding of all Boeing 737 MAX 8 and MAX 9.
“We are going to be issuing an emergency order of prohibition to ground all flights of the 737 MAX 8 and the 737 MAX 9 and planes associated with that line,” Trump told reporters at the White House.
TUI AIRWAYS
Germany’s TUI Group, the largest leisure, travel and tourism company in the world, said it was discontinuing all Boeing 737MAX 8 flights.
TURKEY TRANSPORT MINISTRY, TURKISH AIRLINES
The ministry has suspended all flights by the 737 MAX 8 and MAX 9 models, Anadolu news agency said. The announcement came after Turkish Airlines said it had suspended its 12 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft.
UAE GENERAL CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY, FLYDUBAI
The civil aviation regulator banned the operation of all MAX models in UAE airspace, Emirates News Agency (WAM) said. Flydubai, which has 11 MAX 8 aircraft in its fleet, according to Flightradar24, is the only UAE airline operating the MAX 8 and MAX 9 aircraft.
UK CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
Britain suspended flights of the 737 MAX aircraft over its territory.
UKRAINE AVIATION AUTHORITY
Ukraine has suspended all flights of 737-8 and 737-9 MAX aircrafts inside its territory.
UZBEKISTAN’S CIVIL AVIATION AGENCY
Uzbekistan’s civil aviation agency on Wednesday barred 737 Max jets from taking off or landing at local airports for one month.

VIETNAM’S CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY
The agency said it banned 737 MAX aircraft from Vietnamese airspace.
VIRGIN AUSTRALIA
The Australian airline said it would continue to work with Boeing; the airline, which does not have any 737 MAX 8 aircraft,said its first delivery was not due until November.
Compiled by Alexander Cornwell in Dubai, Chandini Monnappa and Uday Sampath in Bengaluru and Sayantani Ghosh in Singapore; Editing by Alexander Smith and Robert Birsel
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[syed putra]

So don't use the auto pilot while ascending. Boeing could have given that instruuction earlier after lion sir crash. But that is like admitting a fault and paying compensation. Now they have doubled the crash problem and damaged its reputation.

 

[syed putra]

Delta made the right chouce not buying boeing max. But hope the pratt and whitney engine holds up and not screw up like rolls royce trent.

 

[Ang4MohTrump]

So don't use the auto pilot while ascending. Boeing could have given that instruuction earlier after lion sir crash. But that is like admitting a fault and paying compensation. Now they have doubled the crash problem and damaged its reputation.

Not so simple, I am sure pilots don't want to die. They must had tried everything when shit happened.

Boeing gave some crappy special instructions and warnings on that jet after 1st crash. Did not prevented the 2nd crash.

 

[Ang4MohTrump]

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‘Don’t sink! Don’t sink!’ Pilot reports reveal at least 2 incidents of Boeing 737 MAX 8 nosediving
Published time: 14 Mar, 2019 13:21 Edited time: 14 Mar, 2019 13:51
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Boeing 737 MAX 8 pilots reported their planes nosedived and lost altitude in at least two incidents before the current safety scandal that has seen the aircraft grounded across the world.
As Boeing deals with the fallout of its Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes being banned around the world following two deadly crashes, reports of the aircrafts nosediving have been revealed while other reports cite safety concerns.
Pilots on at least two US flights reported their aircrafts nosedived and lost altitude quickly when using autopilot mode on the 737 MAX 8 in the last few months, according to pilot reports compiled in the Aviation Safety Reporting System database administered by NASA. The data shows there were 11 reports about the Boeing 737 MAX 8 logged between April 2018 and December 2018, USA Today reports.
In one incident, as soon as the captain put the plane on autopilot, the co-pilot said, “Descending,” and a cockpit audio low altitude warning said, “Don’t sink, don’t sink!” The pilots turned off autopilot and the plane stopped descending.
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“With the concerns with the MAX 8 nose down stuff, we both thought it appropriate to bring it to your attention,” the captain wrote in the report, in reference to the Lion Air crash in Indonesia in October which killed 189. He guessed that the dip could have been caused by airspeed fluctuation due to a weather system overwhelming the plane’s automation.
The second incident saw an aircraft tipping downwards at a rate of 1,200 to 1,500 feet (365-460 meters) a minute just seconds after autopilot was engaged. The cockpit’s audio warning system issued a warning and the pilot turned off the autopilot mode. The co-pilot said he could not “think of any reason the aircraft would pitch nose-down so aggressively.”
The reports are volunteer safety ones and don’t reveal details of the airlines and pilots involved, or the location of where the incidents took place.
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The cause of the Lion Air crash is believed to have been related to the automated anti-stall system. The two reports don’t appear to have been related to that.
The Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 crash last week killed 157 people after it went down minutes after takeoff. The cause of the crash has not been determined, but the pilot reported flight control problems to air traffic controllers before the crash.
At least 40 countries including the US, 28 European nations, Canada, China, Australia, and India have banned the aircrafts over safety concerns.

 

[KuanTi01]

Canada is such a balless second-rate country despite its huge size. Always playing second fiddle to the USA and follow it like a lap dog. Presumably if the USA didn't ground the planes, Canada will be so happy to oblige.