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美国政府在华人诉讼下让步：允许美国华人继续用微信
2020年09月17日 05:19 新浪科技
新浪科技 郑峻发自美国硅谷
美国政府再次做出让步：同意美国华人可以继续使用微信。
在美国总统特朗普8月初颁布行政命令封杀微信之后，美国华人自发组成了非盈利机构美国微信用户联合会（以下简称：美微联会），计划通过起诉美国政府来维护美国500多万华人继续使用微信的权利。8月21日，美微联会在加州北区联邦法院正式起诉总统特朗普和商务部长罗斯，8月28日，美微联会提交了禁止令申请动议，认为微信禁令侵犯了美国华人的言论自由，对华人构成了歧视，要求联邦法官下达初步禁令，否决总统关于微信的行政命令。
作为本案被告的代理律师（美国司法部相当于联邦政府的代理律师），美国司法部今天就这一诉讼发表声明，澄清美国微信用户可以继续下载和使用微信，不会承担违反总统令的民事和刑事责任。美微联会向新浪科技表示，司法部声明意味着他们实现了最低目标，即保证美国华人继续使用微信。
但美微联会也强调，司法部的声明不能代表白宫和商务部，也没有得到法官认可，因此法律效力存在疑问。而且，司法部虽然澄清普通用户继续使用微信不会受到惩罚，但美国政府也没有解释谷歌和苹果商店是否会下架微信，美国用户是否还能使用微信支付功能。美国政府具体会怎样封杀微信相关交易，依然将由美国商务部出台制定。
美微联会认为，美国司法部的声明并没有给美国微信用户足够的保证，他们计划继续推进当前的诉讼。美国西部时间9月17日上午，这一诉讼将召开首次听证会。
美国总统特朗普在8月6日颁布行政命令，以国家安全为由，援引《国际紧急经济权利法案》（IEEPA），宣布在9月20日禁止美国公司及个人与腾讯进行任何微信相关的交易。根据行政命令中提到的2019年5月15日第13873号行政命令，下载和安装应用同样属于“交易”的范畴。这意味着美国政府有可能在美国地区封杀微信。但具体的封杀细则将由美国商务部制定。
几位美国华人律师因此组建了美微联会，计划通过诉讼来维护美国500多万华人使用微信的合法权利。8月21日，美微联会在加州北区联邦地区法院正式提交诉讼，起诉总统特朗普和商务部长罗斯。新浪科技在诉讼文件中看到，原告除了美微联会之外，还包括了几位普通的微信美国用户。他们的身份既有美国华人，也有非华人；既有美国公民，也有永久居民，甚至是工作签证持有者。
8月28日，美微联会提交了禁止令申请动议。9月8日，美国司法部也提交了针对美微联会诉讼的抗辩文件。9月11日，美微联会将针对美国司法部的抗辩提交回复文件。加州北区联邦地区法院将于9月17日上午召开听证会，并于9月20日宣布是否决定暂时否决总统的微信禁止令。
美微联会主席曹英向新浪科技强调，美微联会和腾讯没有任何关系，只是在美国的普通微信用户。美微联会与任何政党、政府、或腾讯控股公司及其相关机构均无任何利益关联。美微联会主席的发起人之一的吴圣洋律师就此补充说，“我们定位是维护自己通信权利的普通用户。腾讯愿意怎么游说美国政府是他们自己的事情，他们也没有联系过我们。”
此外，腾讯也就微信禁令一事聘请了美国知名律师冈萨雷斯（Roberto Gonzalez， 美国财政部的前副总法律顾问）去游说美国政府。美国沃尔玛等跨国企业巨头已经就微信禁令一事积极游说白宫，劝说美国政府不要将禁令扩大到中国市场，阻止他们在中国通过微信接触中国消费者，或是下令苹果的中国应用商店下架微信。因为禁用微信，只会导致美国企业会失去中国市场。
The U.S. government makes concessions under the Chinese lawsuit: allowing American Chinese to continue to use WeChat
September 17, 2020 05:19 Sina Technology
Sina Technology Zheng Jun from Silicon Valley, USA
The U.S. government once again made concessions: agreeing that American Chinese can continue to use WeChat.
After US President Trump issued an executive order to block WeChat in early August, Chinese Americans spontaneously formed the non-profit organization WeChat User Association of America (hereinafter referred to as the US WeChat Association), which plans to prosecute the US government to protect more than 5 million Chinese in the United States. The right to continue using WeChat. On August 21, the US WeChat Association formally sued President Trump and Secretary of Commerce Rose in the Federal Court of the Northern District of California. The freedom of speech constitutes discrimination against the Chinese, requiring a federal judge to issue a preliminary injunction and veto the president’s executive order on WeChat.
As the attorney representing the defendant in this case (the US Department of Justice is equivalent to the attorney representing the federal government), the US Department of Justice issued a statement on this lawsuit today, clarifying that US WeChat users can continue to download and use WeChat and will not be liable for civil and legal actions in violation of the Presidential Order. criminal responsibility. The US WeChat Council told Sina Technology that the statement of the Department of Justice means that they have achieved their minimum goal, which is to ensure that Chinese Americans continue to use WeChat.
But the US WeChat Council also emphasized that the statement of the Ministry of Justice cannot represent the White House and the Ministry of Commerce, nor has it been recognized by the judge, so the legal validity is questionable. Moreover, although the Department of Justice clarified that ordinary users will not be punished for continuing to use WeChat, the US government has not explained whether Google and Apple Stores will remove WeChat, and whether American users can still use WeChat payment. How the US government will block WeChat-related transactions will still be formulated by the US Department of Commerce.
The US WeChat Association believes that the statement of the US Department of Justice does not provide sufficient assurance to US WeChat users, and they plan to continue the current litigation. On the morning of September 17, Western Time, the lawsuit will hold its first hearing.
US President Trump issued an executive order on August 6, citing the International Emergency Economic Rights Act (IEEPA) on the grounds of national security, and announced on September 20 that US companies and individuals would be prohibited from conducting any WeChat-related transactions with Tencent. transaction. According to the administrative order No. 13873 of May 15, 2019 mentioned in the administrative order, downloading and installing applications also belong to the category of "transaction". This means that the US government may block WeChat in the US. But the specific ban rules will be formulated by the US Department of Commerce.
As a result, several Chinese American lawyers formed the US WeChat Association, planning to use litigation to protect the legal rights of more than 5 million Chinese Americans to use WeChat. On August 21st, the US-Microelectronics Association filed a lawsuit in the Federal District Court for the Northern District of California, suing President Trump and Secretary of Commerce Ross. Sina Technology saw in the litigation that the plaintiff included several ordinary WeChat US users in addition to the US WeChat Association. They are both American Chinese and non-Chinese; they are both American citizens, permanent residents, and even work visa holders.
On August 28th, the US-Microelectronics Association submitted a motion for a prohibition order. On September 8, the U.S. Department of Justice also submitted a defense document against the U.S. WeChat Congress lawsuit. On September 11, the US-Microelectronics Association will submit a response document against the defense of the US Department of Justice. The Federal District Court for the Northern District of California will hold a hearing on the morning of September 17 and announce on September 20 whether it has decided to veto the President’s WeChat injunction.
US WeChat Association Chairman Cao Ying emphasized to Sina Technology that the US WeChat Association has nothing to do with Tencent, but is just an ordinary WeChat user in the United States. Meiwei Federation has no interests in any political parties, governments, or Tencent Holdings and its related institutions. Attorney Wu Shengyang, one of the initiators of the chairman of the Meiwei Federation, added, “We are positioned as ordinary users who maintain their communication rights. How Tencent is willing to lobby the US government is their own business, and they have not contacted us.”
In addition, Tencent also hired a well-known American attorney Gonzalez (Roberto Gonzalez, former deputy general counsel of the US Treasury Department) to lobby the US government on the WeChat ban. Multinational giants such as Wal-Mart in the United States have actively lobbied the White House on the WeChat ban, persuading the US government not to extend the ban to the Chinese market, preventing them from reaching Chinese consumers through WeChat in China, or ordering Apple’s Chinese app store to remove WeChat. Because banning WeChat will only cause American companies to lose the Chinese market.
美国政府在华人诉讼下让步：允许美国华人继续用微信
2020年09月17日 05:19 新浪科技
新浪科技 郑峻发自美国硅谷
美国政府再次做出让步：同意美国华人可以继续使用微信。
在美国总统特朗普8月初颁布行政命令封杀微信之后，美国华人自发组成了非盈利机构美国微信用户联合会（以下简称：美微联会），计划通过起诉美国政府来维护美国500多万华人继续使用微信的权利。8月21日，美微联会在加州北区联邦法院正式起诉总统特朗普和商务部长罗斯，8月28日，美微联会提交了禁止令申请动议，认为微信禁令侵犯了美国华人的言论自由，对华人构成了歧视，要求联邦法官下达初步禁令，否决总统关于微信的行政命令。
作为本案被告的代理律师（美国司法部相当于联邦政府的代理律师），美国司法部今天就这一诉讼发表声明，澄清美国微信用户可以继续下载和使用微信，不会承担违反总统令的民事和刑事责任。美微联会向新浪科技表示，司法部声明意味着他们实现了最低目标，即保证美国华人继续使用微信。
但美微联会也强调，司法部的声明不能代表白宫和商务部，也没有得到法官认可，因此法律效力存在疑问。而且，司法部虽然澄清普通用户继续使用微信不会受到惩罚，但美国政府也没有解释谷歌和苹果商店是否会下架微信，美国用户是否还能使用微信支付功能。美国政府具体会怎样封杀微信相关交易，依然将由美国商务部出台制定。
美微联会认为，美国司法部的声明并没有给美国微信用户足够的保证，他们计划继续推进当前的诉讼。美国西部时间9月17日上午，这一诉讼将召开首次听证会。
美国总统特朗普在8月6日颁布行政命令，以国家安全为由，援引《国际紧急经济权利法案》（IEEPA），宣布在9月20日禁止美国公司及个人与腾讯进行任何微信相关的交易。根据行政命令中提到的2019年5月15日第13873号行政命令，下载和安装应用同样属于“交易”的范畴。这意味着美国政府有可能在美国地区封杀微信。但具体的封杀细则将由美国商务部制定。
几位美国华人律师因此组建了美微联会，计划通过诉讼来维护美国500多万华人使用微信的合法权利。8月21日，美微联会在加州北区联邦地区法院正式提交诉讼，起诉总统特朗普和商务部长罗斯。新浪科技在诉讼文件中看到，原告除了美微联会之外，还包括了几位普通的微信美国用户。他们的身份既有美国华人，也有非华人；既有美国公民，也有永久居民，甚至是工作签证持有者。
8月28日，美微联会提交了禁止令申请动议。9月8日，美国司法部也提交了针对美微联会诉讼的抗辩文件。9月11日，美微联会将针对美国司法部的抗辩提交回复文件。加州北区联邦地区法院将于9月17日上午召开听证会，并于9月20日宣布是否决定暂时否决总统的微信禁止令。
美微联会主席曹英向新浪科技强调，美微联会和腾讯没有任何关系，只是在美国的普通微信用户。美微联会与任何政党、政府、或腾讯控股公司及其相关机构均无任何利益关联。美微联会主席的发起人之一的吴圣洋律师就此补充说，“我们定位是维护自己通信权利的普通用户。腾讯愿意怎么游说美国政府是他们自己的事情，他们也没有联系过我们。”
此外，腾讯也就微信禁令一事聘请了美国知名律师冈萨雷斯（Roberto Gonzalez， 美国财政部的前副总法律顾问）去游说美国政府。美国沃尔玛等跨国企业巨头已经就微信禁令一事积极游说白宫，劝说美国政府不要将禁令扩大到中国市场，阻止他们在中国通过微信接触中国消费者，或是下令苹果的中国应用商店下架微信。因为禁用微信，只会导致美国企业会失去中国市场。
The U.S. government makes concessions under the Chinese lawsuit: allowing American Chinese to continue to use WeChat
September 17, 2020 05:19 Sina Technology
Sina Technology Zheng Jun from Silicon Valley, USA
The U.S. government once again made concessions: agreeing that American Chinese can continue to use WeChat.
After US President Trump issued an executive order to block WeChat in early August, Chinese Americans spontaneously formed the non-profit organization WeChat User Association of America (hereinafter referred to as the US WeChat Association), which plans to prosecute the US government to protect more than 5 million Chinese in the United States. The right to continue using WeChat. On August 21, the US WeChat Association formally sued President Trump and Secretary of Commerce Rose in the Federal Court of the Northern District of California. The freedom of speech constitutes discrimination against the Chinese, requiring a federal judge to issue a preliminary injunction and veto the president’s executive order on WeChat.
As the attorney representing the defendant in this case (the US Department of Justice is equivalent to the attorney representing the federal government), the US Department of Justice issued a statement on this lawsuit today, clarifying that US WeChat users can continue to download and use WeChat and will not be liable for civil and legal actions in violation of the Presidential Order. criminal responsibility. The US WeChat Council told Sina Technology that the statement of the Department of Justice means that they have achieved their minimum goal, which is to ensure that Chinese Americans continue to use WeChat.
But the US WeChat Council also emphasized that the statement of the Ministry of Justice cannot represent the White House and the Ministry of Commerce, nor has it been recognized by the judge, so the legal validity is questionable. Moreover, although the Department of Justice clarified that ordinary users will not be punished for continuing to use WeChat, the US government has not explained whether Google and Apple Stores will remove WeChat, and whether American users can still use WeChat payment. How the US government will block WeChat-related transactions will still be formulated by the US Department of Commerce.
The US WeChat Association believes that the statement of the US Department of Justice does not provide sufficient assurance to US WeChat users, and they plan to continue the current litigation. On the morning of September 17, Western Time, the lawsuit will hold its first hearing.
US President Trump issued an executive order on August 6, citing the International Emergency Economic Rights Act (IEEPA) on the grounds of national security, and announced on September 20 that US companies and individuals would be prohibited from conducting any WeChat-related transactions with Tencent. transaction. According to the administrative order No. 13873 of May 15, 2019 mentioned in the administrative order, downloading and installing applications also belong to the category of "transaction". This means that the US government may block WeChat in the US. But the specific ban rules will be formulated by the US Department of Commerce.
As a result, several Chinese American lawyers formed the US WeChat Association, planning to use litigation to protect the legal rights of more than 5 million Chinese Americans to use WeChat. On August 21st, the US-Microelectronics Association filed a lawsuit in the Federal District Court for the Northern District of California, suing President Trump and Secretary of Commerce Ross. Sina Technology saw in the litigation that the plaintiff included several ordinary WeChat US users in addition to the US WeChat Association. They are both American Chinese and non-Chinese; they are both American citizens, permanent residents, and even work visa holders.
On August 28th, the US-Microelectronics Association submitted a motion for a prohibition order. On September 8, the U.S. Department of Justice also submitted a defense document against the U.S. WeChat Congress lawsuit. On September 11, the US-Microelectronics Association will submit a response document against the defense of the US Department of Justice. The Federal District Court for the Northern District of California will hold a hearing on the morning of September 17 and announce on September 20 whether it has decided to veto the President’s WeChat injunction.
US WeChat Association Chairman Cao Ying emphasized to Sina Technology that the US WeChat Association has nothing to do with Tencent, but is just an ordinary WeChat user in the United States. Meiwei Federation has no interests in any political parties, governments, or Tencent Holdings and its related institutions. Attorney Wu Shengyang, one of the initiators of the chairman of the Meiwei Federation, added, “We are positioned as ordinary users who maintain their communication rights. How Tencent is willing to lobby the US government is their own business, and they have not contacted us.”
In addition, Tencent also hired a well-known American attorney Gonzalez (Roberto Gonzalez, former deputy general counsel of the US Treasury Department) to lobby the US government on the WeChat ban. Multinational giants such as Wal-Mart in the United States have actively lobbied the White House on the WeChat ban, persuading the US government not to extend the ban to the Chinese market, preventing them from reaching Chinese consumers through WeChat in China, or ordering Apple’s Chinese app store to remove WeChat. Because banning WeChat will only cause American companies to lose the Chinese market.
