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华为又刷屏!任正非8000字访谈震撼人心!"华为现在是最佳状态"、"不死的华为"!15大观点发人深省
2019-05-27 00:16
5月26日晚间,央视新闻播放了5月21日《面对面》节目在华为总部独家专访华为创始人、CEO任正非的视频。视频中,任正非给我们带来了哪些精彩发言,我们一起来关注。
任正非精彩观点集锦:
1、我关心教育不是关心华为,是关心我们国家。如果不重视教育,实际上我们会重返贫穷的。
2、爱国,爱这个国家,希望这个国家繁荣富强,不要再让人欺负了。
3、在我们没有受到美国打压的时候,孟晚舟事件没发生的时候,我们公司是到了最危险的时候,现在是在最佳状态。
4、孟晚舟在温哥华,软禁状态。不担心孟晚舟,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来。
5、海思本来就是英雄,只是此前没让他们张扬。
6、(海思员工)怎么会憋着?回去老婆老表扬他,他老婆一天出去买好几个包,回来就说你看这包好不好看?不就是表扬他了吗?他不挣那么多钱老婆拿什么去买包?
7、总有一天,两军会爬到山顶,希望未来不和美国人拼刺刀,会去拥抱。
8、华为的钱已经够多了,有的时候方面着这个钱不挣,要让别人去挣。
9、我非常感谢美国公司,这三十年来美国公司伴随着我们公司成长,他们做出了很多无私的贡献,教明白了怎么去走路,特别是在今天危机时代,正体现了美国企业的良心。
10、学生超过老师很正常 老师不高兴打一棒也可以理解。
11、(中美贸易冲突)本来就是可能长期,我们准备打持久战的,我们没有准备打短期突击战,我们突击战也打,我们以后也可能强大,我们度过这个磨合阶段,产品切换磨合这个阶段,其实我们可能更强大了。
12、华为从来不用完人,总追求完美就没有希望。我只做长我这块板,让我再拼一块别人的长板,拼起来不就是一个高桶了?为什么要自己变成一个完整、完美的人?完美的人就是没用的人,我们公司从来不用完人。
13、如果说我们教师的待遇不高,孩子们、优秀的人都不愿意去当老师,那只会马太效应,越来越差,越来越差。优秀的人愿意当老师,只会越来越优秀,马太效应就是这个效应。
14、中美贸易的根本问题还是科技教育水平,国家一定要开放,才有未来。但是开放一定自己要强身健体,强身健体的最终是要有文化素质。
15、我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄。
以下为对话全文
做了两万枚金牌奖章,上面的题词是不死的华为
主持人:当外界都在担忧华为如此生死攸关的一个时刻,您反而有点超然事外,要谈教育,教育还是您最关心的事情,为什么?
任正非:第一点,我们从来就没觉得我们会死亡。我们已经做了两万枚金牌奖章,上面的题词是不死的华为。我们根本不认为我们会死,我们为什么把死看得那么重?所以我们认为我们梳理一下我们存在的问题,哪些问题去掉,哪些问题加强,胜利一定是属于我们的。一些高端的产品美国也没办法,因为我们完全靠自己,不靠美国。
我关心教育不是关心华为,是关心我们国家。如果不重视教育,实际上我们会重返贫穷的。因为这个社会最终要走向人工智能的,因为你可以参观一下我们的生产线,20秒钟一部手机从无到有,基本上没有什么人。未来我们几百条上千条的生产线完全是自动化的。所以我们的人的文化素质不够,至少你没受过大专或者大学以上的教育,你的英文也不好,计算机也不好,做工人的机会都不存在。
从我们公司的缩影就要看到国家放大来看这个国家,国家也要走向这一步,否则国家是没有竞争力的。
国家的未来就是教育
任正非:一个国家强大的基础是什么,比如硬件、铁路、公路、交通设施、城市建设、自来水、各种环境的硬设施。硬设施是没有灵魂的,灵魂在于文化,在于哲学,在于教育,一个国家有硬的基础设施,一定要有软的土壤,没有这些软的土壤任何庄稼不能生长。为什么别人不会提这个问题,我会提这个问题,我们真正在科学技术上是领导这个世界的,我能看见我们科学家的工作状态,我只要一出国,到了任何一个研究所,每个科学家都争着上来讲他的方程。十年、二十年以后这些东西产生的结果,比如他演示系统方程给我看,说这个将来毫米波可能会给人类提高一百倍的带宽,但是只增加两倍的钱,就是你多出两分钱,你就可以获得一百倍的带宽,所以穷人都能消费起了。
这些基础的科学走到这一步,如果没有从农村的基础教育抓起,没有从一层层的基础教育抓起,我们国家就不可能在世界这个地方竞争。因此我认为国家要充分看到这一点,国家的未来就是教育。
美国枪打出头鸟,但没想到我们早就消灭不了
主持人:您认识到了这样一个关键性的问题,但是您企业再大,也就是一家企业,您能为改变这个社会问题做些什么?
任正非:我能看到科学家真实的研究,能达到的水平,达到这个水平的难度我知道,我认为要从最基础抓起,要尊师重教,能真正这样子,将来这个国家二三十年、三五十年有希望。这个二三十年,人类一定爆发一场巨大的革命,这个革命的恐怖性人人都看到了,特别是美国看得最清楚。看得最清楚,他们才能打你这个出头鸟。他们没想到我们早就准备消灭不了,他们没想到,他们以为架起几门炮就吓唬一个国家的时代还是那个时代,可能误判了,对吧。因为抓起我们国家一个人就摧毁了我们的意志,这个也误判了。所以我认为我们国家其实从今天抓起,如果我们农村的孩子二三十年以后好多都是博士硕士了,就会为国家在新的创新领域去搏击,争取国家新的前途和命运,这才是未来。
主持人:任总,像您刚才所说的这一系列的问题,我们就以人才为例,他会影响到华为公司未来若干年的发展?
任正非:不会。
主持人:您有充分的人才储备吧。
任正非:对。我们可以在世界各国网罗最优秀的人才,比如英国建芯片工厂,我们从德国招博士过去,因为德国博士动手能力很强,我们可以在新西伯利亚大学里面把世界计算机竞赛的冠军,用五六倍的工资招进来,我们在俄罗斯提高了工资待遇,俄罗斯很多博士科学家就争着到我们这来工作。
主持人:既然如此您为什么要操一份也许在别人看来是闲心的心。
任正非:爱国,爱这个国家,希望这个国家繁荣富强,不要再让人欺负了。
华为没有到最危险时刻,现在是在最佳状态
主持人:当很多人知道我来采访您的时候,他们都希望我问的一个问题就是华为是不是已经到了最危险、最危难的时候?
任正非:不会,在我们没有受到美国打压的时候,孟晚舟事件没发生的时候,我们公司是到了最危险的时候,惰怠,大家的口袋都有钱了,不服从分配,不愿意去艰苦的地方工作,是危险状态了。现在我们公司全体振奋,个战斗力在蒸蒸日上,这个时候我们怎么到了最危险的时候呢?应该是在最佳状态了。
主持人:针对社会对华为的关切,5月21号上午任正非接受了国内媒体的集体采访,在华为方面给记者提供的资料中有这样一张图片:一架二战中被打得像筛子一样弹痕累累的飞机依然坚持飞行,终于安全返回,飞机下面是一行大字:没有伤痕累累,哪来皮糙肉厚,英雄自古多磨难。
任正非:昨天晚上半夜上网,看到这张照片,很像我们公司,一边飞一边修飞机,争取能够飞回来。
主持人:说到这架飞机,我有一个问题给您,这架飞机可能之所以能够飞回来是因为它的要害部分没有受到伤害,有没有可能有一天这架飞机在飞的时候,它的发动机、油箱、它的要害部位受到攻击,那怎么办?
任正非:现在我们要讲两个故事,第一个德国,第二个日本。大家知道德国因为不投降,最后被炸得片瓦未存。日本也受到了强烈轰炸,日本投降。结果日本没有被完全摧毁,但是大量的工业基础被摧毁了。当时有一个最著名的口号“什么都没有了,只要我的人还在,我就可以重整雄风”,德国看得清清楚楚的,没多少年德国就振兴了,而且所有房子修复了,而且修复跟过去一样。日本的经济也快速恢复了,得益于他们的人才,得益于他们的教育,得益于他们的基础。这点是最主要的。所有一切失去了,不能失去是人,人的素质、人的技能、人的信心,这一点应该是很重要的。
【背景介绍:华为发布的这张飞机图片让人联想起他们曾经发过的另外一张图片——芭蕾脚广告图,任正非曾经在达沃斯的会上说我们除了比别人少喝咖啡多干活,其实我们不比别人有什么长处就是因为我们起步太晚,成长的年限太短,积累的东西太少,我们得比别人多吃苦一点。所以我们这而一只芭蕾脚,一只很烂的脚。华为就是那么一只烂脚痛并快乐着,他解释着我们如何走向世界。而这张芭蕾脚的广告图还与任正非的女儿华为副董事长、全球首席财务官孟晚舟相关。
当地时间2018年12月1号,加拿大当局应美方要求扣留了在加拿大机场转机的孟晚舟。美国随后澄清正在寻求对孟晚舟的引渡。十天之后,2018年12月11号,加拿大法院做出裁决,批准孟晚舟的保释申请。当晚走出法庭的孟晚舟发朋友圈表示:我以华为为傲,我以祖国为傲。配图就是那张芭蕾脚的华为广告图,上面写着“伟大的背后都是苦难”。
外界担心由于不断升级的中美贸易摩擦可能会影响到孟晚舟在加拿大的引渡诉讼。】
不担心孟晚舟,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来
主持人:这一次在这样的背景下,您担不担心她未来怎么样?
任正非:不担心。因为现在我女儿本身也很乐观,她自己在自学五六门功课,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来,在监狱里面完成这个博士学历出来,她也没有闲着,每天忙得很,我每次打电话的时候,她妈接电话或者她老公接电话说忙得很。我说忙得很,赶快过来接个电话,她说很忙的,充实得很。
主持人:她现在在哪里?
任正非:在温哥华,软禁状态。她是软禁不是监禁,四周都有警察包围着的,但是生活还是自由的。
主持人:如果她这种情况持续很长的话。
任正非:关键美国和加拿大是法治国家,你要通过证据来证明她有没有罪。我们完全站在理上,世界都轰动了,加拿大最大的报纸头版头条的主要标题就写着孟晚舟事件是典型的国家违法事件。就像我们人民日报大标题写的是这个事件,你想一想我们不在理上,人家会有这样的东西吗?
海思本来就是英雄,只是此前没让他们张扬
主持人:海思在近段时间以来,在所有人的心目中几乎像一个英雄一样。
任正非:它本来就是一个英雄,你想他们奖牌拿了多少,这个职级有多高,各方面的收入有多少,我就问过他们,他们说默默无闻。我说钱少了吗?不少。那就行了吗?
主持人:您为什么要用钱这个标准来问?
任正非:开玩笑,他们也想去张扬一下,不允许,他们那个手机研发的人也跑到台上去演讲,我们就批评,老老实实回到科研室去,不要去社会上讲,让他们搞销售的去讲,你那个搞研发的不要去讲。
主持人:为什么?
任正非:踏踏实实干活,活没干好,张扬有什么结果?
主持人:对他们来说什么叫干好了?
任正非:产品。
主持人:如果他们始终憋着,能证明他们是干好还是没干好?
任正非:他们怎么会憋着?回去老婆老表扬他,他老婆一天出去买好几个包,回来就说你看这包好不好看?不就是表扬他了吗?他不挣那么多钱老婆拿什么去买包?
主持人:外界不知道。
任正非:为什么要外界知道呢?我觉得不需要外界知道。欺世盗国家领奖的人不是真发明人,不会让真的发明人去领奖,傻乎乎把他照片贴到网上?你看网上其实何庭波的照片都是假的。我最近经常看到少量的时候她的照片是真的,多数时候不是她。
主持人:别人管它叫备胎,他们自己也管自己叫备胎,您管他们叫什么?
任正非:没有叫他们备胎过,跟我们市场系统、研发系统同等重要的部门,他们就是正常拿工资、拿奖金,人人都一样戴大红花。
主持人:今天上午您也说他们了,一直就是低着头夹着尾巴做人。
任正非:憋不住了。
主持人:最后憋不住了,终于轮到他们昂起首来了。这是好事吗?
任正非:现在不能说是好事也不能说不是好事,已经发生了我们就决定了。就不要去收回。
【解说:海思2004年成立,负责华为所有的半导体芯片以及核心器件的开发和交付,在华为内部的地位尤其重要,然而这个部门却异常低调,甚至在华为的架构中,一级部门找不到海思的身影。】
华为差点100亿美元把海思卖给美国
主持人:就在当年2004年甚至更早的时候中美关系一切正常,而且国际供应链一切正常,为什么您会预想假如这个世界不正常怎么办?
任正非:跟这个东西我这么讲,我们曾经是准备用一百亿美金把这个公司卖给一个美国公司,因为我们大家都知道,我们再发展下去就和美国要碰撞,一定要去碰撞。因为卖给人家的时候,合同也签订了,所有手续办完了,那么我们穿上花衣服,就在海滩上跑步,比赛跑步,比赛打乒乓球,但是这个星期美国公司的董事会发生变化,新董事长否决了这项收购。那么好,我们回来再讨论,我们还再卖不卖,少壮派是激进派,坚决不再卖了,那不再卖我们就说十年以后我们就和美国在山头上遭遇,遭遇的时候我们肯定是输家,我们拼不过他们刺刀,他们爬南坡的时候是带着牛肉、罐头、咖啡在爬坡,我们这边背着干粮爬坡,可能爬到山上我们还不如人家。好,那我们就要有思想准备,那思想准备我们就准备备胎计划出来了。当然今天有人也说5G将来会不会分裂成两种标准,西方一种标准、东方一种标准,我认为是不会的,因为人类好不容易统一了一个标准,为共同的全球云社会服务,这样两种标准就是两朵云,这个东西将来是很难交融。对吧?
希望未来不和美国人拼刺刀,会去拥抱
在这样的前提下,美国今天把我们从北坡往下打,我们顺着雪往下滑一点,再起来爬坡。但是总有一天,两军会爬到山顶。这时我们决不会和美国人拼刺刀,我们会去拥抱,我们欢呼,为人类数字化、信息化服务胜利大会师,多种标准胜利会师,我们理想是为人类服务,又不是为了赚钱,又不是为了消灭别人,大家共同能实现为人类服务不更好吗?
不是有人提过吗?既然有备胎你为什么早不用呢?我们就是为了西方公司的利益,我们不让西方的利益被挤榨了,朋友就变多了。你看我压制住公司不要做8K电视机,日本、韩国所有的电视机用的是我们的芯片,用的是我们的系统。
华为的钱已经够多了
主持人:可能很多人就不大能理解刚才您说的这样一句话,有的时候方面着这个钱不挣,要让别人去挣,这是什么样的考虑?
任正非:我们已经够多了,要不要讲讲把他们常务董事会去年利润太多的检查拿来给你看看,我还没批示。
主持人:这太炫富了吧?
任正非:不是,战略投入不够,我们战略投入不够,我们战略投入够一点,那我们今天的困难就少一点。
主持人:您这里面没有炫富的意思?
任正非:没有。
主持人:没听出来?
任正非:没有。
主持人:那您怎么说钱多了的事?
任正非:就像你家的土地,牛粪、猪粪撒在地里面一样的,土壤肥力好了是你们家过几年庄稼就可以多收,我们现在讲要加大战略投入就是这个原则。
【解说:如今海思旗下已经拥有自主知识产权的五大系列芯片,分别运用在智能设备、数据中心、人工智能等不同领域,其中麒麟芯片已经成为华为手机构筑竞争力的重要武器,一些独立分析师认为,华为的芯片研发能力已经居于世界前列,也正是因为有了海思的备胎,任正非表示美国禁令对华为的影响很小。】
主持人:我们就按照一切惯常的发展而没有出现中间的这种意外的话,在您的构想中海思它的存在应当是一种什么情况?
任正非:现在海思有大量的基础理论,这个基础理论也是战略研究院在外面撒胡椒面形成的,它没有基础理论它咋能走到这个程度。
主持人:是不是它们永远不启用才是一个正常的、好的状态?
任正非:一直也在用,没有说不用,只是说现在可能就是他们挺身而出,主要以他们供应为主体。如果说正式断了以后,如果是美国继续恢复供应,他们还是继续少量生产。
主持人:您觉得还能有这天吗?
任正非:也许,也许。美国走走,发现走错了,它就自己纠正了。
【解说:也就在华为被列为所谓的实体清单的第四天,美国商务部又发布了为期90天的临时通用许可,推迟对华为及其附属公司现有在美产品和服务所实施的交易禁令,而与此同时出现了一些美国供应商开足马力赶在禁令前加班加点给华为供货的现象。】
华为已经准备好了 “90天”对我们已经没多大意义
主持人:换句话说华为有了90天的临时执照,您怎么看这90天,90天您可以做什么?另外,如果这个新闻是真的,这个90天又被取消了,您又怎么看待这种反复?
任正非:这90天已经对我们没有多大意义,因为我们已经准备好了,就不需要90天,对吧。但是借此我要来讲一讲,我非常感谢美国公司,这三十年来美国公司伴随着我们公司成长,他们做出了很多无私的贡献,教明白了怎么去走路,特别是在今天危机时代,正体现了美国企业的良心。应该是前天晚上徐直军在半夜,我记不得了大致两三点钟,打电话给我,报告了美国企业的努力,正确对我们的情况,我流泪了,我感到得道多助、失道寡助。
主持人:您曾经第一句话就说要感谢美国。
任正非:对。
学生超过老师很正常老师不高兴打一棒也可以理解
主持人:因为是他们教给我们怎么走路,怎么能够成长,今天让您,让华为公司感受到这个世界的复杂里面有不公的也恰恰是这个国家。
任正非:从来都是学生超过老师,这不是很正常的?学生超过老师,老师不高兴,打一棒,是可以理解的。世界流体力学和空气动力学是一对父子发明的,叫伯努利,伯努利这个父亲嫉妒自己儿子在空气动力学上超过他,残酷地迫害他的儿子,他的儿子是他的学生,美国是我们的老师,看到学生超过它不舒服也是存在的,没关系。写论文的时候加一个名字,把它放在前面就行了,我放在后面不就完了吗?
主持人:您准备怎么去面对未来也许会长期存在的这个中美贸易冲突?
任正非:这本来就是可能长期,我们准备打持久战的,我们没有准备打短期突击战,我们突击战也打,我们以后也可能强大,我们度过这个磨合阶段,产品切换磨合这个阶段,其实我们可能更强大了。
【解说:在华为总公司接待大厅的大屏幕上,循环播放华为出品的《基础研究与基础教育》的公益广告片,2018年10月28号起这则公益广告片开始投放媒体,任正非想通过尽可能多的渠道来呼吁社会各界重视基础教育,呼吁国家加强基础科学的研究和创新。】
华为从来不用完人,总追求完美就没有希望
主持人:您反对的是那种盲目的在补短板的过程中,这种所谓的知识产权的创新。
任正非:坚决反对,我就是最典型的,就是短板不行。我在家里经常太太、女儿都骂,这个笨得要死,笨得要死。我这一生就是说短的,去你的,我不管了,我只做长我这块板,让我再拼一块别人的长板,拼起来不就是一个高桶了?为什么要自己变成一个完整、完美的人?完美的人就是没用的人,我们公司从来不用完人,一看这个人总是追求完美,就知道他没有希望,这个人有缺点,缺点很多,这个人好好观察一下,在哪方面能重用他一下,说他不会管人,就派个赵刚去做政委就行了。
我就举个例子,俄罗斯有个科学家、小活字、大数学家,我今天早上跟他们说,你们有合适的女朋友给他介绍一下,这小伙子不会谈恋爱,就是只会做数学,他到我们公司来十几年天天在玩电脑,不知道在干什么。然后我们管五万研发人员的人到莫斯科去看他,打个招呼,一句话就完了。我给他发这个院士,他是院士,我给他发那个牌牌的时候,跟他讲话,嗯,嗯,嗯,三个嗯完了,没有了。
主持人:他听不懂中国话吧?
任正非:那有翻译,不需要懂中国话的问题。就是说他不善于打交道,他十几年默默无闻在干啥我们并不知道。突然告诉我,我们把2G到3G突破了,这个算法突破了,一讲,我们马上在上海进行实验,实验确实证明了,我们就这么一下就领先全世界。
主持人:所以说这就是你们华为公司的这个长板就长在这了。
任正非:对,基础理论太冷板凳了,一般人都不愿意坐的,那不轰轰烈烈的。
【解说:在任正非的话语体系里,与基础研究一直相提并论的是基础教育,他认为我国目前基础研究方面水平不够,和基础教育跟不上直接相关。为此,他曾自费请权威机构的专家进行中国基础教育状况的调查研究。】
主持人:您为什么要做这样的调查?
任正非:我就希望我们国家繁荣富强,希望国家能实现自己国家的梦想。
主持人:今天记者会上您特别提出教育,尤其是基础教育是国家层面要考虑的事情。
任正非:是党和国家的责任。
主持人:但是您作为一个企业家,为什么要做这样的调研?
任正非:它有一个权威性,要做一个这样的报告,中央会相信,而且他们调查了全世界的教育,他们有非常深刻的理解和认识。
主持人:为什么您是以您自己的钱资助他们去做这件事?而没有动用公司的钱?
任正非:我跟您讲,我动用公司的钱是集体的钱,这是要有流程和表决的,我动用自己的钱管不着。比如说我最近去了普洱市,它把地方文化搞得很有特色,我那天看了一场一个村庄的演出,我很感慨,我说那我得送点什么呢?我就送你五台钢琴,我就发五台钢琴。我给贵州省的捐献大概有上千台钢琴了,也是我自己捐献的。我希望从青少年开始,就不要单纯就是数理化,应该有全面的思乡曲发展,奠定一个广阔的文化基础,对吧。
【解说:任正非对于教育有着一份特殊的情感这和他在偏远地区做了一辈子教师的父母有关,因为在那个特殊的年代里的遭遇,父母曾经叮嘱任正非兄妹今生今世不准当老师。】
再穷不能穷教师,再穷也要对未来投资
主持人:您的父母曾经告诉您一辈子不要做老师。
任正非:是。
主持人:但是您回头看您这一辈子几乎一直在关注教育,为什么?
任正非:因为我父母是乡村教师,父母跟我们讲今生今世不准当老师,对我们人生选择,你做啥都不管,但是今生今世不准做老师,我们印象很深刻,果然我们后来都没有做老师的。但是老师是人类灵魂的工程师,没有老师这个社会怎么办?问题就要改变对教师的政策。所以我才说再穷不能穷教师,就是说再穷也要对未来投资,就像我们战略投资一样,我们每年给大学那些教授支持的钱数额都是巨大的。说我有实力,是因为我对未来有投资。如果我们国家对教育也是这样,教育也是国家的未来,如果我们的教育像日本一样,像北欧一样,像德国一样,像这一样,那我们国家还担心什么和美国竞争的问题?今年稍微不行,明年就出来几个优秀的人,就领着又冲上上甘岭了。如果说我们教师的待遇不高,孩子们、优秀的人都不愿意去当老师,那只会马太效应,越来越差,越来越差。优秀的人愿意当老师,只会越来越优秀,马太效应就是这个效应,对吧。
主持人:所以在您看来再穷不能穷教师和再穷不能穷未来是一个道理?
任正非:一样,我们可以讲,在日本一个小学教师娶一个电影明星做太太,但以前是有名字的,现在我不讲这个名字了,很正常,不觉得不荣耀。当然我们国家七十年来有巨大进步,这三十年也有巨大改善,对吧?教师的生活也有大的进步。但是我们要看到他们是我们祖国的未来,他们是国家未来,他们担负着花朵,给花朵浇水的人。我们都不给花朵浇水的人一种事业心、一种使命感的话,他就少浇两次水,花枯萎了,我们不就是一个乔布斯少掉了吗?
中美贸易的根本问题是科技教育水平
【解说:在中美贸易战升级,华为遭受明显不公正打压的当下,任正非对国家基础研究、基础教育的焦虑愈加强烈。】
主持人:我们把这个谈教育的背景再放得宽一点,如果教育是这样的现状的话,我们怎么去面对现在以及未来很有可能持续的中美贸易争端?
任正非:我就觉得中美贸易的根本问题还是科技教育水平,国家一定要开放,才有未来。但是开放一定自己要强身健体,强身健体的最终是要有文化素质。
华为的未来不用我想,我在华为已经是个傀儡了
主持人:这样我就能理解为什么您在大家都再灌注中美贸易争端,在关注这个背景下,华为的未来的时候,您不关心这个,您关心的是我们的教育。
任正非:对,华为的未来不用我想,我们下面的人就应该想得比较清楚,他们只是希望得到我支持一下就行了。我不需要具体地去操心华为太多的事情。我在华为已经是个傀儡了,这傀儡就是人家来问你一下就算数,不问我,我就不知道。
主持人:但是既然您如此定位自己在华为的位置,您为什么不像自己所希望的那样赶紧退休去上一个数学的学位呢?
任正非:我觉得这个现在很难回答你。
主持人:闲下来可以养花养动物,为什么您要养数学?
任正非:你想想我将来会是养花的人吗?首先问我太太,她信不信我养花,她不相信我会养花,我说我退休根本不相信我,你别说那个话,我根本不相信你会退休,你不干到走不动你就不会退出舞台的。
主持人:那换句话说您想学数学这个愿望这被子可能实现不了?
任正非:有可能。
我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄
主持人:美国压境的时候觉得您是民族英雄,您愿意接受这样的称号吗?
任正非:不接受,狗熊。我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄。任何时候我们是在做一个商业性的东西,商品的买卖不代表政治态度,这个时代变了,怎么买苹果手机就是不爱国?哪能这么看?那还开放给人干什么。商品就是商品,商品是个人喜好构成的,这根本没啥任何关系。媒体炒作有时候偏激,偏激的思想容易产生民粹主义,对一个国家是没好处的。
主持人:那您觉得您希望民众现在用一种什么样的心态面对华为这样的公司?
任正非:不需要,希望他们没心态,平平静静、老老实实种地去,该干什么干什么,多为国家产一个土豆就是对国家的贡献;多说一句话,浪费别人的耳朵,对吧?
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Huawei has also screened! Ren Zhengfei's 8000-word interview shocked people! "Huawei is the best state now", "Undead Huawei"! 15 major views are thought-provoking
2019-05-27 00:16
On the evening of May 26th, CCTV News broadcasted a video of the face-to-face program on May 21 at the Huawei headquarters exclusive interview with Huawei founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei. In the video, Ren Zhengfei brought us some wonderful speeches, let's pay attention to it.
Ren Zhengfei's wonderful views:
1. I care that education is not about Huawei and about our country. If we do not pay attention to education, we will actually return to poverty.
2, patriotism, love this country, I hope this country is prosperous and strong, and no longer let people bully.
3. When we were not under pressure from the United States, when the Mengxi boat incident did not happen, our company was at the most dangerous time, and now it is at its best.
4, Meng night boat in Vancouver, under house arrest. Not worried about Meng Xingzhou, she is going to read a "Doctor in Prison" out.
5, Hai Si was originally a hero, but did not let them publicize.
6. How can (Haisi employees) squat? Going back to his wife to praise him, his wife went out to buy a few bags a day, came back and said that you look at this package is not good? Isn't it to praise him? He doesn't earn so much money, what does his wife buy to buy?
7. One day, the two armies will climb to the top of the mountain. I hope that in the future, they will not fight with the Americans and will hug.
8. Huawei's money is already enough. Sometimes, if you don't earn money, you must let others earn.
9. I am very grateful to the American company. Over the past 30 years, American companies have grown along with our company. They have made a lot of selfless contributions. They have taught how to walk, especially in today’s crisis era, which reflects the conscience of American companies. .
10, the student is more normal than the teacher. The teacher is not happy to play a stick can understand.
11. (China-US trade conflict) It is likely that it will be long-term. We are prepared to fight a protracted war. We are not prepared to fight short-term assaults. We will also fight assaults. We may also be strong in the future. We will spend this phase of integration and product switching. At this stage, in fact, we may be stronger.
12, Huawei never has to be perfect, there is no hope for the pursuit of perfection. I only do this long board, let me fight another piece of other people's longboard, isn't it a high bucket? Why should you become a complete and perfect person? The perfect person is a useless person, our company never has to be perfect.
13. If the treatment of our teachers is not high, children and excellent people are not willing to be teachers. It will only be a Matthew effect, getting worse and worse. Good people are willing to be teachers, they will only get better and better, and the Matthew effect is this effect.
14. The fundamental problem of Sino-US trade is the level of science and technology education. The country must be open to have a future. However, opening up must be to keep fit, and the ultimate in physical fitness is to have a cultural quality.
15. I am not a hero at all. I never want to be a hero.
The full text of the dialogue below
Made 20,000 gold medals, the above inscription is undead Huawei
Moderator: When the outside world is worried about the moment when Huawei is so life-and-death, you are a bit detached. It is important to talk about education and education. Why?
Ren Zhengfei: First, we never felt that we would die. We have already made 20,000 gold medals, the above inscription is undead Huawei. We don't think we will die at all. Why do we see death so heavy? Therefore, we think that we can sort out the problems we have, which problems are removed, and which problems are strengthened. Victory must belong to us. There are no ways for some high-end products in the United States, because we are totally dependent on ourselves and not on the United States.
I care that education is not about Huawei and about our country. If we do not pay attention to education, we will actually return to poverty. Because this society will eventually go to artificial intelligence, because you can visit our production line, 20 seconds a mobile phone from scratch, basically no one. In the future, we have hundreds of thousands of production lines that are completely automated. Therefore, the cultural quality of our people is not enough. At least you have not been educated in college or university. Your English is not good, your computer is not good, and the opportunities for workers are not there.
From the epitome of our company, we must see the country zooming in to see this country, and the country must move toward this step, otherwise the country will be uncompetitive.
The future of the country is education
Ren Zhengfei: What is the strong foundation of a country, such as hardware, railways, highways, transportation facilities, urban construction, running water, and hard facilities in various environments. Hard facilities are soulless, souls are in culture, philosophy is in education, and a country has a hard infrastructure. There must be soft soil. Without these soft soils, no crops can grow. Why do people not mention this question, I will raise this question, we really lead the world in science and technology, I can see the working state of our scientists, I just go abroad, go to any research institute, every scientist Strive to talk about his equation. After ten or twenty years, the results of these things, such as his demonstration of the system equations, show that this future millimeter wave may give humans a hundred times the bandwidth, but only double the money, that is, you are more For two cents, you can get a hundred times the bandwidth, so the poor can consume.
These basic sciences have come to this step. Without starting from the basic education in rural areas and not starting from the basic education of layers, our country cannot compete in this part of the world. Therefore, I believe that the country must fully see this, and the future of the country is education.
The United States shot the birds, but I did not expect that we could not eliminate it.
Moderator: You recognize such a key issue, but your company is bigger, that is, a company. What can you do to change this social problem?
Ren Zhengfei: I can see the true research of scientists, the level that can be achieved, and the difficulty of reaching this level. I know that I believe that we must start from the most basic, and we must respect the teacher and teach it. This can be true. Years, thirty or fifty years have hope. In the past two or three decades, mankind must have erupted a huge revolution. The horror of this revolution has been seen by all, especially the United States. Seeing the best, they can beat you this bird. They didn't expect us to be ready to disappear. They didn't expect that they thought that setting up a few guns would scare a country's era or that era, and it may be misjudged, right. Because the arrest of our country alone has destroyed our will, and this has been misjudged. Therefore, I think that our country is actually starting from today. If our rural children are many doctoral masters after 20 or 30 years, they will fight for the country in new areas of innovation and strive for a new future and destiny. It is the future.
Moderator: Ren Zong, like the series of questions you just mentioned, we take talent as an example. Will it affect the development of Huawei in the coming years?
Ren Zhengfei: No.
Moderator: You have a full talent pool.
Ren Zhengfei: Right. We can recruit the best talents in the world, such as the British chip factory. We recruited doctors from Germany. Because German doctors have strong hands-on ability, we can use the world computer competition champion in the University of Novosibirsk five or six times. The wages are recruited, we have raised wages in Russia, and many Russian doctoral scientists are vying to work for us.
Moderator: In this case, why do you want to exercise a heart that may be seen by others.
Ren Zhengfei: Patriotism, love this country, I hope that this country will be prosperous and strong, and no longer bully.
Huawei did not go to the most dangerous moment, now it is at its best.
Moderator: When many people know that I am coming to interview you, they all hope that the question I ask is whether Huawei has reached the most dangerous and dangerous situation.
Ren Zhengfei: No, when we were not suppressed by the United States, when the Mengxi boat incident did not happen, our company was at the most dangerous time, lazy, everyone’s pockets have money, disobeying distribution, not willing to go. Working in a difficult place is a dangerous state. Now our company is full of excitement, and the fighting power is booming. How did we get to the most dangerous time at this time? It should be at its best.
Moderator: In response to social concerns about Huawei, Ren Zhengfei accepted a collective interview with the domestic media on the morning of May 21st. In the information provided to reporters by Huawei, there is such a picture: a warhead that was played like a sieve in World War II. The tired plane still insisted on flying, and finally returned safely. There is a line of big characters under the plane: there are no scars, and the skin is thick and thick, and the hero has been suffering since ancient times.
Ren Zhengfei: I went online in the middle of the night last night. I saw this photo, very much like our company. I flew while repairing the plane and tried to fly back.
Moderator: When it comes to this plane, I have a problem for you. This plane may be able to fly back because its vital part is not hurt. Is it possible that one day when the plane is flying, its What should I do if the engine, the fuel tank, and its vital parts are attacked?
Ren Zhengfei: Now we have two stories, the first Germany and the second Japan. Everyone knows that because Germany did not surrender, it was finally blown up. Japan also suffered a strong bombing and Japan surrendered. As a result, Japan was not completely destroyed, but a large industrial base was destroyed. At that time, there was one of the most famous slogans, "Nothing is gone. As long as my people are still there, I can rebuild the glory." Germany can see clearly that Germany has not revived for many years, and all the houses have been restored. And the repair is the same as in the past. Japan’s economy has also recovered rapidly, thanks to their talents, thanks to their education and thanks to their foundation. This is the main point. It is very important that everything is lost and that it cannot be lost, the quality of people, the skills of people, and the confidence of people.
[Background: The image of this aircraft released by Huawei is reminiscent of another picture they have sent - the ballet foot advertising map. Ren Zhengfei once said at the meeting in Davos that we have to drink more coffee than others. Live, in fact, we have no advantage over others because we started too late, the growth period is too short, and there are too few things to accumulate. We have to eat more than others. So we have a ballet foot and a bad foot. Huawei is so bad and happy, he explains how we go to the world. The advertising picture of this ballet foot is also related to Ren Zhengfei’s daughter, Huawei’s vice chairman and global chief financial officer, Meng Zhouzhou.
On December 1, 2018, local time, the Canadian authorities detained Meng’s boat at the Canadian airport at the request of the US. The United States subsequently clarified that it was seeking extradition of Meng Xiazhou. Ten days later, on December 11, 2018, the Canadian court ruled to approve the application for bail of Meng Wanzhou. Meng Xiazhou’s circle of friends who walked out of the court that night said: I am proud of Huawei, and I am proud of my motherland. The picture is the Huawei advertising picture of the ballet foot, which says "The greatness is suffering."
The outside world is worried that the escalating Sino-US trade friction may affect Meng’s extradition lawsuit in Canada. 】
Not worried about Meng Zhouzhou, she is going to read a "Prisoner in Prison" out
Moderator: This time in this context, you are not worried about her future?
Ren Zhengfei: Don't worry. Because now my daughter is also very optimistic, she is self-study five or six homework, she is going to read a "doctor in prison" out, complete this doctoral degree in prison, she is not idle, busy every day, I Every time she called, her mother answered the phone or her husband answered the phone and said that she was very busy. I said that I was very busy. I came over and took a call. She said that she was very busy and very fulfilling.
Moderator: Where is she now?
Ren Zhengfei: In Vancouver, under house arrest. She is under house arrest and not imprisoned. She is surrounded by police, but life is still free.
Moderator: If she continues this situation for a long time.
Ren Zhengfei: The key US and Canada are the rule of law. You have to prove through evidence that she is guilty. We are completely in the right place, and the world is sensational. The main headline of Canada’s largest newspaper headline reads that the Meng Zhouzhou incident is a typical national violation. Just like the headline of our People’s Daily is written about this incident, do you think that we are not rational, do people have such a thing?
Hai Si was originally a hero, but he did not let them publicize before.
Moderator: Hai Si has been almost like a hero in the minds of everyone in recent times.
Ren Zhengfei: It was originally a hero. How much do you want their medals to take? How high is this rank and how much income is in all aspects. I asked them, they said they were unknown. I said that the money is less? Quite a lot. Is that OK?
Moderator: Why do you want to use the standard of money to ask?
Ren Zhengfei: Just kidding, they also want to publicize, not allowed, their mobile phone research and development people also ran to the stage to give a speech, we criticized, honestly go back to the research room, do not go to the community to let them sell Let's talk about it, don't talk about your research and development.
Moderator: Why?
Ren Zhengfei: Working hard, not doing well, what is the result of Zhang Yang?
Moderator: What is it for them?
Ren Zhengfei: Product.
Moderator: If they are always squatting, can they prove that they are doing well or not doing well?
Ren Zhengfei: How can they lie? Going back to his wife to praise him, his wife went out to buy a few bags a day, came back and said that you look at this package is not good? Isn't it to praise him? He doesn't earn so much money, what does his wife buy to buy?
Moderator: The outside world does not know.
Ren Zhengfei: Why do you know the outside world? I don't think it needs to be known outside. The person who won the award in the country is not a real inventor. Will it not let the real inventor go to the award, and stupidly put his photo on the Internet? You see that the photos of He Tingbo are fake on the Internet. I have recently seen a small amount of her photos are true, most of the time is not her.
Moderator: Others call it a spare tire. They also call themselves a spare tire. What do you call them?
Ren Zhengfei: There is no department that asks them to have a spare tire. It is as important as our market system and R&D system. They are usually getting wages and getting bonuses. Everyone is wearing the same red flowers.
Moderator: You said them this morning, and you have been holding your tail with your head down.
Ren Zhengfei: I can't stop it.
Moderator: In the end, I couldn't help myself. Finally, it was their turn to start up. Is this a good thing?
Ren Zhengfei: It is not a good thing to say that it is a good thing at the moment. If it has already happened, we will decide. Just don't take it back.
[Explanation: Haisi was established in 2004, responsible for the development and delivery of all semiconductor chips and core devices of Huawei. The position within Huawei is particularly important. However, this department is extremely low-key. Even in Huawei's architecture, the first-level department can't find it. To Hai Si's figure. 】
Huawei almost sold $10 billion to Hess
Moderator: Just in 2004 or even earlier, Sino-US relations are all normal, and the international supply chain is all right, why?
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华为又刷屏!任正非8000字访谈震撼人心!"华为现在是最佳状态"、"不死的华为"!15大观点发人深省
2019-05-27 00:16
5月26日晚间,央视新闻播放了5月21日《面对面》节目在华为总部独家专访华为创始人、CEO任正非的视频。视频中,任正非给我们带来了哪些精彩发言,我们一起来关注。
任正非精彩观点集锦:
1、我关心教育不是关心华为,是关心我们国家。如果不重视教育,实际上我们会重返贫穷的。
2、爱国,爱这个国家,希望这个国家繁荣富强,不要再让人欺负了。
3、在我们没有受到美国打压的时候,孟晚舟事件没发生的时候,我们公司是到了最危险的时候,现在是在最佳状态。
4、孟晚舟在温哥华,软禁状态。不担心孟晚舟,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来。
5、海思本来就是英雄,只是此前没让他们张扬。
6、(海思员工)怎么会憋着?回去老婆老表扬他,他老婆一天出去买好几个包,回来就说你看这包好不好看?不就是表扬他了吗?他不挣那么多钱老婆拿什么去买包?
7、总有一天,两军会爬到山顶,希望未来不和美国人拼刺刀,会去拥抱。
8、华为的钱已经够多了,有的时候方面着这个钱不挣,要让别人去挣。
9、我非常感谢美国公司,这三十年来美国公司伴随着我们公司成长,他们做出了很多无私的贡献,教明白了怎么去走路,特别是在今天危机时代,正体现了美国企业的良心。
10、学生超过老师很正常 老师不高兴打一棒也可以理解。
11、(中美贸易冲突)本来就是可能长期,我们准备打持久战的,我们没有准备打短期突击战,我们突击战也打,我们以后也可能强大,我们度过这个磨合阶段,产品切换磨合这个阶段,其实我们可能更强大了。
12、华为从来不用完人,总追求完美就没有希望。我只做长我这块板,让我再拼一块别人的长板,拼起来不就是一个高桶了?为什么要自己变成一个完整、完美的人?完美的人就是没用的人,我们公司从来不用完人。
13、如果说我们教师的待遇不高,孩子们、优秀的人都不愿意去当老师,那只会马太效应,越来越差,越来越差。优秀的人愿意当老师,只会越来越优秀,马太效应就是这个效应。
14、中美贸易的根本问题还是科技教育水平,国家一定要开放,才有未来。但是开放一定自己要强身健体,强身健体的最终是要有文化素质。
15、我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄。
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做了两万枚金牌奖章,上面的题词是不死的华为
主持人:当外界都在担忧华为如此生死攸关的一个时刻,您反而有点超然事外,要谈教育,教育还是您最关心的事情,为什么?
任正非:第一点,我们从来就没觉得我们会死亡。我们已经做了两万枚金牌奖章,上面的题词是不死的华为。我们根本不认为我们会死,我们为什么把死看得那么重?所以我们认为我们梳理一下我们存在的问题,哪些问题去掉,哪些问题加强,胜利一定是属于我们的。一些高端的产品美国也没办法,因为我们完全靠自己,不靠美国。
我关心教育不是关心华为,是关心我们国家。如果不重视教育,实际上我们会重返贫穷的。因为这个社会最终要走向人工智能的,因为你可以参观一下我们的生产线,20秒钟一部手机从无到有,基本上没有什么人。未来我们几百条上千条的生产线完全是自动化的。所以我们的人的文化素质不够,至少你没受过大专或者大学以上的教育,你的英文也不好,计算机也不好,做工人的机会都不存在。
从我们公司的缩影就要看到国家放大来看这个国家,国家也要走向这一步,否则国家是没有竞争力的。
国家的未来就是教育
任正非:一个国家强大的基础是什么,比如硬件、铁路、公路、交通设施、城市建设、自来水、各种环境的硬设施。硬设施是没有灵魂的,灵魂在于文化,在于哲学,在于教育,一个国家有硬的基础设施,一定要有软的土壤,没有这些软的土壤任何庄稼不能生长。为什么别人不会提这个问题,我会提这个问题,我们真正在科学技术上是领导这个世界的,我能看见我们科学家的工作状态,我只要一出国,到了任何一个研究所,每个科学家都争着上来讲他的方程。十年、二十年以后这些东西产生的结果,比如他演示系统方程给我看,说这个将来毫米波可能会给人类提高一百倍的带宽,但是只增加两倍的钱,就是你多出两分钱,你就可以获得一百倍的带宽,所以穷人都能消费起了。
这些基础的科学走到这一步,如果没有从农村的基础教育抓起,没有从一层层的基础教育抓起,我们国家就不可能在世界这个地方竞争。因此我认为国家要充分看到这一点,国家的未来就是教育。
美国枪打出头鸟,但没想到我们早就消灭不了
主持人:您认识到了这样一个关键性的问题,但是您企业再大,也就是一家企业,您能为改变这个社会问题做些什么?
任正非:我能看到科学家真实的研究,能达到的水平,达到这个水平的难度我知道,我认为要从最基础抓起,要尊师重教,能真正这样子,将来这个国家二三十年、三五十年有希望。这个二三十年,人类一定爆发一场巨大的革命,这个革命的恐怖性人人都看到了,特别是美国看得最清楚。看得最清楚,他们才能打你这个出头鸟。他们没想到我们早就准备消灭不了,他们没想到,他们以为架起几门炮就吓唬一个国家的时代还是那个时代,可能误判了,对吧。因为抓起我们国家一个人就摧毁了我们的意志,这个也误判了。所以我认为我们国家其实从今天抓起,如果我们农村的孩子二三十年以后好多都是博士硕士了,就会为国家在新的创新领域去搏击,争取国家新的前途和命运,这才是未来。
主持人:任总,像您刚才所说的这一系列的问题,我们就以人才为例,他会影响到华为公司未来若干年的发展?
任正非:不会。
主持人:您有充分的人才储备吧。
任正非:对。我们可以在世界各国网罗最优秀的人才,比如英国建芯片工厂,我们从德国招博士过去,因为德国博士动手能力很强,我们可以在新西伯利亚大学里面把世界计算机竞赛的冠军,用五六倍的工资招进来,我们在俄罗斯提高了工资待遇,俄罗斯很多博士科学家就争着到我们这来工作。
主持人:既然如此您为什么要操一份也许在别人看来是闲心的心。
任正非:爱国,爱这个国家,希望这个国家繁荣富强,不要再让人欺负了。
华为没有到最危险时刻,现在是在最佳状态
主持人:当很多人知道我来采访您的时候,他们都希望我问的一个问题就是华为是不是已经到了最危险、最危难的时候?
任正非:不会,在我们没有受到美国打压的时候,孟晚舟事件没发生的时候,我们公司是到了最危险的时候,惰怠,大家的口袋都有钱了,不服从分配,不愿意去艰苦的地方工作,是危险状态了。现在我们公司全体振奋,个战斗力在蒸蒸日上,这个时候我们怎么到了最危险的时候呢?应该是在最佳状态了。
主持人:针对社会对华为的关切,5月21号上午任正非接受了国内媒体的集体采访,在华为方面给记者提供的资料中有这样一张图片:一架二战中被打得像筛子一样弹痕累累的飞机依然坚持飞行,终于安全返回,飞机下面是一行大字:没有伤痕累累,哪来皮糙肉厚,英雄自古多磨难。
任正非:昨天晚上半夜上网,看到这张照片,很像我们公司,一边飞一边修飞机,争取能够飞回来。
主持人:说到这架飞机,我有一个问题给您,这架飞机可能之所以能够飞回来是因为它的要害部分没有受到伤害,有没有可能有一天这架飞机在飞的时候,它的发动机、油箱、它的要害部位受到攻击,那怎么办?
任正非:现在我们要讲两个故事,第一个德国,第二个日本。大家知道德国因为不投降,最后被炸得片瓦未存。日本也受到了强烈轰炸,日本投降。结果日本没有被完全摧毁,但是大量的工业基础被摧毁了。当时有一个最著名的口号“什么都没有了,只要我的人还在,我就可以重整雄风”,德国看得清清楚楚的,没多少年德国就振兴了,而且所有房子修复了,而且修复跟过去一样。日本的经济也快速恢复了,得益于他们的人才,得益于他们的教育,得益于他们的基础。这点是最主要的。所有一切失去了,不能失去是人,人的素质、人的技能、人的信心,这一点应该是很重要的。
【背景介绍:华为发布的这张飞机图片让人联想起他们曾经发过的另外一张图片——芭蕾脚广告图,任正非曾经在达沃斯的会上说我们除了比别人少喝咖啡多干活,其实我们不比别人有什么长处就是因为我们起步太晚,成长的年限太短,积累的东西太少,我们得比别人多吃苦一点。所以我们这而一只芭蕾脚,一只很烂的脚。华为就是那么一只烂脚痛并快乐着,他解释着我们如何走向世界。而这张芭蕾脚的广告图还与任正非的女儿华为副董事长、全球首席财务官孟晚舟相关。
当地时间2018年12月1号,加拿大当局应美方要求扣留了在加拿大机场转机的孟晚舟。美国随后澄清正在寻求对孟晚舟的引渡。十天之后,2018年12月11号,加拿大法院做出裁决,批准孟晚舟的保释申请。当晚走出法庭的孟晚舟发朋友圈表示:我以华为为傲,我以祖国为傲。配图就是那张芭蕾脚的华为广告图,上面写着“伟大的背后都是苦难”。
外界担心由于不断升级的中美贸易摩擦可能会影响到孟晚舟在加拿大的引渡诉讼。】
不担心孟晚舟,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来
主持人:这一次在这样的背景下,您担不担心她未来怎么样?
任正非:不担心。因为现在我女儿本身也很乐观,她自己在自学五六门功课,她准备读一个“狱中博士”出来,在监狱里面完成这个博士学历出来,她也没有闲着,每天忙得很,我每次打电话的时候,她妈接电话或者她老公接电话说忙得很。我说忙得很,赶快过来接个电话,她说很忙的,充实得很。
主持人:她现在在哪里?
任正非:在温哥华,软禁状态。她是软禁不是监禁,四周都有警察包围着的,但是生活还是自由的。
主持人:如果她这种情况持续很长的话。
任正非:关键美国和加拿大是法治国家,你要通过证据来证明她有没有罪。我们完全站在理上,世界都轰动了,加拿大最大的报纸头版头条的主要标题就写着孟晚舟事件是典型的国家违法事件。就像我们人民日报大标题写的是这个事件,你想一想我们不在理上,人家会有这样的东西吗?
海思本来就是英雄,只是此前没让他们张扬
主持人:海思在近段时间以来,在所有人的心目中几乎像一个英雄一样。
任正非:它本来就是一个英雄,你想他们奖牌拿了多少,这个职级有多高,各方面的收入有多少,我就问过他们,他们说默默无闻。我说钱少了吗?不少。那就行了吗?
主持人:您为什么要用钱这个标准来问?
任正非:开玩笑,他们也想去张扬一下,不允许,他们那个手机研发的人也跑到台上去演讲,我们就批评,老老实实回到科研室去,不要去社会上讲,让他们搞销售的去讲,你那个搞研发的不要去讲。
主持人:为什么?
任正非:踏踏实实干活,活没干好,张扬有什么结果?
主持人:对他们来说什么叫干好了?
任正非:产品。
主持人:如果他们始终憋着,能证明他们是干好还是没干好?
任正非:他们怎么会憋着?回去老婆老表扬他,他老婆一天出去买好几个包,回来就说你看这包好不好看?不就是表扬他了吗?他不挣那么多钱老婆拿什么去买包?
主持人:外界不知道。
任正非:为什么要外界知道呢?我觉得不需要外界知道。欺世盗国家领奖的人不是真发明人,不会让真的发明人去领奖,傻乎乎把他照片贴到网上?你看网上其实何庭波的照片都是假的。我最近经常看到少量的时候她的照片是真的,多数时候不是她。
主持人:别人管它叫备胎,他们自己也管自己叫备胎,您管他们叫什么?
任正非:没有叫他们备胎过,跟我们市场系统、研发系统同等重要的部门,他们就是正常拿工资、拿奖金,人人都一样戴大红花。
主持人:今天上午您也说他们了,一直就是低着头夹着尾巴做人。
任正非:憋不住了。
主持人:最后憋不住了,终于轮到他们昂起首来了。这是好事吗?
任正非:现在不能说是好事也不能说不是好事,已经发生了我们就决定了。就不要去收回。
【解说:海思2004年成立,负责华为所有的半导体芯片以及核心器件的开发和交付,在华为内部的地位尤其重要,然而这个部门却异常低调,甚至在华为的架构中,一级部门找不到海思的身影。】
华为差点100亿美元把海思卖给美国
主持人:就在当年2004年甚至更早的时候中美关系一切正常,而且国际供应链一切正常,为什么您会预想假如这个世界不正常怎么办?
任正非:跟这个东西我这么讲,我们曾经是准备用一百亿美金把这个公司卖给一个美国公司,因为我们大家都知道,我们再发展下去就和美国要碰撞,一定要去碰撞。因为卖给人家的时候,合同也签订了,所有手续办完了,那么我们穿上花衣服,就在海滩上跑步,比赛跑步,比赛打乒乓球,但是这个星期美国公司的董事会发生变化,新董事长否决了这项收购。那么好,我们回来再讨论,我们还再卖不卖,少壮派是激进派,坚决不再卖了,那不再卖我们就说十年以后我们就和美国在山头上遭遇,遭遇的时候我们肯定是输家,我们拼不过他们刺刀,他们爬南坡的时候是带着牛肉、罐头、咖啡在爬坡,我们这边背着干粮爬坡,可能爬到山上我们还不如人家。好,那我们就要有思想准备,那思想准备我们就准备备胎计划出来了。当然今天有人也说5G将来会不会分裂成两种标准,西方一种标准、东方一种标准,我认为是不会的,因为人类好不容易统一了一个标准,为共同的全球云社会服务,这样两种标准就是两朵云,这个东西将来是很难交融。对吧?
希望未来不和美国人拼刺刀,会去拥抱
在这样的前提下,美国今天把我们从北坡往下打,我们顺着雪往下滑一点,再起来爬坡。但是总有一天,两军会爬到山顶。这时我们决不会和美国人拼刺刀,我们会去拥抱,我们欢呼,为人类数字化、信息化服务胜利大会师,多种标准胜利会师,我们理想是为人类服务,又不是为了赚钱,又不是为了消灭别人,大家共同能实现为人类服务不更好吗?
不是有人提过吗?既然有备胎你为什么早不用呢?我们就是为了西方公司的利益,我们不让西方的利益被挤榨了,朋友就变多了。你看我压制住公司不要做8K电视机,日本、韩国所有的电视机用的是我们的芯片,用的是我们的系统。
华为的钱已经够多了
主持人:可能很多人就不大能理解刚才您说的这样一句话,有的时候方面着这个钱不挣,要让别人去挣,这是什么样的考虑?
任正非:我们已经够多了,要不要讲讲把他们常务董事会去年利润太多的检查拿来给你看看,我还没批示。
主持人:这太炫富了吧?
任正非:不是,战略投入不够,我们战略投入不够,我们战略投入够一点,那我们今天的困难就少一点。
主持人:您这里面没有炫富的意思?
任正非:没有。
主持人:没听出来?
任正非:没有。
主持人:那您怎么说钱多了的事?
任正非:就像你家的土地,牛粪、猪粪撒在地里面一样的,土壤肥力好了是你们家过几年庄稼就可以多收,我们现在讲要加大战略投入就是这个原则。
【解说:如今海思旗下已经拥有自主知识产权的五大系列芯片,分别运用在智能设备、数据中心、人工智能等不同领域,其中麒麟芯片已经成为华为手机构筑竞争力的重要武器,一些独立分析师认为,华为的芯片研发能力已经居于世界前列,也正是因为有了海思的备胎,任正非表示美国禁令对华为的影响很小。】
主持人:我们就按照一切惯常的发展而没有出现中间的这种意外的话,在您的构想中海思它的存在应当是一种什么情况?
任正非:现在海思有大量的基础理论,这个基础理论也是战略研究院在外面撒胡椒面形成的,它没有基础理论它咋能走到这个程度。
主持人:是不是它们永远不启用才是一个正常的、好的状态?
任正非:一直也在用,没有说不用,只是说现在可能就是他们挺身而出,主要以他们供应为主体。如果说正式断了以后,如果是美国继续恢复供应,他们还是继续少量生产。
主持人:您觉得还能有这天吗?
任正非:也许,也许。美国走走,发现走错了,它就自己纠正了。
【解说:也就在华为被列为所谓的实体清单的第四天,美国商务部又发布了为期90天的临时通用许可,推迟对华为及其附属公司现有在美产品和服务所实施的交易禁令,而与此同时出现了一些美国供应商开足马力赶在禁令前加班加点给华为供货的现象。】
华为已经准备好了 “90天”对我们已经没多大意义
主持人:换句话说华为有了90天的临时执照,您怎么看这90天,90天您可以做什么?另外,如果这个新闻是真的,这个90天又被取消了,您又怎么看待这种反复?
任正非:这90天已经对我们没有多大意义,因为我们已经准备好了,就不需要90天,对吧。但是借此我要来讲一讲,我非常感谢美国公司,这三十年来美国公司伴随着我们公司成长,他们做出了很多无私的贡献,教明白了怎么去走路,特别是在今天危机时代,正体现了美国企业的良心。应该是前天晚上徐直军在半夜,我记不得了大致两三点钟,打电话给我,报告了美国企业的努力,正确对我们的情况,我流泪了,我感到得道多助、失道寡助。
主持人:您曾经第一句话就说要感谢美国。
任正非:对。
学生超过老师很正常老师不高兴打一棒也可以理解
主持人:因为是他们教给我们怎么走路,怎么能够成长,今天让您,让华为公司感受到这个世界的复杂里面有不公的也恰恰是这个国家。
任正非:从来都是学生超过老师,这不是很正常的?学生超过老师,老师不高兴,打一棒,是可以理解的。世界流体力学和空气动力学是一对父子发明的,叫伯努利,伯努利这个父亲嫉妒自己儿子在空气动力学上超过他,残酷地迫害他的儿子,他的儿子是他的学生,美国是我们的老师,看到学生超过它不舒服也是存在的,没关系。写论文的时候加一个名字,把它放在前面就行了,我放在后面不就完了吗?
主持人:您准备怎么去面对未来也许会长期存在的这个中美贸易冲突?
任正非:这本来就是可能长期,我们准备打持久战的,我们没有准备打短期突击战,我们突击战也打,我们以后也可能强大,我们度过这个磨合阶段,产品切换磨合这个阶段,其实我们可能更强大了。
【解说:在华为总公司接待大厅的大屏幕上,循环播放华为出品的《基础研究与基础教育》的公益广告片,2018年10月28号起这则公益广告片开始投放媒体,任正非想通过尽可能多的渠道来呼吁社会各界重视基础教育,呼吁国家加强基础科学的研究和创新。】
华为从来不用完人,总追求完美就没有希望
主持人:您反对的是那种盲目的在补短板的过程中,这种所谓的知识产权的创新。
任正非:坚决反对,我就是最典型的,就是短板不行。我在家里经常太太、女儿都骂,这个笨得要死,笨得要死。我这一生就是说短的,去你的,我不管了,我只做长我这块板,让我再拼一块别人的长板,拼起来不就是一个高桶了?为什么要自己变成一个完整、完美的人?完美的人就是没用的人,我们公司从来不用完人,一看这个人总是追求完美,就知道他没有希望,这个人有缺点,缺点很多,这个人好好观察一下,在哪方面能重用他一下,说他不会管人,就派个赵刚去做政委就行了。
我就举个例子,俄罗斯有个科学家、小活字、大数学家,我今天早上跟他们说,你们有合适的女朋友给他介绍一下,这小伙子不会谈恋爱,就是只会做数学,他到我们公司来十几年天天在玩电脑,不知道在干什么。然后我们管五万研发人员的人到莫斯科去看他,打个招呼,一句话就完了。我给他发这个院士,他是院士,我给他发那个牌牌的时候,跟他讲话,嗯,嗯,嗯,三个嗯完了,没有了。
主持人:他听不懂中国话吧?
任正非:那有翻译,不需要懂中国话的问题。就是说他不善于打交道,他十几年默默无闻在干啥我们并不知道。突然告诉我,我们把2G到3G突破了,这个算法突破了,一讲,我们马上在上海进行实验,实验确实证明了,我们就这么一下就领先全世界。
主持人:所以说这就是你们华为公司的这个长板就长在这了。
任正非:对,基础理论太冷板凳了,一般人都不愿意坐的,那不轰轰烈烈的。
【解说:在任正非的话语体系里,与基础研究一直相提并论的是基础教育,他认为我国目前基础研究方面水平不够,和基础教育跟不上直接相关。为此,他曾自费请权威机构的专家进行中国基础教育状况的调查研究。】
主持人:您为什么要做这样的调查?
任正非:我就希望我们国家繁荣富强,希望国家能实现自己国家的梦想。
主持人:今天记者会上您特别提出教育,尤其是基础教育是国家层面要考虑的事情。
任正非:是党和国家的责任。
主持人:但是您作为一个企业家,为什么要做这样的调研?
任正非:它有一个权威性,要做一个这样的报告,中央会相信,而且他们调查了全世界的教育,他们有非常深刻的理解和认识。
主持人:为什么您是以您自己的钱资助他们去做这件事?而没有动用公司的钱?
任正非:我跟您讲,我动用公司的钱是集体的钱,这是要有流程和表决的,我动用自己的钱管不着。比如说我最近去了普洱市,它把地方文化搞得很有特色,我那天看了一场一个村庄的演出,我很感慨,我说那我得送点什么呢?我就送你五台钢琴,我就发五台钢琴。我给贵州省的捐献大概有上千台钢琴了,也是我自己捐献的。我希望从青少年开始,就不要单纯就是数理化,应该有全面的思乡曲发展,奠定一个广阔的文化基础,对吧。
【解说:任正非对于教育有着一份特殊的情感这和他在偏远地区做了一辈子教师的父母有关,因为在那个特殊的年代里的遭遇,父母曾经叮嘱任正非兄妹今生今世不准当老师。】
再穷不能穷教师,再穷也要对未来投资
主持人:您的父母曾经告诉您一辈子不要做老师。
任正非:是。
主持人:但是您回头看您这一辈子几乎一直在关注教育,为什么?
任正非:因为我父母是乡村教师,父母跟我们讲今生今世不准当老师,对我们人生选择,你做啥都不管,但是今生今世不准做老师,我们印象很深刻,果然我们后来都没有做老师的。但是老师是人类灵魂的工程师,没有老师这个社会怎么办?问题就要改变对教师的政策。所以我才说再穷不能穷教师,就是说再穷也要对未来投资,就像我们战略投资一样,我们每年给大学那些教授支持的钱数额都是巨大的。说我有实力,是因为我对未来有投资。如果我们国家对教育也是这样,教育也是国家的未来,如果我们的教育像日本一样,像北欧一样,像德国一样,像这一样,那我们国家还担心什么和美国竞争的问题?今年稍微不行,明年就出来几个优秀的人,就领着又冲上上甘岭了。如果说我们教师的待遇不高,孩子们、优秀的人都不愿意去当老师,那只会马太效应,越来越差,越来越差。优秀的人愿意当老师,只会越来越优秀,马太效应就是这个效应,对吧。
主持人:所以在您看来再穷不能穷教师和再穷不能穷未来是一个道理?
任正非:一样,我们可以讲,在日本一个小学教师娶一个电影明星做太太,但以前是有名字的,现在我不讲这个名字了,很正常,不觉得不荣耀。当然我们国家七十年来有巨大进步,这三十年也有巨大改善,对吧?教师的生活也有大的进步。但是我们要看到他们是我们祖国的未来,他们是国家未来,他们担负着花朵,给花朵浇水的人。我们都不给花朵浇水的人一种事业心、一种使命感的话,他就少浇两次水,花枯萎了,我们不就是一个乔布斯少掉了吗?
中美贸易的根本问题是科技教育水平
【解说:在中美贸易战升级,华为遭受明显不公正打压的当下,任正非对国家基础研究、基础教育的焦虑愈加强烈。】
主持人:我们把这个谈教育的背景再放得宽一点,如果教育是这样的现状的话,我们怎么去面对现在以及未来很有可能持续的中美贸易争端?
任正非:我就觉得中美贸易的根本问题还是科技教育水平,国家一定要开放,才有未来。但是开放一定自己要强身健体,强身健体的最终是要有文化素质。
华为的未来不用我想,我在华为已经是个傀儡了
主持人:这样我就能理解为什么您在大家都再灌注中美贸易争端,在关注这个背景下,华为的未来的时候,您不关心这个,您关心的是我们的教育。
任正非:对,华为的未来不用我想,我们下面的人就应该想得比较清楚,他们只是希望得到我支持一下就行了。我不需要具体地去操心华为太多的事情。我在华为已经是个傀儡了,这傀儡就是人家来问你一下就算数,不问我,我就不知道。
主持人:但是既然您如此定位自己在华为的位置,您为什么不像自己所希望的那样赶紧退休去上一个数学的学位呢?
任正非:我觉得这个现在很难回答你。
主持人:闲下来可以养花养动物,为什么您要养数学?
任正非:你想想我将来会是养花的人吗?首先问我太太,她信不信我养花,她不相信我会养花,我说我退休根本不相信我,你别说那个话,我根本不相信你会退休,你不干到走不动你就不会退出舞台的。
主持人:那换句话说您想学数学这个愿望这被子可能实现不了?
任正非:有可能。
我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄
主持人:美国压境的时候觉得您是民族英雄,您愿意接受这样的称号吗?
任正非:不接受,狗熊。我根本就不是什么英雄,我从来都不想当英雄。任何时候我们是在做一个商业性的东西,商品的买卖不代表政治态度,这个时代变了,怎么买苹果手机就是不爱国?哪能这么看?那还开放给人干什么。商品就是商品,商品是个人喜好构成的,这根本没啥任何关系。媒体炒作有时候偏激,偏激的思想容易产生民粹主义,对一个国家是没好处的。
主持人:那您觉得您希望民众现在用一种什么样的心态面对华为这样的公司?
任正非:不需要,希望他们没心态,平平静静、老老实实种地去,该干什么干什么,多为国家产一个土豆就是对国家的贡献;多说一句话,浪费别人的耳朵,对吧?
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Huawei has also screened! Ren Zhengfei's 8000-word interview shocked people! "Huawei is the best state now", "Undead Huawei"! 15 major views are thought-provoking
2019-05-27 00:16
On the evening of May 26th, CCTV News broadcasted a video of the face-to-face program on May 21 at the Huawei headquarters exclusive interview with Huawei founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei. In the video, Ren Zhengfei brought us some wonderful speeches, let's pay attention to it.
Ren Zhengfei's wonderful views:
1. I care that education is not about Huawei and about our country. If we do not pay attention to education, we will actually return to poverty.
2, patriotism, love this country, I hope this country is prosperous and strong, and no longer let people bully.
3. When we were not under pressure from the United States, when the Mengxi boat incident did not happen, our company was at the most dangerous time, and now it is at its best.
4, Meng night boat in Vancouver, under house arrest. Not worried about Meng Xingzhou, she is going to read a "Doctor in Prison" out.
5, Hai Si was originally a hero, but did not let them publicize.
6. How can (Haisi employees) squat? Going back to his wife to praise him, his wife went out to buy a few bags a day, came back and said that you look at this package is not good? Isn't it to praise him? He doesn't earn so much money, what does his wife buy to buy?
7. One day, the two armies will climb to the top of the mountain. I hope that in the future, they will not fight with the Americans and will hug.
8. Huawei's money is already enough. Sometimes, if you don't earn money, you must let others earn.
9. I am very grateful to the American company. Over the past 30 years, American companies have grown along with our company. They have made a lot of selfless contributions. They have taught how to walk, especially in today’s crisis era, which reflects the conscience of American companies. .
10, the student is more normal than the teacher. The teacher is not happy to play a stick can understand.
11. (China-US trade conflict) It is likely that it will be long-term. We are prepared to fight a protracted war. We are not prepared to fight short-term assaults. We will also fight assaults. We may also be strong in the future. We will spend this phase of integration and product switching. At this stage, in fact, we may be stronger.
12, Huawei never has to be perfect, there is no hope for the pursuit of perfection. I only do this long board, let me fight another piece of other people's longboard, isn't it a high bucket? Why should you become a complete and perfect person? The perfect person is a useless person, our company never has to be perfect.
13. If the treatment of our teachers is not high, children and excellent people are not willing to be teachers. It will only be a Matthew effect, getting worse and worse. Good people are willing to be teachers, they will only get better and better, and the Matthew effect is this effect.
14. The fundamental problem of Sino-US trade is the level of science and technology education. The country must be open to have a future. However, opening up must be to keep fit, and the ultimate in physical fitness is to have a cultural quality.
15. I am not a hero at all. I never want to be a hero.
The full text of the dialogue below
Made 20,000 gold medals, the above inscription is undead Huawei
Moderator: When the outside world is worried about the moment when Huawei is so life-and-death, you are a bit detached. It is important to talk about education and education. Why?
Ren Zhengfei: First, we never felt that we would die. We have already made 20,000 gold medals, the above inscription is undead Huawei. We don't think we will die at all. Why do we see death so heavy? Therefore, we think that we can sort out the problems we have, which problems are removed, and which problems are strengthened. Victory must belong to us. There are no ways for some high-end products in the United States, because we are totally dependent on ourselves and not on the United States.
I care that education is not about Huawei and about our country. If we do not pay attention to education, we will actually return to poverty. Because this society will eventually go to artificial intelligence, because you can visit our production line, 20 seconds a mobile phone from scratch, basically no one. In the future, we have hundreds of thousands of production lines that are completely automated. Therefore, the cultural quality of our people is not enough. At least you have not been educated in college or university. Your English is not good, your computer is not good, and the opportunities for workers are not there.
From the epitome of our company, we must see the country zooming in to see this country, and the country must move toward this step, otherwise the country will be uncompetitive.
The future of the country is education
Ren Zhengfei: What is the strong foundation of a country, such as hardware, railways, highways, transportation facilities, urban construction, running water, and hard facilities in various environments. Hard facilities are soulless, souls are in culture, philosophy is in education, and a country has a hard infrastructure. There must be soft soil. Without these soft soils, no crops can grow. Why do people not mention this question, I will raise this question, we really lead the world in science and technology, I can see the working state of our scientists, I just go abroad, go to any research institute, every scientist Strive to talk about his equation. After ten or twenty years, the results of these things, such as his demonstration of the system equations, show that this future millimeter wave may give humans a hundred times the bandwidth, but only double the money, that is, you are more For two cents, you can get a hundred times the bandwidth, so the poor can consume.
These basic sciences have come to this step. Without starting from the basic education in rural areas and not starting from the basic education of layers, our country cannot compete in this part of the world. Therefore, I believe that the country must fully see this, and the future of the country is education.
The United States shot the birds, but I did not expect that we could not eliminate it.
Moderator: You recognize such a key issue, but your company is bigger, that is, a company. What can you do to change this social problem?
Ren Zhengfei: I can see the true research of scientists, the level that can be achieved, and the difficulty of reaching this level. I know that I believe that we must start from the most basic, and we must respect the teacher and teach it. This can be true. Years, thirty or fifty years have hope. In the past two or three decades, mankind must have erupted a huge revolution. The horror of this revolution has been seen by all, especially the United States. Seeing the best, they can beat you this bird. They didn't expect us to be ready to disappear. They didn't expect that they thought that setting up a few guns would scare a country's era or that era, and it may be misjudged, right. Because the arrest of our country alone has destroyed our will, and this has been misjudged. Therefore, I think that our country is actually starting from today. If our rural children are many doctoral masters after 20 or 30 years, they will fight for the country in new areas of innovation and strive for a new future and destiny. It is the future.
Moderator: Ren Zong, like the series of questions you just mentioned, we take talent as an example. Will it affect the development of Huawei in the coming years?
Ren Zhengfei: No.
Moderator: You have a full talent pool.
Ren Zhengfei: Right. We can recruit the best talents in the world, such as the British chip factory. We recruited doctors from Germany. Because German doctors have strong hands-on ability, we can use the world computer competition champion in the University of Novosibirsk five or six times. The wages are recruited, we have raised wages in Russia, and many Russian doctoral scientists are vying to work for us.
Moderator: In this case, why do you want to exercise a heart that may be seen by others.
Ren Zhengfei: Patriotism, love this country, I hope that this country will be prosperous and strong, and no longer bully.
Huawei did not go to the most dangerous moment, now it is at its best.
Moderator: When many people know that I am coming to interview you, they all hope that the question I ask is whether Huawei has reached the most dangerous and dangerous situation.
Ren Zhengfei: No, when we were not suppressed by the United States, when the Mengxi boat incident did not happen, our company was at the most dangerous time, lazy, everyone’s pockets have money, disobeying distribution, not willing to go. Working in a difficult place is a dangerous state. Now our company is full of excitement, and the fighting power is booming. How did we get to the most dangerous time at this time? It should be at its best.
Moderator: In response to social concerns about Huawei, Ren Zhengfei accepted a collective interview with the domestic media on the morning of May 21st. In the information provided to reporters by Huawei, there is such a picture: a warhead that was played like a sieve in World War II. The tired plane still insisted on flying, and finally returned safely. There is a line of big characters under the plane: there are no scars, and the skin is thick and thick, and the hero has been suffering since ancient times.
Ren Zhengfei: I went online in the middle of the night last night. I saw this photo, very much like our company. I flew while repairing the plane and tried to fly back.
Moderator: When it comes to this plane, I have a problem for you. This plane may be able to fly back because its vital part is not hurt. Is it possible that one day when the plane is flying, its What should I do if the engine, the fuel tank, and its vital parts are attacked?
Ren Zhengfei: Now we have two stories, the first Germany and the second Japan. Everyone knows that because Germany did not surrender, it was finally blown up. Japan also suffered a strong bombing and Japan surrendered. As a result, Japan was not completely destroyed, but a large industrial base was destroyed. At that time, there was one of the most famous slogans, "Nothing is gone. As long as my people are still there, I can rebuild the glory." Germany can see clearly that Germany has not revived for many years, and all the houses have been restored. And the repair is the same as in the past. Japan’s economy has also recovered rapidly, thanks to their talents, thanks to their education and thanks to their foundation. This is the main point. It is very important that everything is lost and that it cannot be lost, the quality of people, the skills of people, and the confidence of people.
[Background: The image of this aircraft released by Huawei is reminiscent of another picture they have sent - the ballet foot advertising map. Ren Zhengfei once said at the meeting in Davos that we have to drink more coffee than others. Live, in fact, we have no advantage over others because we started too late, the growth period is too short, and there are too few things to accumulate. We have to eat more than others. So we have a ballet foot and a bad foot. Huawei is so bad and happy, he explains how we go to the world. The advertising picture of this ballet foot is also related to Ren Zhengfei’s daughter, Huawei’s vice chairman and global chief financial officer, Meng Zhouzhou.
On December 1, 2018, local time, the Canadian authorities detained Meng’s boat at the Canadian airport at the request of the US. The United States subsequently clarified that it was seeking extradition of Meng Xiazhou. Ten days later, on December 11, 2018, the Canadian court ruled to approve the application for bail of Meng Wanzhou. Meng Xiazhou’s circle of friends who walked out of the court that night said: I am proud of Huawei, and I am proud of my motherland. The picture is the Huawei advertising picture of the ballet foot, which says "The greatness is suffering."
The outside world is worried that the escalating Sino-US trade friction may affect Meng’s extradition lawsuit in Canada. 】
Not worried about Meng Zhouzhou, she is going to read a "Prisoner in Prison" out
Moderator: This time in this context, you are not worried about her future?
Ren Zhengfei: Don't worry. Because now my daughter is also very optimistic, she is self-study five or six homework, she is going to read a "doctor in prison" out, complete this doctoral degree in prison, she is not idle, busy every day, I Every time she called, her mother answered the phone or her husband answered the phone and said that she was very busy. I said that I was very busy. I came over and took a call. She said that she was very busy and very fulfilling.
Moderator: Where is she now?
Ren Zhengfei: In Vancouver, under house arrest. She is under house arrest and not imprisoned. She is surrounded by police, but life is still free.
Moderator: If she continues this situation for a long time.
Ren Zhengfei: The key US and Canada are the rule of law. You have to prove through evidence that she is guilty. We are completely in the right place, and the world is sensational. The main headline of Canada’s largest newspaper headline reads that the Meng Zhouzhou incident is a typical national violation. Just like the headline of our People’s Daily is written about this incident, do you think that we are not rational, do people have such a thing?
Hai Si was originally a hero, but he did not let them publicize before.
Moderator: Hai Si has been almost like a hero in the minds of everyone in recent times.
Ren Zhengfei: It was originally a hero. How much do you want their medals to take? How high is this rank and how much income is in all aspects. I asked them, they said they were unknown. I said that the money is less? Quite a lot. Is that OK?
Moderator: Why do you want to use the standard of money to ask?
Ren Zhengfei: Just kidding, they also want to publicize, not allowed, their mobile phone research and development people also ran to the stage to give a speech, we criticized, honestly go back to the research room, do not go to the community to let them sell Let's talk about it, don't talk about your research and development.
Moderator: Why?
Ren Zhengfei: Working hard, not doing well, what is the result of Zhang Yang?
Moderator: What is it for them?
Ren Zhengfei: Product.
Moderator: If they are always squatting, can they prove that they are doing well or not doing well?
Ren Zhengfei: How can they lie? Going back to his wife to praise him, his wife went out to buy a few bags a day, came back and said that you look at this package is not good? Isn't it to praise him? He doesn't earn so much money, what does his wife buy to buy?
Moderator: The outside world does not know.
Ren Zhengfei: Why do you know the outside world? I don't think it needs to be known outside. The person who won the award in the country is not a real inventor. Will it not let the real inventor go to the award, and stupidly put his photo on the Internet? You see that the photos of He Tingbo are fake on the Internet. I have recently seen a small amount of her photos are true, most of the time is not her.
Moderator: Others call it a spare tire. They also call themselves a spare tire. What do you call them?
Ren Zhengfei: There is no department that asks them to have a spare tire. It is as important as our market system and R&D system. They are usually getting wages and getting bonuses. Everyone is wearing the same red flowers.
Moderator: You said them this morning, and you have been holding your tail with your head down.
Ren Zhengfei: I can't stop it.
Moderator: In the end, I couldn't help myself. Finally, it was their turn to start up. Is this a good thing?
Ren Zhengfei: It is not a good thing to say that it is a good thing at the moment. If it has already happened, we will decide. Just don't take it back.
[Explanation: Haisi was established in 2004, responsible for the development and delivery of all semiconductor chips and core devices of Huawei. The position within Huawei is particularly important. However, this department is extremely low-key. Even in Huawei's architecture, the first-level department can't find it. To Hai Si's figure. 】
Huawei almost sold $10 billion to Hess
Moderator: Just in 2004 or even earlier, Sino-US relations are all normal, and the international supply chain is all right, why?