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Donald Trump's classmates share their memories about his 'Lord of the Flies' days in military school

AhMeng

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captionDonald Trump in his high school yearbook.sourceClassmates.com

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump has cited his high school experience at the New York Military Academy as having given him “more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military.”

In recent weeks, Business Insider reached out to several of Trump’s former classmates at the school. They paint a picture of Trump as a star athlete who rose to become one of the highest-ranked members of his class. They also hinted at regular hazing and fighting that went on at the academy.

According to his yearbook, Trump, who grew up in Queens, arrived at the school in upstate Cornwall, New York, in 1959. He graduated in 1964.

The yearbook shows that Trump, the son of millionaire real-estate developer Fred Trump, was a member of the varsity soccer, baseball, and football teams. He also won numerous awards including some for his athletic performance and a “neatness and order medal” in 1960.

One former classmate, George Beuttell, played football with Trump and described him as a “good man.”

“He was one of the highest-ranked cadets there and he was motivated to excel back then, as he is now,” Beuttell told Business Insider. “Nobody ever spoke badly about him then, and he was liked.

Beuttell said Trump “had direction back then that a lot of us other kids didn’t.”
“A lot of us were fooling around, played around, and he was more business than a lot of us,” Beuttell said. “You had to admire that.”

Trump’s yearbook shows he rose to the rank of supply captain. According to Beuttell, this position was “probably the third-highest-ranked cadet in the whole school.”

Another former Trump classmate, Jack Serafin, recalled taking orders from Trump.
“He made me memorize my serial number of my M1 [rifle] and I still remember it this way,” Serafin told Business Insider. “Operationally, he was very well organized.”
Arthur Schoenewaldt also spent some time as Trump’s roommate. He said living with Trump was “great.”

“It was obvious that he came from a better-than-average family, but he was a great guy,” Schoenewaldt said.

Schoenewaldt also recalled Trump’s athletic prowess.

He was intelligent, he presented himself well, he was athletic,” Schoenewaldt said. “I even heard from some of the coaches and stuff he could have played professional baseball.

"Lord of the Flies’

In a brief conversation with Business Insider about his high-school days, Trump declined to discuss his high-school sports career on record to avoid bragging. He said, however, that he was the “best athlete.”

Ted Levine, another former classmate, played baseball with Trump. He said Trump could have had a professional career.

“He was just the best, a good athlete, a great athlete,” Levine said. “He could have probably played pro ball as a pitcher. I think he threw 80 miles an hour. I was the catcher. He made my hand black and blue every day … Could he play football? Could he play soccer? He could do anything he wanted. He was physically and mentally gifted.

Levine also spent some time living with Trump. He said there were “a couple stories,” but he wasn’t “going to repeat them.”

Still, Levine suggested there was some discord between him and Trump.
“OK, a couple of fights, but you know, that’s common ground in that school. [It was] a little ‘Lord of the Flies,'” Levine said.

Levine said fighting was “common” at the school.

“There were a lot of very strong people up there, and it was very competitive,” Levine recalled. “Everyone had fights there … like if the bed wasn’t made right.”

Levine, who went on to become a top college wrestler, said he was “the smallest kid” and Trump was “the biggest kid.” Despite the difference in size between them, Levine said he was sometimes able to get the best of Trump “with a stick.”

“I just learned not to lose,” he said.

Of any fights, Levine made clear that physical encounters were a regular feature of life at the New York Military Academy and that Trump didn’t get violent “more than anyone else would.”

“If you were the new guy, you know, the old guys kicked your ass,” Levine said. “Eventually you became on the other end.”

Levine, however, hesitated to describe the behavior at the school as hazing.

“Defining hazing is very difficult because it’s a moving target with the times,” Levine said. “Is it too nice now? Yes. Are Marines weaker for it? Yes … Is there a moment in time for everything? Yes.”

Schoenewaldt also recalled some degree of hazing at the New York Military Academy.

“They were what they called new-guy rules, but it all had a means to the end,” Schoenewaldt said. “It taught you respect. It taught you discipline.”

According to Schoenewaldt, Trump was not particularly hard on the younger students.

“There were some guys that were pretty aggressive with that stuff, but Trump was not one of them,” he said.

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captionTrump marching with New York Military Academy cadets near the present location of Trump Tower.sourceCourtesy of Donald J. Trump

‘Ladies man’

Trump’s yearbook indicates his nickname in high school was “D.T.” His former classmates who talked to Business Insider said he went by “Don” and “Trump” as well. The yearbook also showed Trump was voted the school’s “Ladies Man” in his senior year.

New York Military Academy was a boys’ school. The graduates who spoke with Business Insider said Trump’s selection as “Ladies Man” was based on his classmates’ perception of him.

He was a very good-looking, handsome guy, and he held himself in a way that everyone thought he’d be very desirable for the opposite sex,” George Beuttell said.
Trump told Business Insider he was voted “Ladies Man” because he “always treated women with the greatest respect.”

“I admire them,” Trump said.

‘Boy, he’s full of himself’

None of the former classmates who spoke with Business Insider recalled discussing politics with Trump. Though his political ambitions may not have been on display, Serafin remembered a story that seemed to hint at Trump’s future as a real-estate mogul.

“We used to march on Fifth Avenue during the Columbus Day Parade,” Serafin said. “Donald was marching, and the officer he addressed was called Ace Castellano. He was a colonel. And Trump said, ‘Ace, I’d really like to get some of this real estate some day.’ Ace looked at him and he thought, boy, he’s full of himself, but he’s got some goals. Castellano told me the story. I know it’s true.”

Trump’s office provided Business Insider with a photo (shown above) that shows him marching in the parade down Fifth Avenue. His current headquarters, Trump Tower, is located on the street.

Some of Trump’s former classmates said they were undecided about whom to vote for in the 2016 presidential election. Schoenewaldt, however, said there was a “good possibility” he would vote for Trump.

“He wasn’t the same as he is now, but I’m sure I respect him. I’ll vote for him. I’ll do anything I can, because I think he can make a difference,” Schoenewaldt said. “He was quiet, unassuming. He wasn’t overly brash. He wasn’t a prick. He was a really good cadet.

Levine suggested that the strong support Trump enjoyed among his former classmates may be due to the culture of the New York Military Academy.

“No matter what, he was on our team and that’s it,” Levine said. “You understand what I mean? … You don’t go against your teammates, no matter what.”
 
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Trump today ....

By Roger Cohen
Opinion Columnist
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I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war. The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014. Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS. She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. “We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,” she said.

Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy. He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.
Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, “They killed my mom, my six brothers,” Trump responds: “Where are they now?

Where are they now???

“They are in the mass graves in Sinjar,” Murad says. She is poised and courageous throughout in her effort to communicate her story in the face of Trump’s complete, blank indifference.

Why this extraordinary attitude from Trump? Well, at a guess, Murad is a woman, and she is brown, and he is incapable of empathy, and the Trump administration recently watered down a United Nations Security Council resolution on protecting victims of sexual violence in conflict.
At the mention of Sinjar, Trump’s unbelievable response is, “I know the area very well, you’re talking about. It’s tough.”
Let’s play how-well-does-President-Trump-know-Sinjar? It’s a wildly implausible game.

Toward the end of the exchange, Trump asks Murad about her Nobel Prize. “That’s incredible,” he says. “They gave it to you for what reason?”
“For what reason?” Murad asks, suppressing with difficulty her incredulity that nobody has briefed the president. Nobody can brief this president. It’s pointless. He knows everything. “I made it clear to everyone that ISIS raped thousands of Yazidi women,” she says.
“Oh really?” says Trump. “Is that right?”

Yes, that’s right. One reason this exchange marked me is that I found myself in 2015 in a Yazidi refugee camp in southeastern Turkey interviewing a survivor named Anter Halef. In a corner sat his 16-year-old daughter, Feryal. She sobbed uncontrollably. I had seldom seen such grief etched on a young face. Life had been ripped from her before she began to live. There was no road back for her. Her eyes were empty vessels left so by rape.

I have watched the Murad-Trump exchange several times. It is scary. This president is inhuman. Something is missing. In his boundless self-absorption, he is capable of anything.

PS : I have nothing more to say ....
 

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Trump has a wicked sense of humor... okay , I give it to him.. he is good.

“France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies,” the president wrote on Twitter. “If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA.”

“We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron’s foolishness shortly,” the president added. “I’ve always said American wine is better than French wine!”

Speaking at the White House later, Mr. Trump expanded on that threat, calling France’s tax “wrong” and saying his administration was working on a possible wine tax.
“I’ve always liked American wines better than French wines. Even though I don’t drink wine. I just like the way they look,” he told reporters.
 
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Finally, an article that tells the truth about President Trump. Probably the best thing to happen to America after Reagan.
 
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Trump today ....

By Roger Cohen
Opinion Columnist
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I cannot forget Trump’s recent treatment of Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her campaign to end mass rape in war. The Islamic State, or ISIS, forced Murad into sexual slavery when it overran Yazidi villages in northern Iraq in 2014. Murad lost her mother and six brothers, slaughtered by ISIS. She now lives in Germany, and has been unable to return home, a point she made in her July 17 White House meeting with Trump. “We cannot go back if we cannot protect our dignity, our family,” she said.

Allow me to render the scene in the present tense. Trump sits there at his desk, an uncomprehending, unsympathetic, uninterested cardboard dummy. He looks straight ahead for much of the time, not at her, his chin jutting in his best effort at a Mussolini pose. He cannot heave his bulk from the chair for this brave young woman. He cannot look at her.
Every now and again, in a disdainful manner, he swivels his head toward her and other survivors of religious persecution. When Murad says, “They killed my mom, my six brothers,” Trump responds: “Where are they now?

Where are they now???

“They are in the mass graves in Sinjar,” Murad says. She is poised and courageous throughout in her effort to communicate her story in the face of Trump’s complete, blank indifference.

Why this extraordinary attitude from Trump? Well, at a guess, Murad is a woman, and she is brown, and he is incapable of empathy, and the Trump administration recently watered down a United Nations Security Council resolution on protecting victims of sexual violence in conflict.
At the mention of Sinjar, Trump’s unbelievable response is, “I know the area very well, you’re talking about. It’s tough.”
Let’s play how-well-does-President-Trump-know-Sinjar? It’s a wildly implausible game.

Toward the end of the exchange, Trump asks Murad about her Nobel Prize. “That’s incredible,” he says. “They gave it to you for what reason?”
“For what reason?” Murad asks, suppressing with difficulty her incredulity that nobody has briefed the president. Nobody can brief this president. It’s pointless. He knows everything. “I made it clear to everyone that ISIS raped thousands of Yazidi women,” she says.
“Oh really?” says Trump. “Is that right?”

Yes, that’s right. One reason this exchange marked me is that I found myself in 2015 in a Yazidi refugee camp in southeastern Turkey interviewing a survivor named Anter Halef. In a corner sat his 16-year-old daughter, Feryal. She sobbed uncontrollably. I had seldom seen such grief etched on a young face. Life had been ripped from her before she began to live. There was no road back for her. Her eyes were empty vessels left so by rape.

I have watched the Murad-Trump exchange several times. It is scary. This president is inhuman. Something is missing. In his boundless self-absorption, he is capable of anything.

PS : I have nothing more to say ....

Just a bunch of fake news. What else is new.
 

Leongsam

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Fake news go hand in hand with a fake President . Nothing is real today.

His awesome achievements in such a short time speak for themselves. He has transformed the economy and brought sanity back to governance. I have a huge amount of respect for him.
 

Hypocrite-The

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His awesome achievements in such a short time speak for themselves. He has transformed the economy and brought sanity back to governance. I have a huge amount of respect for him.
Funny that when the Libturds sprouts shit...they get away with it. But when trump says a fact. It's perverted by the libturd media beyond all recognition

 
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