And I say it can be 2 to 3 dozen to buy. Not at all that SU-57 is any better than J-20. In fact the slight edge in just 2~3 minute areas that SU-57 have over J-20 will be lost this year when 峨嵋 WS-15 engines are completed and fitted on J-20.
Why?
The Grand Overall Big Aim is to KILL USA, and if Xijinping is not exporting his ace J-20 then he have to buy SU-57 to force 2 to 3 other countries to buy SU-57, and by doing that it will deprive USA of F-35 sales and the F-35 users will lost edge to SU-57 everywhere - this includes RSAF.
When China buys SU-57 it will force India & Vietnam to buy the same. They asses will face very instant and intense heats from PLA rapidly armed with J-20 J-16 and SU-57 & SU-35 , it is much more rapid fire/heat than they will get from Chinese warplanes assembly line because there is still bottle neck there, not producing as many warplanes as wanted by PLA air force, navy air corp, & army air corp. When buying from Putin, then the intensified heat will be from both Chinese & Russian production lines' speeds.
Speed is very important especially want big war starts, and warplanes are lost in combat rapidly. The one who cannot replenish losses is the loser of the war.
Chinese purchase of SU-57 will not only force other countries to purchase them, it will also induce some others to purchase. This includes Golden Escalator & his oil rich brothers. It may also include Kazakhstan Belarus which can afford a small fleet.
For the case of India, if ABNN Modi could get SU-57 then they will be less likely to buy F-35. The opposite is true, if they can not get SU-57 then they are very hard pressed to get F-35. Hence Xijinping buying SU-57 can deprive Dotard's F35 sales which Dotard is very desperately hungry for arms sales.
The crisis is brewing for F-35, which when NATO suckers and Japs and Kim Chi begin to fly them in scale, they will begin to fall off the sky, show up problems more serious than Boeign 737 Max, and induce F-35 orders to be further cancelled. Canada already cancelled F-35, and Turkish may be cancelled by Dotard - due to S-400 missiles from Putin.
The scenarios is so, because Xijinping is not offering J-20 for sale, and his offered for sales FC-31 is not finalized and being upgraded repeatedly. The world market is HUNGRY for 5-gen or stealth warplanes, and there is only F-35 selling at the moment. Hence SU-57 entering the market to counter and oppress F-35 is very important.
China is not offering J-20 for sale, not just for strategic consideration, but also that their own assembly line is already hard pressed and not making enough number of J-20 as fast as PLA wanted their deliveries. These are all from 成都, while the their main plant 沈阳 is idle on the 5-gen warplane productions, their J-31/FC-31 are being modified and enhanced further. They are mainly producing the J-16 type non-stealth now.
WS-15 engine is the original intended J-20 engine which is currently substituted by WS-10B as a temporary measure, as WS-15 is being finalized, and with WS-15 it will have the intended power and 3D-thrust-vectoring maneuverability like SU-57.
https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-04-06/doc-ihvhiqax0431913.shtml
中国空军是否将引进苏57？几个关键技术歼20并不具备
2019年04月06日 15:22 新浪军事
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芙蓉开彻徐娘老：歼20量产后我们当如何看待“落后”的苏571/22
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10月19日，在俄罗斯著名军事类节目制片人兼主持人叶戈罗夫的纪录片《从T-50到苏-57》前两集播出不久之后，俄罗斯国防部又公布了此前4架苏-57原型机飞赴叙利亚作战的视频记录。自叙利亚战场归来，俄罗斯苏-57战斗机成为了世界上又一型“参加过实战”的第四代战斗机，关于苏-57战斗机，中国国内对其的评价一直是贬大于褒。其主要原因大概是“家花总比野花香”，中国自研的第四代战斗机歼-20也恰好就在11月初的珠海航展上大放异彩。但当我们真正去细究苏-57的技术细节和发展历程，我们又可以看到其值得我们借鉴的闪光点。那么《出鞘》我们就来谈谈苏-57与中国国产第四代战机歼-20之间的那些事。（查看完整内容搜索微信公众号：sinamilnews）
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俄罗斯真的可能向中国提供苏-57隐身战斗机吗？看看俄罗斯进一步向中国人民解放军出售苏-57战斗机的可能性有多大！
自苏联解体以来，中国人民解放军一直是俄罗斯高端军事装备的主要客户。特别是在上世纪90年代，中国获得了最强大的俄罗斯S-300防空系统、空对空导弹和苏-27、苏-30等空中优势战斗机，这些进口在彻底改变中国的空中作战能力方面发挥了关键作用。然后中国大量投资于研发和大量的反向工程，经过20多年，中国航空工业开始部份超过俄罗斯和美国同行，意味着到2020年后解放军对俄罗斯高端设备依赖大大降低。
俄罗斯武器出口主要是中国、印度以及越南等国家，军售也是俄罗斯一个重要的收入来源。2015年中国慷慨定购24架苏- 35战斗机，为俄罗斯带来了20多亿美元的收入，相当于支持了俄军事工业健康发展。
有鉴于此，俄罗斯国家技术集团（Rostec）的外贸主管维克托•克拉多夫最近就俄罗斯未来向解放军出售高端战斗机的前景发表的高度乐观的声明，令人感到相当意外。
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在2019年马来西亚兰卡威航展上，俄宣布可能向中国以及中东等国出售苏-57第五代空中优势战斗机。根据最近的报告，出口型苏-57飞机将在2019年11月迪拜航空展上首次公布，，除了向印度销售这款飞机，以及未经证实的越南有意定购的报道，中国人民解放军空军也是这款飞机的潜在客户。
关于中国人民解放军空军对苏-57的潜在采购，该主任说：“中国最近接收了24架苏-35飞机，在未来两年内将作出决定，要么购买更多的苏-35，在中国制造苏-35，要么购买第五代苏-57战斗机。这可能是苏- 57重生的另一个机会。克拉多夫因此表示，中国空军不仅可能对第五代苏-57感兴趣，而且对进一步购买苏-35感兴趣！
据信，根据中国最新歼-20战斗机的性能，中国在一些关键领域取代了俄罗斯的军用航空技术。2017年，中国人民解放军开始部署自己的第五代空中优势战斗机“成都歼-20”。在苏-57进入现役之前，“成都歼-20”标志着世界上第二架隐身飞机。中国还先于俄罗斯部署了主动相控阵雷达的飞机（目前安装在其歼-20和歼-10C战斗机上），以及部署了下一代空对空弹药（PL-15已进入服役）。到2022年，中国即将部署即将到来的歼-11D——中国自己的“4 + +代”空中优势战斗机。
歼20
如果歼-11D计划成功，中国将没有理由购买更多的Su-35飞机或寻求建立国内生产的平台。
苏-57当然不能说在整个性能上超过歼-20，因为中国的飞机集成了许多俄罗斯同类飞机所缺乏的高端技术，包括更复杂的隐身设计、分布式孔径系统和通用水动力释放系统。
然而，苏-57集成了歼-20缺乏的几个关键技术，这一事实使它成为解放军潜在的有吸引力的飞机。每架飞机的优势都代表了各自国家最强大的技术领域，通过部署这两种第五代平台，解放军可以更好地在未来的战斗中占据主导地位。
然而，对更先进的苏-57能力的评估表明，其中许多非常独特性能，这可能为中国空军提供一种更有价值的战略武器——一种能够与国产歼-20形成优势互补的五代机。目前歼-20缺乏三维甚至二维推力矢量，但苏-57保留了这种性能，被认为是有史以来最具机动性的战斗机。
苏-57
与歼-20不同，苏-57非常适合在中短程作战中称霸天空。苏-57的内部武器载荷也比歼-20大得多，部署八枚远程K-77或R-37远程空对空导弹。与歼-20相比，苏-57具有相当长的空对空交战距离，K-77导弹通过独特的有源相控阵天线（APAA）技术保持超过193公里的射程。苏-57的内部导弹舱也可以挂载具有400公里射程的专用R-37超远程导弹，专门针对坦克、预警机以及其他重要的电子战飞机等。苏-57战斗机还将装备一些增强型空对地弹药，包括隐身制导炸弹和Kh-47M2高超音速弹道导弹。苏-57上的定向红外对抗系统也允许它向来袭导弹的搜索者发射调制激光束，使对方飞机失明。
这些都是中国现有战斗机，包括歼-20完全缺乏的能力。
苏-57
基于俄罗斯这两大战斗机的能力，可以得出结论，中国增购苏- 35前景依然良好，同时不能排队解放军定购苏-57，即使国产歼- 20已在大规模生产。
据报道，苏-57还在发展一种特殊舰载改型，以及第六代技术增强，如集成激光武器和人工智能，目前正在进行中，并将加强平台的吸引力。考虑到中国航母舰队的快速扩张和歼-20暂时无法上舰，苏-57可能成为中国航母的隐身舰载机。
最重要的是，购买苏-57战斗机也可能为可观的技术转让铺平道路，使中国人民解放军空军获得关键的下一代技术，应用于其自主战斗机设计——可能包括未来的歼-20改型。俄罗斯可能向中国转让一些强有力的五代机技术。
苏-57
如果俄罗斯军方宣布将第六代技术集成到苏-57上，这种战斗机对解放军的吸引力只会增加。美国开发的第六代空中优势战斗机所带来的威胁越来越大，预计到2030年将投入使用，并将大量应对太平洋战区的作战需求。虽然西方认为未来俄罗斯向中国出售更多高端战斗机的可能性大大下降，但定购俄罗斯苏-57所带来的技术价值，以及该平台独特的能力，很可能使这种销售成为可能。（作者署名：蜀中行讲武堂）
Will the Chinese Air Force introduce Su 57? Several key technologies 歼20 do not have
April 06, 2019 15:22 Sina Military
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On October 19th, shortly after the first two episodes of the Russian military program producer and host Yegorov’s documentary "From T-50 to Su-57", the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the previous four The video record of the Su-57 prototype flying to Syria. Since the return of the Syrian battlefield, the Russian Su-57 fighter has become the fourth generation of fighters in the world that have participated in the actual combat. Regarding the Su-57 fighter, China’s domestic evaluation has always been greater than that. The main reason is probably that "the family flower is always better than the wild flower fragrance", and the fourth-generation fighter jet 歼-20 from China has just sprung up at the Zhuhai Air Show in early November. But when we really look at the technical details and development of the Su-57, we can see the bright spots that we can learn from. Then, "Out of Sheath", let's talk about the things between the Su-57 and the Chinese-made fourth-generation fighter 歼-20. (View full content search WeChat public number: sinamilnews)
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Is Russia really possible to provide China with the Su-57 stealth fighter? Look at how likely it is that Russia will further sell the Su-57 fighter to the Chinese People's Liberation Army!
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Chinese People's Liberation Army has been a major customer of Russian high-end military equipment. Especially in the 1990s, China won the most powerful Russian S-300 air defense system, air-to-air missiles and air superiority fighters such as Su-27 and Su-30. These imports have completely changed China's air combat capability. Played a key role. Then China invested heavily in R&D and a large number of reverse engineering. After more than 20 years, China's aviation industry began to surpass Russia and the United States, meaning that the liberation of the PLA's high-end equipment will be greatly reduced by 2020.
Russia’s arms exports are mainly in countries such as China, India and Vietnam, and arms sales are also an important source of income for Russia. In 2015, China generously ordered 24 Su-35 fighters, which brought more than 2 billion US dollars in revenue to Russia, which is equivalent to supporting the healthy development of the Russian military industry.
In view of this, the highly optimistic statement issued by Victor Kladov, the head of foreign trade of Russia's National Technology Group (Rostec), on the prospect of Russia's future sale of high-end fighters to the People's Liberation Army is quite unexpected.
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At the 2019 Malaysia Langkawi Airshow, Russia announced that it might sell the Su-57 fifth-generation air superiority fighter to China and the Middle East. According to a recent report, the export-oriented Su-57 aircraft will be announced for the first time at the Dubai Air Show in November 2019. In addition to selling the aircraft to India and unconfirmed reports of Vietnam’s intention to order, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force is also the same. Potential customers of the aircraft.
Regarding the potential purchase of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force against the Su-57, the director said: “China has recently received 24 Su-35 aircraft, and will make a decision in the next two years, or buy more Su-35, and manufacture Su in China. -35, either to buy the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter. This may be another chance for the Su-57 to be born again. Kladov therefore said that the Chinese Air Force may not only be interested in the fifth-generation Su-57, but also further purchase of Su -35 interested!
It is believed that China has replaced Russian military aviation technology in some key areas, based on the performance of China's latest J-20 fighter. In 2017, the Chinese People's Liberation Army began deploying its fifth-generation air superiority fighter "Chengdu 歼-20." Before the Su-57 entered active service, the "Chengdu 歼-20" marked the world's second stealth aircraft. China also deployed aircraft with active phased array radar (currently installed on its J-20 and J-10C fighters) and deployed next-generation air-to-air ammunition (PL-15 has entered service). By 2022, China is about to deploy the upcoming J-11D, China's own "4 + + generation" air superiority fighter.
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If the 歼-11D plan is successful, China will have no reason to buy more Su-35 aircraft or seek to establish a domestic production platform.
The Su-57 certainly cannot say that the performance exceeds the 歼-20, because the Chinese aircraft integrates many high-end technologies that are lacking in similar Russian aircraft, including more complex stealth designs, distributed aperture systems and universal hydrodynamic release systems.
However, the fact that the Su-57 integrates several key technologies lacking the 歼-20 makes it a potentially attractive aircraft for the PLA. The advantages of each aircraft represent the most powerful technical areas in their respective countries. By deploying these two fifth-generation platforms, the PLA can better dominate the battle in the future.
However, an assessment of the more advanced Su-57 capabilities suggests that many of these are very unique features that may provide the Chinese Air Force with a more valuable strategic weapon – a fifth-generation machine that complements the domestic 歼-20. . The 歼-20 currently lacks three-dimensional or even two-dimensional thrust vectors, but the Su-57 retains this performance and is considered to be the most mobile fighter ever.
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Unlike the 歼-20, the Su-57 is ideal for dominated the sky in short- and medium-range operations. The Su-57's internal weapon payload is also much larger than the 歼-20, deploying eight long-range K-77 or R-37 long-range air-to-air missiles. Compared to the J-20, the Su-57 has a fairly long air-to-air combat distance, and the K-77 missile maintains a range of more than 193 km through the unique Active Phased Array Antenna (APAA) technology. The Su-57's internal missile bay can also be equipped with a dedicated R-37 super long-range missile with a range of 400 kilometers, specifically for tanks, early warning aircraft and other important electronic warfare aircraft. The Su-57 fighter will also be equipped with some enhanced air-to-ground ammunition, including stealth-guided bombs and the Kh-47M2 hypersonic ballistic missile. The directional infrared countermeasure system on the Su-57 also allows it to emit a modulated laser beam to the searcher of the incoming missile, blinding the other aircraft.
These are all existing Chinese fighters, including the ability of the 歼-20 to be completely lacking.
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Based on the capabilities of the two Russian fighters, it can be concluded that the prospect of China's purchase of the Su-35 is still good, and at the same time it is not possible to queue up for the PLA to order Su-57, even if the domestic 歼-20 is already in mass production.
According to reports, the Su-57 is still developing a special ship-to-ship variant, as well as sixth-generation technology enhancements, such as integrated laser weapons and artificial intelligence, currently underway and will enhance the appeal of the platform. Considering the rapid expansion of the Chinese aircraft carrier fleet and the 歼-20 temporarily unable to board the ship, the Su-57 may become a stealth carrier aircraft for the Chinese aircraft carrier.
Most importantly, the purchase of the Su-57 fighter jet may also pave the way for considerable technology transfer, enabling the PLA Air Force to acquire key next-generation technologies for its autonomous fighter design – possibly including future 歼-20 retrofits. . Russia may transfer some powerful five-generation technology to China.
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If the Russian military announces the integration of the sixth-generation technology into the Su-57, the appeal of such fighters to the PLA will only increase. The sixth-generation air superiority fighter developed by the United States poses an increasing threat. It is expected to be put into use by 2030 and will respond to the operational needs of the Pacific theater. Although the West believes that the possibility of Russia selling more high-end fighters to China is greatly reduced in the future, the technical value of ordering the Russian Su-57 and the unique capabilities of the platform are likely to make such sales possible. (Author's signature: 蜀中行讲武堂)
Why?
The Grand Overall Big Aim is to KILL USA, and if Xijinping is not exporting his ace J-20 then he have to buy SU-57 to force 2 to 3 other countries to buy SU-57, and by doing that it will deprive USA of F-35 sales and the F-35 users will lost edge to SU-57 everywhere - this includes RSAF.
When China buys SU-57 it will force India & Vietnam to buy the same. They asses will face very instant and intense heats from PLA rapidly armed with J-20 J-16 and SU-57 & SU-35 , it is much more rapid fire/heat than they will get from Chinese warplanes assembly line because there is still bottle neck there, not producing as many warplanes as wanted by PLA air force, navy air corp, & army air corp. When buying from Putin, then the intensified heat will be from both Chinese & Russian production lines' speeds.
Speed is very important especially want big war starts, and warplanes are lost in combat rapidly. The one who cannot replenish losses is the loser of the war.
Chinese purchase of SU-57 will not only force other countries to purchase them, it will also induce some others to purchase. This includes Golden Escalator & his oil rich brothers. It may also include Kazakhstan Belarus which can afford a small fleet.
For the case of India, if ABNN Modi could get SU-57 then they will be less likely to buy F-35. The opposite is true, if they can not get SU-57 then they are very hard pressed to get F-35. Hence Xijinping buying SU-57 can deprive Dotard's F35 sales which Dotard is very desperately hungry for arms sales.
The crisis is brewing for F-35, which when NATO suckers and Japs and Kim Chi begin to fly them in scale, they will begin to fall off the sky, show up problems more serious than Boeign 737 Max, and induce F-35 orders to be further cancelled. Canada already cancelled F-35, and Turkish may be cancelled by Dotard - due to S-400 missiles from Putin.
The scenarios is so, because Xijinping is not offering J-20 for sale, and his offered for sales FC-31 is not finalized and being upgraded repeatedly. The world market is HUNGRY for 5-gen or stealth warplanes, and there is only F-35 selling at the moment. Hence SU-57 entering the market to counter and oppress F-35 is very important.
China is not offering J-20 for sale, not just for strategic consideration, but also that their own assembly line is already hard pressed and not making enough number of J-20 as fast as PLA wanted their deliveries. These are all from 成都, while the their main plant 沈阳 is idle on the 5-gen warplane productions, their J-31/FC-31 are being modified and enhanced further. They are mainly producing the J-16 type non-stealth now.
WS-15 engine is the original intended J-20 engine which is currently substituted by WS-10B as a temporary measure, as WS-15 is being finalized, and with WS-15 it will have the intended power and 3D-thrust-vectoring maneuverability like SU-57.
https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-04-06/doc-ihvhiqax0431913.shtml
中国空军是否将引进苏57？几个关键技术歼20并不具备
2019年04月06日 15:22 新浪军事
349
芙蓉开彻徐娘老：歼20量产后我们当如何看待“落后”的苏571/22
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10月19日，在俄罗斯著名军事类节目制片人兼主持人叶戈罗夫的纪录片《从T-50到苏-57》前两集播出不久之后，俄罗斯国防部又公布了此前4架苏-57原型机飞赴叙利亚作战的视频记录。自叙利亚战场归来，俄罗斯苏-57战斗机成为了世界上又一型“参加过实战”的第四代战斗机，关于苏-57战斗机，中国国内对其的评价一直是贬大于褒。其主要原因大概是“家花总比野花香”，中国自研的第四代战斗机歼-20也恰好就在11月初的珠海航展上大放异彩。但当我们真正去细究苏-57的技术细节和发展历程，我们又可以看到其值得我们借鉴的闪光点。那么《出鞘》我们就来谈谈苏-57与中国国产第四代战机歼-20之间的那些事。（查看完整内容搜索微信公众号：sinamilnews）
俄罗斯真的可能向中国提供苏-57隐身战斗机吗？看看俄罗斯进一步向中国人民解放军出售苏-57战斗机的可能性有多大！
自苏联解体以来，中国人民解放军一直是俄罗斯高端军事装备的主要客户。特别是在上世纪90年代，中国获得了最强大的俄罗斯S-300防空系统、空对空导弹和苏-27、苏-30等空中优势战斗机，这些进口在彻底改变中国的空中作战能力方面发挥了关键作用。然后中国大量投资于研发和大量的反向工程，经过20多年，中国航空工业开始部份超过俄罗斯和美国同行，意味着到2020年后解放军对俄罗斯高端设备依赖大大降低。
俄罗斯武器出口主要是中国、印度以及越南等国家，军售也是俄罗斯一个重要的收入来源。2015年中国慷慨定购24架苏- 35战斗机，为俄罗斯带来了20多亿美元的收入，相当于支持了俄军事工业健康发展。
有鉴于此，俄罗斯国家技术集团（Rostec）的外贸主管维克托•克拉多夫最近就俄罗斯未来向解放军出售高端战斗机的前景发表的高度乐观的声明，令人感到相当意外。
在2019年马来西亚兰卡威航展上，俄宣布可能向中国以及中东等国出售苏-57第五代空中优势战斗机。根据最近的报告，出口型苏-57飞机将在2019年11月迪拜航空展上首次公布，，除了向印度销售这款飞机，以及未经证实的越南有意定购的报道，中国人民解放军空军也是这款飞机的潜在客户。
关于中国人民解放军空军对苏-57的潜在采购，该主任说：“中国最近接收了24架苏-35飞机，在未来两年内将作出决定，要么购买更多的苏-35，在中国制造苏-35，要么购买第五代苏-57战斗机。这可能是苏- 57重生的另一个机会。克拉多夫因此表示，中国空军不仅可能对第五代苏-57感兴趣，而且对进一步购买苏-35感兴趣！
据信，根据中国最新歼-20战斗机的性能，中国在一些关键领域取代了俄罗斯的军用航空技术。2017年，中国人民解放军开始部署自己的第五代空中优势战斗机“成都歼-20”。在苏-57进入现役之前，“成都歼-20”标志着世界上第二架隐身飞机。中国还先于俄罗斯部署了主动相控阵雷达的飞机（目前安装在其歼-20和歼-10C战斗机上），以及部署了下一代空对空弹药（PL-15已进入服役）。到2022年，中国即将部署即将到来的歼-11D——中国自己的“4 + +代”空中优势战斗机。
如果歼-11D计划成功，中国将没有理由购买更多的Su-35飞机或寻求建立国内生产的平台。
苏-57当然不能说在整个性能上超过歼-20，因为中国的飞机集成了许多俄罗斯同类飞机所缺乏的高端技术，包括更复杂的隐身设计、分布式孔径系统和通用水动力释放系统。
然而，苏-57集成了歼-20缺乏的几个关键技术，这一事实使它成为解放军潜在的有吸引力的飞机。每架飞机的优势都代表了各自国家最强大的技术领域，通过部署这两种第五代平台，解放军可以更好地在未来的战斗中占据主导地位。
然而，对更先进的苏-57能力的评估表明，其中许多非常独特性能，这可能为中国空军提供一种更有价值的战略武器——一种能够与国产歼-20形成优势互补的五代机。目前歼-20缺乏三维甚至二维推力矢量，但苏-57保留了这种性能，被认为是有史以来最具机动性的战斗机。
与歼-20不同，苏-57非常适合在中短程作战中称霸天空。苏-57的内部武器载荷也比歼-20大得多，部署八枚远程K-77或R-37远程空对空导弹。与歼-20相比，苏-57具有相当长的空对空交战距离，K-77导弹通过独特的有源相控阵天线（APAA）技术保持超过193公里的射程。苏-57的内部导弹舱也可以挂载具有400公里射程的专用R-37超远程导弹，专门针对坦克、预警机以及其他重要的电子战飞机等。苏-57战斗机还将装备一些增强型空对地弹药，包括隐身制导炸弹和Kh-47M2高超音速弹道导弹。苏-57上的定向红外对抗系统也允许它向来袭导弹的搜索者发射调制激光束，使对方飞机失明。
这些都是中国现有战斗机，包括歼-20完全缺乏的能力。
基于俄罗斯这两大战斗机的能力，可以得出结论，中国增购苏- 35前景依然良好，同时不能排队解放军定购苏-57，即使国产歼- 20已在大规模生产。
据报道，苏-57还在发展一种特殊舰载改型，以及第六代技术增强，如集成激光武器和人工智能，目前正在进行中，并将加强平台的吸引力。考虑到中国航母舰队的快速扩张和歼-20暂时无法上舰，苏-57可能成为中国航母的隐身舰载机。
最重要的是，购买苏-57战斗机也可能为可观的技术转让铺平道路，使中国人民解放军空军获得关键的下一代技术，应用于其自主战斗机设计——可能包括未来的歼-20改型。俄罗斯可能向中国转让一些强有力的五代机技术。
如果俄罗斯军方宣布将第六代技术集成到苏-57上，这种战斗机对解放军的吸引力只会增加。美国开发的第六代空中优势战斗机所带来的威胁越来越大，预计到2030年将投入使用，并将大量应对太平洋战区的作战需求。虽然西方认为未来俄罗斯向中国出售更多高端战斗机的可能性大大下降，但定购俄罗斯苏-57所带来的技术价值，以及该平台独特的能力，很可能使这种销售成为可能。（作者署名：蜀中行讲武堂）
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On October 19th, shortly after the first two episodes of the Russian military program producer and host Yegorov’s documentary "From T-50 to Su-57", the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the previous four The video record of the Su-57 prototype flying to Syria. Since the return of the Syrian battlefield, the Russian Su-57 fighter has become the fourth generation of fighters in the world that have participated in the actual combat. Regarding the Su-57 fighter, China’s domestic evaluation has always been greater than that. The main reason is probably that "the family flower is always better than the wild flower fragrance", and the fourth-generation fighter jet 歼-20 from China has just sprung up at the Zhuhai Air Show in early November. But when we really look at the technical details and development of the Su-57, we can see the bright spots that we can learn from. Then, "Out of Sheath", let's talk about the things between the Su-57 and the Chinese-made fourth-generation fighter 歼-20. (View full content search WeChat public number: sinamilnews)
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Is Russia really possible to provide China with the Su-57 stealth fighter? Look at how likely it is that Russia will further sell the Su-57 fighter to the Chinese People's Liberation Army!
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Chinese People's Liberation Army has been a major customer of Russian high-end military equipment. Especially in the 1990s, China won the most powerful Russian S-300 air defense system, air-to-air missiles and air superiority fighters such as Su-27 and Su-30. These imports have completely changed China's air combat capability. Played a key role. Then China invested heavily in R&D and a large number of reverse engineering. After more than 20 years, China's aviation industry began to surpass Russia and the United States, meaning that the liberation of the PLA's high-end equipment will be greatly reduced by 2020.
Russia’s arms exports are mainly in countries such as China, India and Vietnam, and arms sales are also an important source of income for Russia. In 2015, China generously ordered 24 Su-35 fighters, which brought more than 2 billion US dollars in revenue to Russia, which is equivalent to supporting the healthy development of the Russian military industry.
In view of this, the highly optimistic statement issued by Victor Kladov, the head of foreign trade of Russia's National Technology Group (Rostec), on the prospect of Russia's future sale of high-end fighters to the People's Liberation Army is quite unexpected.
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At the 2019 Malaysia Langkawi Airshow, Russia announced that it might sell the Su-57 fifth-generation air superiority fighter to China and the Middle East. According to a recent report, the export-oriented Su-57 aircraft will be announced for the first time at the Dubai Air Show in November 2019. In addition to selling the aircraft to India and unconfirmed reports of Vietnam’s intention to order, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force is also the same. Potential customers of the aircraft.
Regarding the potential purchase of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force against the Su-57, the director said: “China has recently received 24 Su-35 aircraft, and will make a decision in the next two years, or buy more Su-35, and manufacture Su in China. -35, either to buy the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter. This may be another chance for the Su-57 to be born again. Kladov therefore said that the Chinese Air Force may not only be interested in the fifth-generation Su-57, but also further purchase of Su -35 interested!
It is believed that China has replaced Russian military aviation technology in some key areas, based on the performance of China's latest J-20 fighter. In 2017, the Chinese People's Liberation Army began deploying its fifth-generation air superiority fighter "Chengdu 歼-20." Before the Su-57 entered active service, the "Chengdu 歼-20" marked the world's second stealth aircraft. China also deployed aircraft with active phased array radar (currently installed on its J-20 and J-10C fighters) and deployed next-generation air-to-air ammunition (PL-15 has entered service). By 2022, China is about to deploy the upcoming J-11D, China's own "4 + + generation" air superiority fighter.
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If the 歼-11D plan is successful, China will have no reason to buy more Su-35 aircraft or seek to establish a domestic production platform.
The Su-57 certainly cannot say that the performance exceeds the 歼-20, because the Chinese aircraft integrates many high-end technologies that are lacking in similar Russian aircraft, including more complex stealth designs, distributed aperture systems and universal hydrodynamic release systems.
However, the fact that the Su-57 integrates several key technologies lacking the 歼-20 makes it a potentially attractive aircraft for the PLA. The advantages of each aircraft represent the most powerful technical areas in their respective countries. By deploying these two fifth-generation platforms, the PLA can better dominate the battle in the future.
However, an assessment of the more advanced Su-57 capabilities suggests that many of these are very unique features that may provide the Chinese Air Force with a more valuable strategic weapon – a fifth-generation machine that complements the domestic 歼-20. . The 歼-20 currently lacks three-dimensional or even two-dimensional thrust vectors, but the Su-57 retains this performance and is considered to be the most mobile fighter ever.
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Unlike the 歼-20, the Su-57 is ideal for dominated the sky in short- and medium-range operations. The Su-57's internal weapon payload is also much larger than the 歼-20, deploying eight long-range K-77 or R-37 long-range air-to-air missiles. Compared to the J-20, the Su-57 has a fairly long air-to-air combat distance, and the K-77 missile maintains a range of more than 193 km through the unique Active Phased Array Antenna (APAA) technology. The Su-57's internal missile bay can also be equipped with a dedicated R-37 super long-range missile with a range of 400 kilometers, specifically for tanks, early warning aircraft and other important electronic warfare aircraft. The Su-57 fighter will also be equipped with some enhanced air-to-ground ammunition, including stealth-guided bombs and the Kh-47M2 hypersonic ballistic missile. The directional infrared countermeasure system on the Su-57 also allows it to emit a modulated laser beam to the searcher of the incoming missile, blinding the other aircraft.
These are all existing Chinese fighters, including the ability of the 歼-20 to be completely lacking.
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Based on the capabilities of the two Russian fighters, it can be concluded that the prospect of China's purchase of the Su-35 is still good, and at the same time it is not possible to queue up for the PLA to order Su-57, even if the domestic 歼-20 is already in mass production.
According to reports, the Su-57 is still developing a special ship-to-ship variant, as well as sixth-generation technology enhancements, such as integrated laser weapons and artificial intelligence, currently underway and will enhance the appeal of the platform. Considering the rapid expansion of the Chinese aircraft carrier fleet and the 歼-20 temporarily unable to board the ship, the Su-57 may become a stealth carrier aircraft for the Chinese aircraft carrier.
Most importantly, the purchase of the Su-57 fighter jet may also pave the way for considerable technology transfer, enabling the PLA Air Force to acquire key next-generation technologies for its autonomous fighter design – possibly including future 歼-20 retrofits. . Russia may transfer some powerful five-generation technology to China.
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If the Russian military announces the integration of the sixth-generation technology into the Su-57, the appeal of such fighters to the PLA will only increase. The sixth-generation air superiority fighter developed by the United States poses an increasing threat. It is expected to be put into use by 2030 and will respond to the operational needs of the Pacific theater. Although the West believes that the possibility of Russia selling more high-end fighters to China is greatly reduced in the future, the technical value of ordering the Russian Su-57 and the unique capabilities of the platform are likely to make such sales possible. (Author's signature: 蜀中行讲武堂)
