Chinese and Malay crap sold in NZ

[Leongsam]

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4:00AM Friday Oct 16, 2009
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The Proton Jumbuck gained only one star.


A Malaysian-manufactured ute has turned in the worst crash test performance of any vehicle being sold here, Consumer New Zealand warns.

The Proton Jumbuck ($24,000) joined two other utes available in New Zealand in being given dismal safety ratings by independent crash test organisation Ancap (Australasian New Car Assessment Programme).

The two-door Jumbuck was awarded the lowest possible one-star rating after its performance in frontal offset and side impact crash tests. Ancap scores vehicles from zero to five stars, depending on the safety features and protection of the driver and passengers.

The ute's cabin was severely deformed in the 64km/h offset crash test. It offered poor head protection for the driver and passenger, and poor leg protection for the driver.

It also lacked airbags, ABS, and electronic stability control - a feature that senses skidding and individually brakes the wheels, helping the driver to regain control.

The two-door Chinese-manufactured Great Wall Motors SA220 ($22,000) was given a lowly two-star rating, with findings that its protection for the driver was poor and its passenger compartment buckled in a frontal offset crash test.

While Great Wall Motors' larger four-door V240 ($27,000) model has dual front airbags and ABS brakes, it was also awarded only a two-star rating. Consumer NZ testing manager Hamish Wilson said potential buyers should steer clear of these utes.

"We don't believe these vehicles should be allowed on the road." He said the minimum standard for a new ute should be four stars. The Toyota Hilux, Mitsubishi Triton and several Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore utes achieved this.

The difference in safety between a two-star and a four-star ute was significant, he said.

"It can mean the difference between walking away from a crash and being taken away in an ambulance."

- NZPA

Copyright ©2009, APN Holdings NZ Limited

 

[Ash007]

Why would you buy crap when there are so many good European and Japanese brand around?

 

[butoh6050]

Should be renamed "Proton Jampan".

 

[Ash007]

Actually, Perodua not bad, essentially a re-badged Daihatsu.

 

[TeeKee]

Yeah right always buy Toyota

At least got recalls you get free service!

 

[Ash007]

I should have added, compared to a proton a perodua is heaps better. Anyway, whats with all these Japanese cars. Buy a BMW, they are way better.

 

[Leongsam]

Buy a BMW, they are way better.

BMW Reliability? A fallacy!

By TDMANDY -
17 September 2008 12:18

Having read various recent articles over the reliability (or otherwise) of BMW's, I thought I would add my brief contribution.

Having suffered the delights of BMW car ownership some years ago (poor service, poor build qulity, major reliability issues), for some strange reason I decided to forget all those memories and purchase an R1100SS from a BMW franchised dealer. 800 miles on the clock, owned from new by BMW themselves. What a mistake.

Rear shock corroded within 2 weeks. Discs warped in simlar time. Paint on fork stanchions peeling. But most serious of all was the fact that the bike would hit a false neutral at regular occurances at high speed. Pretty dangerous, really. Contacted my dealer - they did not want to know. Contacted BMW UK - who advised that false neutral problem was normal and would settle down after about 40,000 miles. And that was it.

The service from my dealer to replace the corroded items under warranty was appauling; items which they said had been done were not and I had to return the bike three times as I was not satisifed with what little they had done. In the end I complained again to BMW UK about the level of service I had received.

At about the same time I remember another MCN reader complaining about the same dealer. And then lo and behold BMW pulled the bike franchise. The only decent thing they have done, as far as I am concerned. The dealer? L&C Tunbridge Wells. RIP.

I suppose I really deserved eveerything I got. I went through five different BMW franchises trying to get my car serviced satisfactorily and still they couldn't get it right. Still they do have very attractive ladyeees on the reception desk. Oh, and loverly pot plants to make you feel at home (just before you are about to get ripped off).

So why do people buy them? the koudos of course. But for me, never, ever, again. Oh, by the way. Why all the fuss about the R1200GS? When it does eventually start and manages to continue a journey without breaking down at the end of the day it is still a slow, pig-ugly heavy brute of a thing which costs a small fortune. I just do not get it. Oh yes, its the Charley and Ewan influence. Are people really that gullible??

 

[Leongsam]

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[Leongsam]

http://www.auto-broker-magic.com/used-car-ratings.html

Here's The Car Rating Results:
The results show the number of failures reported for every 100 vehicles (3 -9 years-old) covered by Warranty Direct’s policies.

And just so you understand what the numbers mean: Mazda, with a score of 8.04%, would mean that nearly 92 percent of the Mazda cars covered experienced no mechanical failure of any kind ... pretty darn good.

<table width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="left" width="25%">
</td><td colspan="3" align="left" valign="top"> 1. Mazda - 8.04%
2. Honda - 8.90%
3. Toyota - 15.78%
4. Mitsubishi - 17.04%
5. Kia - 17.39%
6. Subaru - 18.46%
7. Nissan - 18.86%
8. Lexus - 20.05%
9. Mini - 21.90%
10. Citroen - 25.98%
11. Daewoo - 26.30%
12. Hyundai - 26.36%
13. Peugeot - 26.59%
14. Ford - 26.76%
15. Suzuki - 27.20%
16. Porsche - 27.48%
17. Fiat - 28.49%
18. BMW - 28.64%
19. Vauxhall - 28.77%
20. Mercedes-Benz - 29.90%
21. Rover - 30.12%
22. Volvo - 31.28%
23. Volkswagen - 31.44%
24. Jaguar - 32.05%
25. Skoda - 32.12%
26. Chrysler - 34.90%
27. Audi - 36.74%
28. Seat - 36.87%
29. Renault - 36.87%
30. Alfa Romeo - 39.13%
31. Saab - 41.59%
32. Land Rover - 44.21%
33. Jeep - 46.36%
</td> </tr></tbody></table> Any Real Surprises?
Perhaps some eyebrows rise seeing Mazda at #1. But I have to say, we were only "pleasantly surprised".

In our 4-plus years of turning the car business upside down, we've sold far more Mazdas than Toyota or Honda models. We were just always impressed with them, particularly when comparing prices. Thought they were a lot of car at an affordable price and our customers have had nothing but good experiences. Well, I guess now the rest of the world knows.

How about Kia at #5? Yes, we've considered them a rising star for some time now. Look for more good news from them going forward ... and Hyundai as well.

How about poorer ratings for some of the luxury cars such as BMW and Mercedes? Well, this really shouldn't shock anyone. There's a lot of life in these brands, but higher maintanence costs have always come with them.

It's too bad we don't see American car makers in the top 10. But again, that's still no surprise (although I thought Chrysler would have done better). But we think this could be changing in the not too distant future.

We see the American manufacturers making strides in this area. Also having some positives to share is Consumer Reports, who recently reported in its 2006 Annual Car Reliability Survey that the Fusion and Milan outscored the Honda Accord V6 and Toyota Camry V6 in predicted reliability.

The Zephyr also did very well in the upscale cars category, scoring just behind the Lexus ES350. Some other domestics also did well, including the Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS, Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon and Pontiac Vibe.

Note that we don't see GM (or Acura) among the 33 manufacturers listed above. I don't know why. Perhaps Warranty Direct does not have warranties for those makes.

At any rate, hope this proves useful.

All the best,

Josh

 

[Ash007]

I should have added, compared to a proton a perodua is heaps better. Anyway, whats with all these Japanese cars. Buy a BMW, they are way better.

Bah, I still love my Mini Cooper S. Beats the crap I was driving back home. No issue at all so far. And I beat any car off the traffic lights if I want to. Once you go European cars you won't go back mate.

 

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[Ramseth]

It's been a well known joke in Genting for decades since Proton started: cars made in Malaysia and dogs not allowed up Genting. They say you can try with a Proton, then test how it feels like to get stranded halfway up the mountain with a smoking engine.

 

[pia]

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2004? Got latest or not?

 

[TeeKee]

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[Leongsam]

2004? Got latest or not?

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?searchtype=relindex&apc=3128339010848601#