China tops fake goods supply to EU

[GoFlyKiteNow]

Agencies
Posted: 2009-07-12 16:32:43+05:30

China tops fake goods supply to EU.

London: Seizures of counterfeit goods being smuggled into the European Union (EU) more than doubled last year with China being the main source of fake goods and India the prime supplier of spurious medicines.

EU customs authorities across the 27-member states seized 178 million fake items in 2008, up 125 per cent from 79 million in 2007, said the European Commission.

Pirated DVDs and CDs were the most prevalent fake goods, with 79 million disks detained, 44 per cent of all items.

They were followed by cigarettes, 23 per cent of the total, and clothing, at 10 per cent.

Pirate DVDs also posted the biggest single increase in annual seizures, increasing by 2,600 per cent compared with 2007, BBC reported.

Meanwhile, seizures of counterfeit medicines rose 118 per cent, while those of fake cigarettes increased by 54 per cent.

The European Commission said China remained the main source of counterfeit goods coming into the EU, accounting for 54 per cent of the total in 2008.

However, Indonesia was the biggest source of fake food and drink products, while the United Arab Emirates was the main source of counterfeit cigarettes.

 

[longbow]

China as the world's largest manufacturer statistically will result in it shipping more fake, poor quality goods, etc etc. It is all a matter of statistics. Given its manufacturing prowess, if you want high quality fake LV, the Chinese have the material good enough to pull it off.

You would be correct if you said that Indians write the most defective software codes. But then if you take into account the number of software programmers that are Indians and the lines of software code written by Indians then that statement while factually correct is wrong in the message.

You must realize the magnitude to which normal day to day items are made in China. The very fact that there have not been many lawsuits in the US for poor quality goods is surprising. Of course we read of the lead painted Mattel toys etc etc.

But if the good are truly substandard then the legal cost would outweigh the profits. I am sure you know about US attorneys and their contingency fees!

Yes there are a few bad apples (even Toyota or Honda have issues with their products) but overall the items are of good quality. Walmart would have been out of business if Chinese goods are a problem.

 

[po2wq]

China tops fake goods supply to EU. ...

wen there's demand, there's supply ...

there's obviously a huge demand 4 fake goods in eu ...

 

[GoFlyKiteNow]

China as the world's largest manufacturer statistically will result in it shipping more fake, poor quality goods, etc etc. It is all a matter of statistics. Given its manufacturing prowess, if you want high quality fake LV, the Chinese have the material good enough to pull it off.

You would be correct if you said that Indians write the most defective software codes. But then if you take into account the number of software programmers that are Indians and the lines of software code written by Indians then that statement while factually correct is wrong in the message.

You must realize the magnitude to which normal day to day items are made in China. The very fact that there have not been many lawsuits in the US for poor quality goods is surprising. Of course we read of the lead painted Mattel toys etc etc.

But if the good are truly substandard then the legal cost would outweigh the profits. I am sure you know about US attorneys and their contingency fees!

Yes there are a few bad apples (even Toyota or Honda have issues with their products) but overall the items are of good quality. Walmart would have been out of business if Chinese goods are a problem.

You fail to read between the lines.
It is a precursor report to initiate protectionism due to tough economic times.

Regarding software bugs you mentioned about: Well..that is common. Todate I have not seen a single software in the market ( from any source ) that is without some bug or other. Windows included.

But the important thing is: these error codes or bugs are not created intentionally, to make a fast buck out of other people's reputation, hard work and creativity...which is the case with fake goods and pirate software and DVDs. ( of course: there is also the concern about safety issues and health hazards ).

 

[besotted]

well said, china, the world's third largest economy, is indeed the manufacturing powerhouse.

as such, going by the numbers, naturally this will be the case

but its next leap will be to lead in innovation as well

China as the world's largest manufacturer statistically will result in it shipping more fake, poor quality goods, etc etc. It is all a matter of statistics. Given its manufacturing prowess, if you want high quality fake LV, the Chinese have the material good enough to pull it off.

You would be correct if you said that Indians write the most defective software codes. But then if you take into account the number of software programmers that are Indians and the lines of software code written by Indians then that statement while factually correct is wrong in the message.

You must realize the magnitude to which normal day to day items are made in China. The very fact that there have not been many lawsuits in the US for poor quality goods is surprising. Of course we read of the lead painted Mattel toys etc etc.

But if the good are truly substandard then the legal cost would outweigh the profits. I am sure you know about US attorneys and their contingency fees!

Yes there are a few bad apples (even Toyota or Honda have issues with their products) but overall the items are of good quality. Walmart would have been out of business if Chinese goods are a problem.

 

[longbow]

Take a look at this article on patents. Look for 20 year patents as a fair comparison. No surprise because of size of Chinese industrial base. China is moving from copying to innovating. They are no different from the Japs. The first few Toyota and Nissans were copies of Austin. But look at them today. Japan went from wreck to manufacturing powerhouse in 40 years. S Korea did it in 25 to 30 years. No reason why the Chinese cannot do it in 20 to 25 years.

http://www.thelawyer.com/us-patent-...ina-posts-25-per-cent-increase/133518.article


China is on course to overtake the US as the world's largest patent-filing jurisdiction by 2012 if the growth in both countries continues at its current rate.


A report by US research company Evalueserve has found that patent filing in China is increasing year-on-year by 25 per cent for domestic companies and 4.5 per cent for international companies.

In 2007 the Chinese State Intellectual Property Office received a total of 694,153 patent applications, which represents a growth rate of 21.1 per cent on the previous year.


The study found that China's 10-year patent term is driving applications among domestic companies. The process is cheap, costing only Rmb500 (£37), and is processed within one year. Foreign companies, by contrast, tend to prefer the long-term protection of 20-year patents.

PATENT FACTS AND FIGURES
• 694,153: Total number of patent applications received by China's State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO) in 2007
• 21.1 per cent: Growth in Chinese patent applications in 2007
• 8.7 per cent: Growth in US patent applications in 2007
• 4,000,000: Total number of patents filed at SIPO from 1985 to 2007
• 15 years: Time it took for the first one million patents to be filed in China
• 18 months: Time it took for the fourth one million patents to be filed in China
• 13,434: Number of IP disputes in China in 2005


• 10,905: Number of IP disputes in the US in 2005
A Evalueserve spokesman said: "China's patent system has ;been ;significantly developed in the past 20 years, but the sheer number of patent applications will put it to a more rigorous test. Our research shows that Chinese companies increasingly realise the importance of intellectual property protection."

In ;2006 ;Huawei Technologies was the leader among domestic filers with 5,593 20-year patent applications, followed by ZTE Corporation and Hon Hai Precision Industry.

South Korea's Samsung Electronics ;was ;the largest foreign filer in the country in 2006 with 3,779 applications, with Japanese companies Matsushita, Sony and Dutch giant Philips following close behind. IBM was the only US-based company in the top 10 foreign filers.

Innovation in China has been spurred by rapid economic growth, which has in the past four years seen the country overtake some of the most popular jurisdictions for patent filing.

In 2004 China overtook the European Patent Office to become the fourth-largest 20-year patent application filing jurisdiction in the world, accounting for 8.2 per cent of all 20-year patent applications filed worldwide.

Meanwhile, in 2005 it surpassed South Korea to become the third-largest 20-year patent application-filing country after Japan and the US.

The Evalueserve report says: "China still has not been able to overcome the stigma that it is a safe haven for IP counterfeiters and pirates. A popular perception in the past - even among IP experts in Western countries - has been that filing patent applications in China is of no use."

But despite the Western perception of Chinese courts being biased towards Chinese companies, the study found that foreign parties won 60 per cent of IP cases heard at the No1 Intermediate People's Court of Beijing.

well said, china, the world's third largest economy, is indeed the manufacturing powerhouse.

as such, going by the numbers, naturally this will be the case

but its next leap will be to lead in innovation as well

 

[longbow]

Tough to fight protectionist battle against the Chinese.

You impose a levy on Chinese goods and overnight almost everything that your citizens buy have gone up in price and your citizens will be making noise. Chinese on the other hand are in a buying spree of expensive equipment. From power stations to jet aircraft to construction equipment.

And you have many EU companies itself wanting a bigger marketshare of the Chinese market - VW, Audi, Daimler, BMW, Siemens, Krupp, etc that will lobby their governments against any protectionist pressures.

 

[scoobyhoo]

yes, better prohibit the goods from china, rage wars against china like their grand grand grand fathers did hundred years ago. cao ni ma ge bi.