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Serious Chief Wanker Bayi Jealous That NTUC Delegates Say 'Majulah PAP' ! Doesn't Know That Behind Close Doors, Trade Union Fight With PAP To Defend Workers

JohnTan

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Mr Singh asked Dr Koh if he could raise "a single example of where an NTUC secretary-general or a deputy secretary-general has spoken out against a 3G or 4G leader to defend the rights of workers".

"Now, I am not suggesting that this is the gold standard or the test ... But this comes to the heart of what people see and believe to be a conflict of interest," said the WP secretary-general.

"And when NTUC delegates are saying 'majulah PAP', I think people are entitled to question, do you speak for the party first? Or do you speak for workers first?

"The point is not about moving Singapore in a direction where employers, employees, workers, government, fight each other to the detriment of our society and our economic growth," he said.

"Party interests cannot be more important than the interests of our workers.

"And a symbiotic relationship does not mean that the NTUC is neutered or cannot openly speak out in the interests of workers," said Mr Singh, adding that he had no reason to believe rank-and-file members of NTUC do not speak out for workers.

Dr Koh replied: "Just because the Workers' Party lost the relationship with worker unions long ago, doesn't mean that because we can preserve the relationship for 60 years, there's something wrong with a symbiotic relationship."

Mr Singh rose to say that "there's no question of losing a relationship in any way".

In closing the exchange, Dr Tan shared an anecdote by the immediate former president of the Singapore National Employers Federation (SNEF).

Dr Robert Yap had told a foreign counterpart that contrary to the view that unions in Singapore are weak, "the unions here are strong because they get what they want without striking".

Dr Tan said that the strength of the tripartite system was that it delivered positive outcomes through negotiation rather than open confrontation, and without disruption.

The manpower minister also urged the House to "look at the record" of what tripartism has achieved for Singapore.

"Together, we've protected jobs, we have created stability, we have ensured prosperity for our workers, our businesses. I hope we can continue."
 

JohnTan

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behind closed doors you fight with your wife we believe. Cheebai

Here's the first part of the article. It's too long for dim oppie minds to read.

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SINGAPORE: Behind closed doors, tripartite partners engage in heated discussions and do not always agree on matters affecting workers, Manpower Minister Tan See Leng said on Tuesday (Sep 10).

His comments came as lawmakers wound down a spirited debate on the independence of the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) given its symbiotic relationship with the ruling People's Action Party (PAP).
The debate started on Monday as parliament considered a landmark Bill to protect platform workers' rights, which has since been passed into law.

Member of Parliament (MP) Gerald Giam (WP-Aljunied) gave a speech questioning whether NTUC could "fully advocate" for workers' rights "without fear or favour". This drew sharp rebuttals from across the aisle.
On Tuesday, Dr Tan said Singapore's "unique" model of tripartism among workers, employers and the government was one of the country's greatest strengths.

"Together, we have robust discussions, we push back. We have intense debate behind the scenes. And when we formulate ideas, we turn them into actions, and we overcome challenges as one united people."
He said the government plays a "key moderating role" to balance the interests of workers and businesses, and make sure decisions are made "for the long-term good for everyone".

"I know you keep talking about independence," he said. "Behind closed doors, the tripartite partners do not always agree.

"Heated discussions happen behind closed doors on many, many issues," he said, citing the raising of the retirement age and upcoming workplace fairness legislation as examples.

WP WILL "KILL TRIPARTISM": KOH POH KOON
Earlier, Senior Minister of State for Manpower Koh Poh Koon also stressed the importance of tripartism in his wrap-up speech before MPs voted on the Platform Workers Bill.

"We must understand that there is a natural tension between the interests of businesses and workers, which stems from the competing goals of maximising profits on the one side and securing fair treatment and compensation on the other."

He said it was easy for a government to be pro-business or pro-worker, but very difficult to be both at the same time.

"The symbiotic relationship of the PAP and NTUC has allowed us, as a ruling party, to run a government that is both pro-worker and pro-business at the same time."

Dr Koh also said other countries try to emulate Singapore's success but are unable to because they do not have symbiosis between unions and the governing party, nor tripartism.

He then said: "What is dangerously clear to us is that the Workers' Party will seek to dismantle this."

Dr Koh said that Mr Giam was "in fact saying that the Workers' Party will not align itself with any unions, or form any relationship with any unions".

"So all workers and employers should sit up and take notice. Because the WP leadership wants to destroy tripartism as it stands here today. The Workers' Party will kill tripartism."

He also said this was ironic as the WP's founder, David Marshall, started the party in 1957 with the idea of a "political party whose membership is exclusively confined to members of trade unions".

"Somehow along the way, they lost the trust and the relationship with the unions. So now Mr Gerald Giam says, like a bit of a toxic ex-boyfriend: 'Because I can't have a relationship with unions, no one else should have as well.
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...-ntuc-labour-movement-independent-pap-4598851
 

oliverlee

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Here's the first part of the article. It's too long for dim oppie minds to read.

tan_see_leng.png


SINGAPORE: Behind closed doors, tripartite partners engage in heated discussions and do not always agree on matters affecting workers, Manpower Minister Tan See Leng said on Tuesday (Sep 10).

His comments came as lawmakers wound down a spirited debate on the independence of the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) given its symbiotic relationship with the ruling People's Action Party (PAP).
The debate started on Monday as parliament considered a landmark Bill to protect platform workers' rights, which has since been passed into law.

Member of Parliament (MP) Gerald Giam (WP-Aljunied) gave a speech questioning whether NTUC could "fully advocate" for workers' rights "without fear or favour". This drew sharp rebuttals from across the aisle.
On Tuesday, Dr Tan said Singapore's "unique" model of tripartism among workers, employers and the government was one of the country's greatest strengths.

"Together, we have robust discussions, we push back. We have intense debate behind the scenes. And when we formulate ideas, we turn them into actions, and we overcome challenges as one united people."
He said the government plays a "key moderating role" to balance the interests of workers and businesses, and make sure decisions are made "for the long-term good for everyone".

"I know you keep talking about independence," he said. "Behind closed doors, the tripartite partners do not always agree.

"Heated discussions happen behind closed doors on many, many issues," he said, citing the raising of the retirement age and upcoming workplace fairness legislation as examples.

WP WILL "KILL TRIPARTISM": KOH POH KOON
Earlier, Senior Minister of State for Manpower Koh Poh Koon also stressed the importance of tripartism in his wrap-up speech before MPs voted on the Platform Workers Bill.

"We must understand that there is a natural tension between the interests of businesses and workers, which stems from the competing goals of maximising profits on the one side and securing fair treatment and compensation on the other."

He said it was easy for a government to be pro-business or pro-worker, but very difficult to be both at the same time.

"The symbiotic relationship of the PAP and NTUC has allowed us, as a ruling party, to run a government that is both pro-worker and pro-business at the same time."

Dr Koh also said other countries try to emulate Singapore's success but are unable to because they do not have symbiosis between unions and the governing party, nor tripartism.

He then said: "What is dangerously clear to us is that the Workers' Party will seek to dismantle this."

Dr Koh said that Mr Giam was "in fact saying that the Workers' Party will not align itself with any unions, or form any relationship with any unions".

"So all workers and employers should sit up and take notice. Because the WP leadership wants to destroy tripartism as it stands here today. The Workers' Party will kill tripartism."

He also said this was ironic as the WP's founder, David Marshall, started the party in 1957 with the idea of a "political party whose membership is exclusively confined to members of trade unions".

"Somehow along the way, they lost the trust and the relationship with the unions. So now Mr Gerald Giam says, like a bit of a toxic ex-boyfriend: 'Because I can't have a relationship with unions, no one else should have as well.
'"
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...-ntuc-labour-movement-independent-pap-4598851
i dont read rubbish that you post, much less from your master's hand. Dims even a kid's intellect
 

laksaboy

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NTUC is a fake labour union, it is only a proxy organization of the PAP.

Looks like they aren't even bothered to pretend and keep up appearances now.

A real labour union would not have a single govt official in its hierarchy. That would be as asinine as putting govt officials into a NGO (non-governmental organization).

Totalitarian regime wants to be a control freak, and gaslight you into believing that it's okay, it's necessary and no conflicts of interest. :biggrin:
 

winnipegjets

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1 million foreigners working in Sinkapore ....Ah Nehs ...most are unqualified ...taking away good paying jobs which sinkees are qualified to do.
That is how the trade unions protect sinkee workers. The gold standard of trade union indeed.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Ntuc is controlled by the pap that Is why singkieland Is a very pro business environment...it's basically KFC controlling the Chickens...and the chickens voted and continued voting for it.

If singkies want to talk about HR policies..singkieland Is just 1 step above 3rd world country....for example...3 months probationary period..don't get paid for public holidays. Isn't that exploitation?
 

congo9

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What's there to fight, all drawing same pay cheque ?
JUst let MOM and CPF do what they want.

Ng CM can kpkb all he wants but he still needs to listen to MOM and MTI.

All he can do is to offer more discount on their trust app !!!!
 

bobby

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I recall one of them in particular cried in public when he was due to fuck off for retirement. Chor bo lan with no portfolio

You mean this one? People cry and chobolan but seow seow now chairman of Temasek Holdings as a reward for being a faithful dog.

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k1976

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1 million foreigners working in Sinkapore ....Ah Nehs ...most are unqualified ...taking away good paying jobs which sinkees are qualified to do.
That is how the trade unions protect sinkee workers. The gold standard of trade union indeed.
SG is Training school mah
Take salary, and enjoy training
Any shit is covered by Pink IC

Best of Both World:smile:
 

myfoot123

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Asset
Which master does the chief of NTUC reports to?
Are the Chief of NTUC a member o PAP?
Did the Chief of NTUC wear PAP logo to fight for MP role during election?


Once you get 3 similar answers to the above 3 questions, it says a lot about the symbiotic relationship between NTUC and PAP. To say that NTUC fight with PAP behind closed door, sound too rich to believe.

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