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CCB PAPee Ministers Receive Awesome Pension While on Million$ Pay. UTTERLY SHAMELESS!

makapaaa

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Subscribe </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=msgtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgF noWrap align=right width="1%">From: </TD><TD class=msgFname noWrap width="68%">GoldenFL0WER <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate noWrap align=right width="30%">Jan-28 3:33 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT noWrap align=right width="1%" height=20>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname noWrap width="68%">ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 8) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft width="1%" rowSpan=4> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>20300.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>CIVIL SERVICE PENSIONERS

Ms Sylvia Lim asked the Minister for Defence (a) how many former civil servants are currently receiving pensions in their retirement, segmented by the size of the monthly pensions in $300 intervals; (b) of these, how many are entitled to dependants' benefits, and the nature of those benefits; and (c) of those with dependants' benefits, whether such benefits survive the death of the pensioners.

Mr Teo Chee Hean: As at 10th January 2008, there were 18,181 civil service pensioners receiving monthly pensions.
We do not usually capture pension data by interval segments, and have extracted the data by intervals of $1,000. If data is required in finer interval segments for a specific purpose, we will consider putting in the resources to extract and provide the data. The distribution of pensioners by monthly pension, in $1,000 intervals, is as follows:



A dependant refers to the wife of a male pensioner and to children below 18 years of age for a male pensioner. Children below 18 years of age of female pensioners who are sole breadwinners, such as widows and divorcees, are also deemed as dependants. Dependants of pensioners are eligible for medical benefits only, based on the medical benefits scheme of the pensioner. Dependants do not receive separate pension payments or other benefits from the Government. Of the 18,181 pensioners, 9,092 currently have dependants who are receiving medical benefits.

The medical benefits for dependants cease when the pensioner passes away. It does not survive the death of the pensioner.



PUBLIC HOSPITALS
(Settlement of bills)

Ms Sylvia Lim asked the Minister for Health (a) how many persons are currently in arrears of bills from public hospitals, segmented by the size of the bills in arrears, in $3,000 intervals; and (b) for those paying bills by instalments, what is the maximum period for the instalment plans allowed to date.

Mr Khaw Boon Wan: Most patients settle their bills promptly, with the vast majority within two months of discharge.
Less than 4% of patient cases were in arrears after two months of discharge. The arrears averaged $409 per bill. Arrears exceeding $3,000 were uncommon.
Generally, hospitals would allow such patients an instalment plan of up to 24 months.

On selected cases, the instalment plan can be further extended, to even a few years.


EDUCATING FOREIGN STUDENTS USING PUBLIC MONIES
(Tertiary level)

Ms Sylvia Lim asked the Minister for Education for the last three years, how much public monies were spent annually on educating foreign students at the tertiary level in our public sector education institutions, with a breakdown of the key items of expenditure.

Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam: The Government's annual recurrent spending on foreign students over the last three years is estimated at about $154 million in the three publicly-funded universities and about $69 million in the five polytechnics. This is about one fifth and one tenth of the total annual recurrent grants disbursed by MOE to the universities and the polytechnics respectively, and is based on the proportion of foreign students in the total student population. This spending goes towards meeting the operating expenditures incurred by these institutions in teaching its students. These primarily comprise manpower, equipment and other operating expenditures.
Foreign students have to meet at least the same admission standards to enter the tertiary institutions as local students. They pay higher fees than local students. As announced earlier, from AY2008 onwards, fees for foreign students will be increased from 1.1 times local fees to 1.5 times.
In return for the subsidies they receive, FS are bound by MOE's Tuition Grant obligation, where they have to work for Singapore-based companies for three years upon graduation. Those who do not wish to meet this obligation pay full fees with no public subsidy.
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<!--PostMsgHTML--><SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--if (adPosition == 1){ showGoogle(); }//--></SCRIPT><!--/PostMsgHTML--><!--PreMsgHTML--><!--/PreMsgHTML--><TABLE class=msgtablealt cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgF noWrap align=right width="1%">From: </TD><TD class=msgFname noWrap width="68%">UncleFond <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate noWrap align=right width="30%">Jan-28 6:23 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT noWrap align=right width="1%" height=20>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname noWrap width="68%">GoldenFL0WER <NOBR></NOBR>unread</TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 8) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft width="1%" rowSpan=4> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>20300.2 in reply to 20300.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>WOW! Not only fs are publicly subsidised in tis promised land,they r also promised jobs,for tis i think our local s deserve a congratulation.No wonder sinkies miss tis episode in palimen.No wonder papshit cut down air-time to 30mins.
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makapaaa

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Re: CCB PAPee Ministers Receive Awesome Pension While on Million$ Pay. UTTERLY SHAMEL

The Government's annual recurrent spending on foreign students over the last three years is estimated at about $154 million in the three publicly-funded universities and about $69 million in the five polytechnics.
 

makapaaa

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Re: CCB PAPee Ministers Receive Awesome Pension While on Million$ Pay. UTTERLY SHAMEL

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgF noWrap align=right width="1%">From: </TD><TD class=msgFname noWrap width="68%">Davidking <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate noWrap align=right width="30%">7:38 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT noWrap align=right width="1%" height=20>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname noWrap width="68%">InspectorLow <NOBR></NOBR>unread</TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (8 of 8) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft width="1%" rowSpan=4> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>20300.8 in reply to 20300.6 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Yes, $223 million EVERY YEAR, not just ONE year! >>
$223 million to these foreign bastards and $290 to our old folks. FRAK !!! .
PAP donesn't know who feeds them and bite the hands that put a tick mark into parliment.

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Mr Teo Chee Hean: As at 10th January 2008, there were 18,181 civil service pensioners receiving monthly pensions.
We do not usually capture pension data by interval segments, and have extracted the data by intervals of $1,000. If data is required in finer interval segments for a specific purpose, we will consider putting in the resources to extract and provide the data. The distribution of pensioners by monthly pension, in $1,000 intervals, is as follows:

Only 18181 records and they need resources to break down into smaller intervals? Everything is in the computer. A simple SQL query or some manipulations within excel will do.
 

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KNNCCB!!

nearly 200 million for fucking aliens to study here !

These PAP bastards are sick to core for confucianism!

KNN! A small angpow for Ong Kah Chua also cannot !

Ah Seng deserves the punishment !

KNNCCB old fart!![

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The Government's annual recurrent spending on foreign students over the last three years is estimated at about $154 million in the three publicly-funded universities and about $69 million in the five polytechnics.
 

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scholarships are awarded to foreign students like Singaporeans in many developed countries too!

but no so much lah...lol..

if they stay and contribute, it's okay, but if they leave and go to developed countries, singapore suffer lah.
 

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No wonder the ah neh programmers in the food court just now telling an ang mo that sinkie land is best to leech education money. Take scholarship (something link to SIA if I hear correct) then abscord. What they say if true is that the "sponsor" don't catch or cannot catch them!

Knn, gahmen better wake up!
 

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Think they r more confused than Confucian. The core of Confucian teaching is about cultivating oneself by staying courteous(reason for rites), restraint from greed, humility and setting examples. Its not just the mere acquisition of knowledge or the prized status of the educated. Its how to treat people with respect and honor.

One of the fundamental reasons why Cao Cao lost the Battle at Chibi was the death of Guo Jia, his trusted advisor. The role of advisors is crucial in every bureaucracy. In SG we have advisors with their heads amongst the clouds, publicizing holidays and calling the populace lesser mortals. Why are these people so out of touch with the populace? Its because our meritocracy has reached critical mass sometime ago and created fractions, which subsequently grew into a scholar caste. One of the wisest rulers, Emperor Kang Xi was very much focused on eliminating fractions in his government because he understood the dangers it posted and he was harsh on corrupt officials who let the sons of fellow officials win imperial examinations.

Our leaders are forsaking age old wisdom of 以民为本 ie to place the concerns of the populace first. Housing is no longer affordable if it breaks the nest eggs. It has become a horrible burden. Food, utilities and transport have become burdens as well thanks to the blinding focus on KPIs. PRs get lumped as Singaporeans when they can leave anytime without the need to defend this land. Who are our leaders running this place for? Unfortunately without a change in political leadership all is for nought. Trust in the government has been shattered. Like what Confucius told his student the trust of the populace in its government is prized above food and military resource.

There is only a small window for change and if we do not make it, once the global warming reaches the point of no return and the agricultural systems collapse, Singaporeans will be amongst the first to vanish.
 
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There is only a small window for change and if we do not make it, once the global warming reaches the point of no return and the agricultural systems collapse, Singaporeans will be amongst the first to vanish.

Good words ! when agriculture systems kaput, got big reserves also no use, HDB pigeon holes and walls cannot make Bak Kut teh, cannibalism will take place.
 

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Vote them out...Pui!!!
 

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KNNCCB!!

nearly 200 million for fucking aliens to study here !

These PAP bastards are sick to core for confucianism!

KNN! A small angpow for Ong Kah Chua also cannot !

Ah Seng deserves the punishment !

KNNCCB old fart!![

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Is Ong Kah Chua going to "ham kar charm" (whole family die already) same like you.......KNN you still alive har .....:oIo:
 

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hello comrade,

still alive lah, how are you ?

i ok , you ok?

hehehe....you miss me hor...

Is Ong Kah Chua going to "ham kar charm" (whole family die already) same like you.......KNN you still alive har .....:oIo:
 

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Now we fully understand why OTC wanted Singapore govt finance to be audited and brought to light. Unfortunately, SR Nathan was not the ideal candidate to take the role and is now pesting in Istana counting bucks.
 

tiulehloumoh

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hello comrade,

still alive lah, how are you ?

i ok , you ok?

hehehe....you miss me hor...

lan cheow, you ok, still soring about your land taken by the gov ..... that why you are here to kau peh cheng hu after a long time.........
Thought that you gone for good........:oIo:
 
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